Painite in the Asp indeed!

(On the title, as the PlayStation trophy says πŸ˜€πŸ€˜)...

I'm currently trying to unlock the engineer Selene Jean, who as you may or may not know, has some of the most Grindy/painful unlock requirements in the game!

Firstly she requires you to mine 500 units of any material, which isn't so bad in itself, it just takes you a week or more of starring at and shooting rocks, which isn't my idea of fun, but the worst part is that she wants 10 units of mined painite, which is extremely hard to find and extremely subject to the whims of RNJeses!! πŸ˜―πŸ˜‚πŸ©² ...

Of course then even when you find places online where other people have found it, it's mostly in RES sites where you near constantly get harassed by pirates...

As a slight tangent, it really annoys me how general pirate attacks and mechanics work in this game, particularly when you're carrying cargo, as you do when you go mining...

Firstly the fact that the local police and bounty hunters don't attack known pirates until they start shooting at you (and others), while even why known pirates scan you, your ship doesn't automatically target them until they start shooting at you (and even then, only if you press "target nearest enemy"), but in particular how incesint their attacks can be even when surrounded by police and bounty hunters, no matter the local security level or how they attack ships they have no hope of defeating....

However the worst thing, in particular when you're carrying important cargo is how bloody hatchbreaker limpets work and how little defence we have against them!

I wouldn't even mind THAT much if they worked the way they currently do IF they didn't pass right through your shields (no matter how strong they are and their percentage!), IF they were pirates "reward" for bringing down your shields, it would be one thing, but they're very o.p. and unfair!

However the Devs clearly didn't stop them targetting the rarest, most valuable cargo, when players won't want to lose the most (while indeed we can't put our most valuable cargo in a special lockbox, that can't say only be accessed without destroying our ships), as when I was mining I had two pieces of painite stolen by bloody pirates - one which really annoyed me, when when I managed to destroy the pirate that launched it and it was left floating in space, however before I could pick it up again, ANOTHER pirate sucked it into their cargo hold and though I managed to destroy the second pirate afterwards, they didn't drop the stolen painite, only some other random things! πŸ˜―πŸ˜‚πŸ©² ...

Anyway, it seems like blind luck how much painite you get from any one astroid, though generally you get a painfully small amount and generally far less than any other mineral!

For example, from around ten painite containing astroids, I got 2.6 units of it, compared to about 100 units of our minerals, however then today, when I was back down to only the .6 units after the two full units were stolen from me, RNJesus suddenly smiled on me and gave me 9 units from one single asteroid!

BUT then I didn't find any more painite in the next ten asteroids I tried, before it was getting too late and I'd to finish my session...

Which is where it's left me now, nearly there on both requirements, currently 470 units of any material mined overall and 9 units of painite in my cargo hold, creeping around the edge of the RES site, to try to get the last bloody unit, while trying to avoid the horrible hatchbreaker pirates, that could send me back to square one!

As said, give how hard and painful it is to get painite, I wish the Devs could have programmed pirates not to steal it at least and give us more ways protect particularly valuable cargo, such as the aforementioned painite or mission related cargo.

(Indeed some people online said that they found painite outside of RES sites, but I never did, hitting my current motherboard in the low RES site of Delkar 7A!)

Anyway happy mining everybody! πŸ˜―πŸ˜€πŸ€˜ .
 
What kind of ship and equipment are you using? I mean, in a mining Cutter, 500 tons of anything is definitely less than two hours...
And even without a Cutter - keep in mind that the requirement only states "mined", not "sold". So if you're simply grinding for access to Selene, fill the hold with anything that comes in front of your lasers, then dump the lot once that hold is full, repeat until you run out of limpets. No, Selene is definitely one of the easier unlocks. Wait until Bill Turner...

Regarding the Painite - whoever recommended you mine that in a RES either had no idea themselves or was pulling your leg. You know this site: https://edtools.cc/miner ? You need a DSS to find the overlapping hotspots (and need at least a rough idea about what you're doing: you laser mine Painite in a - preferrably pristine - metallic ring).
 
Something must've changed in the intervening years since I mined my 10 tons. :unsure:
Had no trouble finding Painite back then.
Well now it's like pulling teeth and indeed you'll see countless posts online about people searching for it, sometimes mining 1000+ units trying to find the required 10 units of painite - as said, by blind luck I stumbled upon near all I needed in one asteroid last night (which I'll hopefully be able to keep!), when it took me the best part of a week searching for it in supposed "double hotspots", finding 2.6 units of it before I found as said 9 in Delkar last night! 😯🩲 ...

