Elite Dangerous Exobiology Rank Threshold Rebalance Information
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The amounts I wrote down from my exobiology scans were 319.5 Million for scans, plus 1.555 Billion for first discovereds (and if the extra 4x doesn't count, then the discoveries themselves for that larger figure are just 311 million (1.555B/5), so that's 319.5 + 311 = 630.5million that counts to my ranking (if indeed the bonuses do not count).
The first discovery bonus do counts to ranking
Here is my data from ranking tonight
Mostly directionless: 26,810,000 (5m last sale, >> ranking range: 21,810,000 - 26,810,000)
Compiler: 84,540,100 (last sale 2.3m >> ranking range: 82,140,000 - 84,540,100)
Collector: 223,178,100 (last sale 9.1m >> ranking range: 214,078,100 - 223,178,100)
Cataloguer: 534,486,700 (last sale 18.5m >> ranking range: 515,986,700 - 534,486,700)
Taxonomist: 1,232,331,900 (last sale 360m - yea, messed up badly this one, somehow i sold the entire page instead a single system
I would assume the Taxonomist ranking would have been like 1bn-1.1bn range, but i cant really tell
Currently it looks like 8% towards Ecologist
Yeap, somewhere around that value, but definitely not fixed along the range.
Anyway, that would put Elite to about 7 billions and Elite V to 23+ billions
That was my migrated XB account which started Exobiology after re-ranking
I got my Steam account to Elite with like 580 millions before the re-ranking and it seems that if i cash in to reach somewhere around 1bn (maybe 1.1), then i will get demoted to Taxonomist
The first discovery bonus do counts to ranking
Here is my data from ranking tonight
Mostly directionless: 26,810,000 (5m last sale, >> ranking range: 21,810,000 - 26,810,000)
Compiler: 84,540,100 (last sale 2.3m >> ranking range: 82,140,000 - 84,540,100)
Collector: 223,178,100 (last sale 9.1m >> ranking range: 214,078,100 - 223,178,100)
Cataloguer: 534,486,700 (last sale 18.5m >> ranking range: 515,986,700 - 534,486,700)
Taxonomist: 1,232,331,900 (last sale 360m - yea, messed up badly this one, somehow i sold the entire page instead a single system
I would assume the Taxonomist ranking would have been like 1bn-1.1bn range, but i cant really tell
Currently it looks like 8% towards Ecologist
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CRAP...
These are the numbers from codex and the numbers i got on the screen when i sold stuff
I have not checked the actual credits gained and i completely forgot about my SLF crew that got 10% out of it
So even if the Codex is saying I got 1,232 millions, Inara is reporting that i only got like 1.1bn. Still this doesn't change much the numbers, still seems to be around 15-16x as multiplier
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I wonder what Sally meant in her message that states so clearly that we have not lost progression?
forums.frontier.co.uk
Silence on this so far.
Elite Dangerous Exobiology Rank "Reset" Concerns
Greetings Commanders. Thank you so much to those of you awaiting further clarity on this today. Following the deployment of Update 14.01 yesterday, there have been reports of Exobiologists having their current rank progress prior to the release, reverting to 0%. Naturally this is causing...
Silence on this so far.
agree, I would have thought something would be posted, at least a "... we are still analyzing the issue" We lost progression in the rank and have lost rank (although it is hidden from us)I wonder what Sally meant in her message that states so clearly that we have not lost progression?
Elite Dangerous Exobiology Rank "Reset" Concerns
Greetings Commanders. Thank you so much to those of you awaiting further clarity on this today. Following the deployment of Update 14.01 yesterday, there have been reports of Exobiologists having their current rank progress prior to the release, reverting to 0%. Naturally this is causing...
Silence on this so far.
Ok, I have a theory on what FDev did.
1) They increased rewards 20 fold.
2) The increased rank requirements 16 fold (making it a bit easier to level up)
3) They increased the rank earned before 14.01 by a factor of 7, the difference between 16 and 7 is why we are seeing demotions.
I was on Elite II 50% (980M) which puts me on 5.39B (non-credit value). Which would make me now Geneticist 54%.
Someone who had legit done Elite V pre-upgrade 14 are now Elite I. If this is true, then that is harsh.
1) They increased rewards 20 fold.
2) The increased rank requirements 16 fold (making it a bit easier to level up)
3) They increased the rank earned before 14.01 by a factor of 7, the difference between 16 and 7 is why we are seeing demotions.
I was on Elite II 50% (980M) which puts me on 5.39B (non-credit value). Which would make me now Geneticist 54%.
Someone who had legit done Elite V pre-upgrade 14 are now Elite I. If this is true, then that is harsh.
