I was reading about the Ammonia World CG they just started, it sucks we have to turn in the data at a specific mega ship in the bubble to get credit for the Ammonia Worlds we discover. Otherwise, we'll get the standard credit out here in the black, aint fair.
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Actually, it isn't. The money is in the first to logs with Vista on each planet or moon you land on with a first footfall, so doesn't matter how many duplicates you get after you've already got the Codex's, each duplicate you find afterwards will get you that hefty first to log Vista bonus for every duplicate plant. That's why, in this system I found with 70 bios, even though I've already got some Codex's on this first moon, I'll still go after any duplicates on all the other moons.
(Providing I can stand the pace, that is.
) The Conchas here are only to be found in a tiny bit of blue and I had to go around the other side of this moon to find them. I wonder how much salad there is in all those systems up there in the sky and how much it's all worth?
I disagree, I don't have time to track down every biosign. I'm in an Anaconda not a Fleet Carrier that can bomb around at 500 Ly a pop, I get a lot more codex's making shorter jumps by not skipping over whole regions, a codex is first discovery in a region/sector or whatever the correct terminology is. Here's one of my pages with a huge codex bonus that's significantly more than finding it.Actually, it isn't. The money is in the first to logs with Vista on each planet or moon you land on with a first footfall, so doesn't matter how many duplicates you get after you've already got the Codex's, each duplicate you find afterwards will get you that hefty first to log Vista bonus for every duplicate plant. That's why, in this system I found with 70 bios, even though I've already got some Codex's on this first moon, I'll still go after any duplicates on all the other moons.
(Providing I can stand the pace, that is.
The Conchas here are only to be found in a tiny bit of blue and I had to go arou nd the other side of this moon to find them. I wonder how much salad there is in all those systems up there in the sky and how much it's all worth?
But those are not Codex bonuses - they are the First to Log with Vista bonuses I was talking about. You'll still get those bonuses without any Codex's at all, providing you're the first commander to find a plant on a body, (which will usually mean first footfall) even if it's a duplicate of a plant on another body in the same system.
I'm currently just over 19,000 LY from Sol on this trip and my Codex total so far is still only about 900k, as shown in Transactions in the L/H panel. (I don't have Redemption on my carrier so can't cash that in with Pilots Federation until I reach a station somewhere.)
I was under the impression that what's shown in my screen shot is the original discovery and the bonus is the new CG bonus (temporary until the Thargoid war is over). When I handed everything in at the last carrier, it showed the Vista discoveries first then those bonus pages came up after my discoveries were logged. I haven't been to a station in a very long time.
Billion and billions of cabbages worth...I wonder how much salad there is in all those systems up there in the sky and how much it's all worth?
The bonus is for first discovery of each type of bio on each individual body, AFAIK.
You only get the codex once per large division of the galaxy, the name of which eludes me atm...also, AFAIK.
The way I had it explained to me (see, shifting blame here
) is the original amount for codex you can see in your left hand panel under transactions. My screen shot is from the CG codex plus the bonus, once found in a region, there are planetary and regional bonuses? Right? Which one is worth the most? Jeez, I confused myself now.I gotta feed the dogs and cat before I get in trouble.
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Okay, dogs and cat are feed, their purring, snorting and licking their privates. Anyway, all that matters is that were having fun doing what we're doing, it's just a game right (I know, blasphemy)? So bugbait, keep doing what you're doing as long as you enjoy what your doing, endeavor to persevere.
The screenshot you posted is one page of your payouts from Vista Genomics, and shows on one line what they pay for finding that item, the second line is the bonus for being the first to find that item on that planet.The way I had it explained to me (see, shifting blame here
I gotta feed the dogs and cat before I get in trouble.
Your Codex payments which flash up briefly when you scan something are summed up on your Transactions screen when in your cockpit or SRV and when you cash them in with the station (etc) Contacts where you cash in all the bounties you have claimed.
Your other exploration data is of course shown on the Cartographics screens which is yet a third location but like Codex can be accessed from your cockpit.
A Community Goal has just launched for Astro data that will pay above the odds and will also enable people to get boosted payments for a while afterwards!
I was referring to the Vista payouts due to a CG that started after the Thargoids invaded where they are after a bioweapon to use against them, not the Ammonia world CG that just started today (my time). I am assuming this war will end thus the huge payouts in Vista will end and I do know the difference between Vista and Cartographics. Everything you mentioned I (we) already know, the question is are their larger secondary codex bonus's.
The Vista payments are part of an unfortunate sequence of attempts to balance the very slow ranking in exobiology, they first increased the payments (too much) and lots of people reached EliteV in no time at all then they reset the financial thresholds that trigger rank increase so progress is now slightly more sane. Things would be much easier for FDev if the ranking process was more like combat and not based on credits.
If they do reduce the Vista payments they will have to again change the thresholds.