Maybe I'll try the RES with no rating or maybe just maybe find painite outside a RES tonight, but I mined over 100 units outside a RES finding nothing, but then went to the RES next to me and started finding painite, but it was VERY slow until last night and I'm not finished yet! πŸ˜€πŸ€˜ .
 
What kind of ship and equipment are you using? I mean, in a mining Cutter, 500 tons of anything is definitely less than two hours...
And even without a Cutter - keep in mind that the requirement only states "mined", not "sold". So if you're simply grinding for access to Selene, fill the hold with anything that comes in front of your lasers, then dump the lot once that hold is full, repeat until you run out of limpets. No, Selene is definitely one of the easier unlocks. Wait until Bill Turner...

Regarding the Painite - whoever recommended you mine that in a RES either had no idea themselves or was pulling your leg. You know this site: https://edtools.cc/miner ? You need a DSS to find the overlapping hotspots (and need at least a rough idea about what you're doing: you laser mine Painite in a - preferrably pristine - metallic ring).
I'm flying a pretty well kitted out Anaconda, however when I tried using many of the mining tools, I didn't have much luck...

The pulse wave scanner seems to do nothing, while I couldn't split an asteroid with the deep core tool, while the likes of the abrasion blaster seemed pointless too...

I've been doing the best using prospector limpets, mining lasers and collector limpets, while indeed finding lots of other valuable materials, just very little painite - I saw about ten people say they only found it in RES sites, which is the only place I found any myself! πŸ˜―πŸ©²πŸ˜€πŸ€˜ .
 
Don't remember anymore, so did a bit googling, you need to be in Metallic rings for laser mining Painite, in Metal rich rings only core mining works.
I'd go outside of bubble to pristine rings. Dispatch or wait out the pirates and then get my stuff.
 
Don't remember anymore, so did a bit googling, you need to be in Metallic rings for laser mining Painite, in Metal rich rings only core mining works.
I'd go outside of bubble to pristine rings. Dispatch or wait out the pirates and then get my stuff.
As much as I try to shoot the pirates, more keep coming, while I'd gladly take on 100 pirates if many didn't have those bloody hatchbreaker limpets, indeed both time I lost a painite unit to them, I had around 100 other units of ore, but of course it was the painite that was stolen...

People suggested if you fly about 30km out from the RES starting point, you'll still find painite, but not be harassed by pirates, but it seems to me, if you fly further out, you lose both the pirates and the painite! πŸ˜―πŸ˜‚πŸ©²πŸ˜€πŸ€˜ .
 
1. mine 500 t of (near worthless) stuff to unlock Selene...
2. go for 10 t of Painite in any metallic ring...
3. iIrc you can drop the Painite in smaller batches to Selene if needed to empty your hold...
 
1. mine 500 t of (near worthless) stuff to unlock Selene...
2. go for 10 t of Painite in any metallic ring...
3. iIrc you can drop the Painite in smaller batches to Selene if needed to empty your hold...
Well as said, I should get it done tonight IF RNJesus is kind to me!! πŸ˜―πŸ˜‚πŸ©²...

But it's good advice for everyone else! πŸ˜€πŸ€˜ .
 
As much as I try to shoot the pirates, more keep coming, while I'd gladly take on 100 pirates if many didn't have those bloody hatchbreaker limpets, indeed both time I lost a painite unit to them, I had around 100 other units of ore, but of course it was the painite that was stolen...

People suggested if you fly about 30km out from the RES starting point, you'll still find painite, but not be harassed by pirates, but it seems to me, if you fly further out, you lose both the pirates and the painite! πŸ˜―πŸ˜‚πŸ©²πŸ˜€πŸ€˜ .
Like I said, I'd forget about RES sites, and find myself a nice uninhabited system somewhere with pristine rings. Unless that's also changed lately, you should have a good long pirate free stint after dispatching the first ones there. Don't know if hotspots help or hinder you, have seen lots of contradicting chatter about those... :D
 
Don't know if hotspots help or hinder you, have seen lots of contradicting chatter about those... :D
Main issues with Painite hotspots seem to be:
  • people expect more of them than they actually deliver
  • you get hotspots for Painite in both metallic and metal rich rings. However, in metallic rings, you need to use laser mining, in metal rich rings you need to use core mining (with all that follows from that - PWA included). Now if you find a nice Painite hotspot somewhere, start prospecting for laser mining and then complain 200 asteroids later that there is not an ounce of Painite to be found in that hotspot... in most cases it turns out you were in a metal rich ring...
 
