No Single Player offline Mode then?

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It's been an online game for the past months and we all had fun playing it, right?

Except those who couldn't, gave up, were waiting for their DRM free boxed copy, yeah. Anyone who has been around the forum knows about the concern about the upcoming release from players who the online modes clearly aren't working for. Those guys did not go anywhere.
 
uhm that was kind of his point, not mine. I was just showing him that whether or not it is a MMO.... it does require a persistant online connection, which is DRM regardless of whether you are a MMO or not.

i fully agree with you, it was to further counter their nonsensical arguments about this game being made primarly online only
 
Oh please forgive the vast majority for daring to criticize a blatently devious move by a company - the developers have done a great thing, but I don't think many of us have issue with the devs, but the business decisions being made suddenly.

Positivity is earned.

I dont think the vast majority as you put, are worried, i do not see any "blatently devious" move either, it seems to me it was technical reason for the decision, but as neither of us are on the FD team we cannot say for certain.
 
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OK. Point. If we're going to be pedantic. :) I'm old skool - you have single player and multi player. Single player games have no justification for being online in my book :p :).

[FWIW. I'm still not sold on why single player online exists anyway. If you're going to play multiplayer, play multiplayer, if not, don't. Swapping between the two is pretty tantamount to cheating (again in my book) - but that's another argument that's been done to death :) ].

It's a good book. I also have a copy. ;)
 
so halo is a mmo? 16 players max dude...no grouping...

M M O

MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE

WHERE'S MASSIVE IN ELITE?

Does Halo have a dynamic economy?
Does Halo have a persistent (massive) gameworld that changes based on players actions?

Also comparing games like Battlefield/CoD and Halo that plays out on deathmatch maps to a game like Elite is ridiculous. Yes, each instance could be defined as a "map", but all of the gameworld is connected together consistently in a bigger picture that is not seen in these other games.

It's not a pure MMO of course...more like a hybrid.
 
Completely agree with the wiki'd questions about titles such as Sim City 3 (or even Diablo 3), but that wasn't my point really - and you do know that :) My point was about online-multiplayer games, designed to be online and, well, multiplayer... That's not DRM.

I am perfectly capable of reading articles, you know :)

DRM stands for Digital Rights Management. Simply put, it is a way to prevent people from utilizing a program in ways not intended by the creators, such as pirating the program, or fiddling with its internal workings. A client server system with authentication definitely fulfills this by, at the very least, disallowing more than one simultaneous usage of a single account. The determining factor is not whether a component is necessary for the intended experience, but whether it helps prevent tampering with the program. So really, any program with online features, and some method of authentication, which is pretty much anything with online features, has DRM. However, the issue people take from DRM is that it hampers the intended experience of legitimate users in attempts to protect the creators' data. In cases where a program could function as intended just fine without online authentication, forcing such a thing is pretty terrible DRM for the user, but in cases where it couldn't function without online authentication, it is still DRM, but not really bad DRM.
 
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Oh woe is me, woe is me, how about being positive and praising FD for what they have done

Yes. You are right. Thanks Frontier! Both Frontier and First Encounters were ground-breaking, wonderful games! Thank you for those. :) (Sorry, couldn't resist).

Does Halo have a dynamic economy?
Does Halo have a persistent (massive) gameworld that changes based on players actions?

Does E: D? We haven't seen much evidence of that in action, except for tweaks around product availability and stock regeneration rates.
 
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Galaxy collision models do not a game make.

Here, instead we have a simulation of 400b stars - even within the 2000 odd systems we have that's a lot of computing power to process all the stars, planets and other bodies - their orbits and trajectories, let alone all the NPCs that inhabit them

All of this is done locally on your PC. Load up a tutorial miaaion, unplug your internet then go onto suoercruise. All orbits are there. Jump to another system, everything is generated on your PC without an Internet connection and it still all works. Fly around for an hour, watch the planets orbit. It all works.

No Internet, all local. And in Beta 3.
 
Word search not finding "mmo" on that page.

sigh...
The galaxy is yours

Elite: Dangerous is the spectacular new sequel in the Elite series of games.

Head for the stars, take a ship and trade, bounty-hunt, pirate or assassinate your way across the galaxy in this massively multiplayer online space adventure

It's an awe inspiring, beautiful, vast place; with 400 billion star systems, planets, moons and asteroid fields just waiting to be explored and exploited.

New to Elite: Dangerous?

Take a look at our Quick Start Guide

Why not join the thousands of people who are already playing Elite: Dangerous and dive into the greatest multiplayer space adventure game ever created.

Beta OUT NOW
 
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