From what I have seen flash up there are larger Codex payments for first discoveries but I don’t recall seeing anywhere that lists what the breakdown of your Codex payments were for just a running total.
I haven't found something that's first ever for a galactic region, so I don't know how much Codex is for that.
For any variant new to you in that region, you get 50,000 Cr Codex payment, each scan after that giving 2,500 Cr.
Where the money is, is bioscanning the same species (even same variants) over and over again, as long as you only do one set of 3 samples of a particular plant on one body (which is a given, as the game won't let you scan same plant twice on a single body). Then you get the base value + 4*base 1st scan bonus each time. That's Vista Genomics money, not codex.
Those bonuses have nothing to do with the current (or any other) community Goal.
For any variant new to you in that region, you get 50,000 Cr Codex payment, each scan after that giving 2,500 Cr.
Where the money is, is bioscanning the same species (even same variants) over and over again, as long as you only do one set of 3 samples of a particular plant on one body (which is a given, as the game won't let you scan same plant twice on a single body). Then you get the base value + 4*base 1st scan bonus each time. That's Vista Genomics money, not codex.
Those bonuses have nothing to do with the current (or any other) community Goal.
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Nope, has nothing to do with the CG.
Those are 'first logged' bonuses, and you get them for any bio you scan that hasn't been scanned on that planet before,. So, you're leaving a lot of stuff behind. Codex entries pay squat, 50,000 credits for the first time you see a bio in the ENTIRE SECTOR. The first-logged bonuses are per-planet, so very easy to get.
That recepta I got just netted me 57mCR alone
Not quite to @0threeleven quantities but not bad for a mini-excurions:
I just can't do endless hours of exo in one go - I have to break things up - even if the payout is, honestly, quite incredible!
Not quite to @0threeleven quantities but not bad for a mini-excurions:
I just can't do endless hours of exo in one go - I have to break things up - even if the payout is, honestly, quite incredible!
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Not quite to @0threeleven quantities but not bad for a mini-excurions:
I just can't do endless hours of exo in one go - I have to break things up - even if the payout is, honestly, quite incredible!
About 71m if you include the base pay too ;]
Exo pay can be quite variable - from ambling about & searching too much (never did find those Frutexa and Cactoids or enough of the Fungoida Impossible-to-reach) over about 2hrs i returned with this, 3/6 bio scan data:
Went back after lunch and got these done on the next planet in under half an hour, all 4/4 in one location and around 500m from the ship:
...so yep, just in terms of sheer cash income, it pays to go back sometimes - even for the same species in a system, as long as it is first scan of that species - both Stratum Tectonicas (Turquoise) payed 18m + 76m in bonuses ...as i also found some other things that eluded me before, it did feel more like exploration/discovery than grind too :]
Both of these planets were 1st footfalls, though as long as the species has not been scanned/submitted to Vista before, it should pay the discovery bonus...
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There's no way, even with a small army, would I scan every bio in a system, it's already too much like a grind and everybody complains about that. As for me calling that a CG, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..... I called it that for lack of a better word and don't think I need to defend it, symantics be damned, they are doing it through Cartographics, why not vista? It's like water on that ducks back (to me anyway).
I think of myself as an explorer, that means system after system, planets and bios, just because there' a crapton of money involved, that part of human nature rears it's ugly head (as is the case in-game or real life). People will always be people, it's always good to have enough to pay the bills, but to become obsessed with how many credits I can amass isn't my style. This isn't pride, just my style. But hey, like I said a few posts back, everyone has their own style and there is nothing wrong with that.
I'm pretty sure there are people out there who somehow managed to optimize the heck out of this to earn enough money in one month to buy and equip all ships in the game with highest possible grade internals, buy every suit and weapon, buy and equip a fleet carrier with everything available and still have enough money left for upkeep and tritium for an entire year. I doubt this is really fun what they are doing there, but to each their own...
I had my FC & most of current fleet by the time OD arrived, so Exobiology felt a bit like an idle billionaire farting about, much as it was nice to discover & see the new bio types. Have been happy to see the payouts increased quite generously, as it makes ExoBio something that contributes meaningfully to in-game career & progress, as well as being good icing on the exploration cake - now if they could just improve the pay for the cake itself...^
I resisted the temptation to rank out in a week when the first adjustment hit, though did complete Geneticist (was almost there anyway) & Elite - gratified to see my progress advancing (just) noticeably once again… this was with about 260m** banked today, so the required data to complete Elite I must be at least 3-4 billion now?
*All in all this feels a bit more like the progress bar up to Geneticist than even from there to Elite - so i'm very roughly guessing that the combined increase in payouts & rank requirements is resulting in progress that's still 2 to 4x faster than it was originally, since launch - i wonder what it'll be like after the current ExoBio war-boost is over?
**260m, plus about 4m in system data en route, less about 18m in FC upkeep paid this AM - thought the vista clerk had been padding her pockets for a moment there…
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