For metallic rings its the first TINY small rings on planets and that's very, very key if your landing far from the planet and have not crossed the big empty space of the rings that divides the rings you wont be entering a metallic ring...
Ring A is the metallic ring and it's the closest to the plant ring.... Ring B is not metallic only Ring A....

Arrive with nothing but limpets in cargo rack pirates will ignore you after scan... and smeg off every time to look at someone else... so when mining in the ring you only get one batch of pirates which scan an empty hold and then you are left alone to mine the hole ring... for 10 tons of painite...
 
Against hatch breaker limpets a point defence on the underside of the ship and rapid spinning helps. But better not to have anything but limpets in the hold for when scanned initially.

Steve.
 
First thing, when unlocking Selene Jean, is to not try to take short-cuts.

You might think the best way to unlock her is to toddle off to a Painite hotspot and just mine 500 units of stuff, including Painite, and then just take the Painite to SJ.
Trouble is, carrying Painite will attract pirates and you'll either have to fight to keep it or you'll have to dump it... thus meaning you'll only have to mine more for SJ.

The simplest way to go about it is to head for some random ring and just mine any old garbage until you hit the 500t threshold.
You don't have to keep it or sell it. Just mine, dump, rinse and repeat.
If, during this phase of the operation, you mine anything valuable, haul it straight to a station and sell it and then continue mining in the nearest ring.
Once you've mined your 500t, then head to a pristine metallic ring and look for a Painite hotspot where you can be picky about what you mine, gather 10t of Painite and deliver it to SJ with minimal risk of attack.
 
Like I said, I'd forget about RES sites, and find myself a nice uninhabited system somewhere with pristine rings. Unless that's also changed lately, you should have a good long pirate free stint after dispatching the first ones there.
No need even for a fight. Let them scan you at the start when you have nothing in your hold but limpets. Eventually they will wake out, leaving you to mine free of hassle. After their first scan you can move out of range of them anyway, even before they leave.
 
No need even for a fight. Let them scan you at the start when you have nothing in your hold but limpets. Eventually they will wake out, leaving you to mine free of hassle. After their first scan you can move out of range of them anyway, even before they leave.
I know they'll leave you alone if you've nothing in your hold, which won't be the case if you're mining and in particular if you have stuff that you want to keep - I'll gladly blow away every pirate in existence and I often do, but the biggest problem is when you're targeted by a wing or two and one silly little eagle or sidewinder launches hatchbreaker limpets which often steal some of your cargo before you can even find and target them, which can be doubly annoying if they're carrying the module that makes your weapons lose tracking (which you can't counter or engineer resistances against!)...

Then even when you manage to destroy the little twirp that launched the hatchbreakers, another pirate can pick up your cargo before you can and even when you destroy them, you often can't get your cargo back!!

All in, it's a vicious circle! πŸ˜―πŸ˜‚πŸ©²πŸ˜€ .
 
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First thing, when unlocking Selene Jean, is to not try to take short-cuts.

You might think the best way to unlock her is to toddle off to a Painite hotspot and just mine 500 units of stuff, including Painite, and then just take the Painite to SJ.
Trouble is, carrying Painite will attract pirates and you'll either have to fight to keep it or you'll have to dump it... thus meaning you'll only have to mine more for SJ.

The simplest way to go about it is to head for some random ring and just mine any old garbage until you hit the 500t threshold.
You don't have to keep it or sell it. Just mine, dump, rinse and repeat.
If, during this phase of the operation, you mine anything valuable, haul it straight to a station and sell it and then continue mining in the nearest ring.
Once you've mined your 500t, then head to a pristine metallic ring and look for a Painite hotspot where you can be picky about what you mine, gather 10t of Painite and deliver it to SJ with minimal risk of attack.
Well as said, I've nearly got enough and hopefully I'll be able to keep it, but no matter the pirates are a pain in the Asp!! πŸ˜―πŸ˜‚πŸ©²πŸ˜€πŸ€˜ .
 
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However the worst thing, in particular when you're carrying important cargo is how bloody hatchbreaker limpets work and how little defence we have against them!

I wouldn't even mind THAT much if they worked the way they currently do IF they didn't pass right through your shields (no matter how strong they are and their percentage!), IF they were pirates "reward" for bringing down your shields, it would be one thing, but they're very o.p. and unfair!
two ECM fired cyclically render you immune to hatch breakers, and even one gets you pretty close. Travel time for the limpet plus hack time is greater than 10 seconds for most controllers and greater than 5 seconds for all controllers.
 
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