"Now this is speculation"... and therein lies the biggest problem - why are we having to speculate? Fdev know what the mechanics are here, there's no reason to keep it secret, why not simply tell us? That's infuriating.
Elite Dangerous Exobiology Rank Threshold Rebalance Information
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Nah, I wouldn't be so sure of that. They obviously changed the payout with no clue what that would mean to the rank progression, then desperately followed up with the progression re-scale. That this produces all kinds of side-effects is not surprising. I think that they a) didn't really know what they wanted, b) didn't really know what they were doing and c) don't know how to fix it quickly. And this is why they are quiet now.
I think we will have to give them time to think it through and pick them up from the floor long enough to phrase a proper explanation. Don't forget that U14 was huge (for them), and therefore they are overwhelmed by all the new bugs they introduced with it.
Hmm, guess i will get back to the bubble tonight and sell what i got to see the rank progression on my xb migrated toon which is currently Directionless with 30% progression towards next rank and a codex entry claiming i got 6,810,000 out of Exobiology
That should clear some things about at least the first 4-5 ranks cause i think i'm standing on more than 1bn worth of salad
That should clear some things about at least the first 4-5 ranks cause i think i'm standing on more than 1bn worth of salad
The fact that you have an artificial title doesn't mean you actually have that still. If I have to re-earn it before I can advance, I don't really have it. As for why people would do it if they don't really enjoy the loop, because there are people who are completionists that want to have all the bars full and enjoy seeing the bar move. Now, not only did we lose TONs of hard earned progress, but we also have no movement at all for hundreds of hours more.
I don't think first-discovered bonus count towards rank progression. I think first discovered is 5x the basic value.
Inara shows two entries to your credits, 552M and 1342M. Lets divide 552 by 20 to get the old rank levels, that gives us 27.6M.
If you moved from Taxonimist 0% to 46% (0% to 100% is going from 65M to 125M). 46% of those values is... 27.6M.
This is very much my thought process and hope right now. They clearly screwed up and the less than 1 week hotfix shows that. The surprise from the community manager shows that the implications weren't really understood, and the reverting rank promotions shows it really wasn't thought through all the way. I strongly suspect they are taking a step back to look at it since nothing is horribly on fire in an unrecoverable way that won't be better for people than it is now, so there's no harm in making sure they get it right now.
At least that's what I would do if it was the product I am a developer on.
That indeed seems plausible. Are the non-first payouts approx. in the original region now, and only the first bonus is making the heap? If so, it basically means that exo-bio rank was nerfed really hard AND rank was stolen from players. That would be a complete no-go IMHO.
Please bear with me and my konfuzion. Prior to this rebalancing fiasco, I was ranked Elite V in exobiology. Post rebalancing, in game, I still appear to be ranked at Elite V.
Question: if I do any further exobiology, is it possible that I will lose rank due to some kind of recalculation?
Question: if I do any further exobiology, is it possible that I will lose rank due to some kind of recalculation?
It is possible indeed. At least 2 different people reported here on forums they were demoted
If a server side fix is possible, they will probably silently apply it and we never know. If it requires a client update, it will probably happen later on (or never for what is worth - apparently there are commanders that are not fussed at all about the demotion)
Because then they would be publishing information about undiscovered species? TBH there would be ways around it. Canonn are capturing the prices as they come in
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I was quite happily chasing an increase in Exobiology rank before the Thargoid invasion in patch 14. Up to that point it was extremely slow going but I'm an old guy and that's my style. Suddenly I shot from Geneticist to Elite II, I couldn't complain. Then I read in Galnet that the increase in payouts was part of the effort to improve R&D Anti-Xeno weaponry. Nothing more has been said (to my knowledge) but if Exobiology helps the war effort then I'm happy to continue, rank increase or not. I appreciated the enlightenment as to why my rank had stopped but, one day, I'm expecting to hear how the men and women in white lab coats have developed the ultimate anti-Thargoid weapon.
So other than bragging rights of having a higher rank, what does it really give you? There are no bonuses with higher ranks, no additional payouts, and no extra missions. Other than some stickers on your ship, what's the big deal? The same could be said with combat, mercenary, exploration, and trade ranks. Unless I'm missing something?
This is the level of expertise we all need.
It does also unlock some suit cosmetics.
You get suits and suit parts for various exo-bio and mercenary ranks, in contrast to traditional career paths. But that is not the point. The point is that people did rank progression BEFORE the whole fiasco, and now are demoted. Sure, you could say that ranks don't matter to you, but they sure do to others. It is really unfair to them to throw away their work and tell them to start from scratch for a mistake the developers did, don't you think? If thought about a bit harder, this could be solved in a much better way (as already proposed and outlined by many here).
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Can confirm that for first discovered I got a bonus of an additional 4x the discovery amount - example attached if anyone interested.
Those amounts quoted from Inara do not look like accurate measures of exobiology payouts to me - as I also handed in cartographic exploration data, and sold a number of high value commodities I had mined during the same session, in several trips, so it's hard to work out a breakdown from those (for me at least!) as Inara only shows 3 entries that presumably lump several transactions together (It shows a minus amount today - and I haven't done anything except log in and out!) - but, can't deny your figures add up in a way, but then again that assumes I was at exactly 0% taxonomist to begin with, which seems unlikely (surely I was more likely to be at some hidden% below that on a previous rank due to the rebalance)
The amounts I wrote down from my exobiology scans were 319.5 Million for scans, plus 1.555 Billion for first discovereds (and if the extra 4x doesn't count, then the discoveries themselves for that larger figure are just 311 million (1.555B/5), so that's 319.5 + 311 = 630.5million that counts to my ranking (if indeed the bonuses do not count
).Guess we just need to wait for clarification from Fdev... Hopefully they'll shine a light on this before too much longer...
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Yeah I get that Canonn are doing that but really? Why on earth isn’t it available to view? It’s strange that we play this game and so much of the info is unavailable and has to be gathered from offline sources.Because then they would be publishing information about undiscovered species? TBH there would be ways around it. Canonn are capturing the prices as they come in
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