RANK | PRE UPGRADE 14 | PRE 14.01 VALUES BOOSTED 700% | POST 14.01 NEW RANKS RAISED 1600% |
Directionless | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Mostly Directionless | 1,500,000 | 10,500,000 | 24,000,000 |
Compiler | 5,300,000 | 37,100,000 | 84,800,000 |
Collector | 12,800,000 | 89,600,000 | 204,800,000 |
Cataloguer | 32,000,000 | 224,000,000 | 512,000,000 |
Taxonomist | 65,000,000 | 455,000,000 | 1,040,000,000 |
Ecologist | 125,700,000 | 879,900,000 | 2,011,200,000 |
Geneticist | 216,000,000 | 1,512,000,000 | 3,456,000,000 |
Elite | 440,000,000 | 3,080,000,000 | 7,040,000,000 |
Elite I | 660,000,000 | 4,620,000,000 | 10,560,000,000 |
Elite II | 880,000,000 | 6,160,000,000 | 14,080,000,000 |
Elite III | 1,100,000,000 | 7,700,000,000 | 17,600,000,000 |
Elite IV | 1,320,000,000 | 9,240,000,000 | 21,120,000,000 |
Elite V | 1,540,000,000 | 10,780,000,000 | 24,640,000,000 |
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even worse from Elite to Collector (plus x%), that's a loss of 5 ranks and from Elite to Ecologist (plus x%) would be a loss of 2 ranks if the 'PRE 14.01 VALUES BOOSTED 700%' is actually implemented but we don't know that this is the case. The increased rank requirements are too high, and the pre-upgrade 14 boosts are too low. Obviously to mitigate harshness this needs to be adjusted accordingly so that the time spent by commanders to achieve a certain rank pre-upgrade 14 are not demoted in their rank due to events over which they had no control.
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If anything, this Exobiology debacle once again proves one thing: they don't play the game.
Heck, they don't even test the changes they make. How else could you explain that they were oh so surprised in the livestream about the new payouts? How could they not know how the new payouts would affect the ranks/progression? How could they have rolled out a patch that would supposedly fix the issue, only to royally screw it up even further?
7 billion for plain Elite? Are you kidding me? That's seven times the requirement for Trader Elite.
I honestly hope this is wrong.
CRAP...
These are the numbers from codex and the numbers i got on the screen when i sold stuff
I have not checked the actual credits gained and i completely forgot about my SLF crew that got 10% out of it
So even if the Codex is saying I got 1,232 millions, Inara is reporting that i only got like 1.1bn. Still this doesn't change much the numbers, still seems to be around 15-16x as multiplier
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Looking back at my numbers and deducting the 10% SLF crew tax, it looks more like an 15x average increase
Cataloguer: 534m -10%, that's 480.6m, 32*15 = 480m (about 15x or a bit under)
Collector" 214-223m range, that's 192.6-200.7 range, 12.8*15 = 192m (so a little bit over 15x)
Hi @sallymorganmoore please can FDEV clarify all of this for us? The speculation is painful.
looking at todays Discovery Scanner article (https://www.elitedangerous.com/en-us/news/discovery-scanner-12122022), it simply points to this forum for answers indicating the developer note (from Thursday). That developer note clearly indicates they do not understand how much they messed up Exo ranks for people. We lost both progression and rank and FDev said we did not. They don't get it.
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day late, dollar short... I need to figure out how to let this go.... I was so close to Elite... lost it all
Inara ranks provide some measure of PVE competition.
What makes you think they increased pre 14.01 values?
If they just increased the rank limit 16 fold then Elite V would become Taxonomist, which would be mad. So it stands to reason that they remodelled the old values.
Players new to Exiology appear to be on a 16 fold rank increase (which based on a 20 fold reward increase has made the grind 20% easier), but those who already had ranks have been demoted at a level which appear to be running on a 7 fold increase to their existing levels (so about a 2/3 reduction).
Because FDev are using credits as the value they can't just give people billions of credits, so they are probably using a multiplier behind the scenes to effectively punish those of us who gained ranks quickly between update 14 and 14.01. So they picked a number between 1 and 16 and appear to have selected 7.
This is all theory-crafting based on the limit data-sets provided so far. I'm not making any statements of fact, just sharing models that match the data being presented.
Based on this post it looks like Frontier haven't yet been able to decide what to do to the exobiologist ranks of old players:
forums.frontier.co.uk
I think I should give some game time to my secondary CMDR, because he has not started his exobiologist career yet, and now is the best time to start!
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I think I should give some game time to my secondary CMDR, because he has not started his exobiologist career yet, and now is the best time to start!