I have played Frontier: First Encounters off and on since I first bought it on release for my pc. I still have the box and everything. Not all games age poorly, even 3d ones. And you kind of invalidated your comment by saying you'd go back to Quest for Glory eventually, which is a great series (apart from the 5th one which was horrid).
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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I have played Frontier: First Encounters off and on since I first bought it on release for my pc. I still have the box and everything. Not all games age poorly, even 3d ones. And you kind of invalidated your comment by saying you'd go back to Quest for Glory eventually, which is a great series (apart from the 5th one which was horrid).
Just got back from the shops! What did I miss? Have we had a group hug yet?
Not likely. If Offline were to be re-announced to return down the road...maybe.
You backed your argument with one example and because a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft pulled it off, therefore you trust FD?
I have absolutely no comprehension of how one relates to the other and I am not even sure you read my post, but if you trust FD then I am not one to stand in the way of your faith.
I told a friend I think they dropped offline mode to stop piracy.
Now he's been telling me with it being online only it will be hacked the instant it launches and within days it'll be flooded with fake credits and DDoS will take the servers down etc etc. tbh listening to him really got me concerned now.
I hope offline play is reinstated just to combat this sort of thing killing the game.
Now he's been telling me with it being online only it will be hacked the instant it launches and within days it'll be flooded with fake credits and DDoS will take the servers down etc etc. tbh listening to him really got me concerned now.
I hope offline play is reinstated just to combat this sort of thing killing the game.
Unlikely, More likely to rely on Paintjobs in the store and £/$ for Cr.
Be more worried about the servers falling apart upon release as the swarm of people begin playing.
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Just got back from the shops! What did I miss? Have we had a group hug yet?
Coomon Boy and Girls.....Lets a make a BIG HUGGING...and than Take out the Knifes again........otherwise we get another 15 Minutes Break from the mods
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This is very much to the point. Thanks at least in part to FD's obfuscating newsletter, some won't find out about the omission of the offline mode that they were looking forward to until actual release. How many? I don't know. But I do think FD seriously need to reappraise their handling of this issue or I wouldn't want to be in their shoes come December.
I do hope that David Braben and the Executive team will give careful reconsideration to including some iteration of an offline mode, given the strength of dissatisfaction and the divisive effect it's having on its customers. Before any expansion packs, would be favourite for me.
That being said, I don't hold with all these public declarations of pursuing refunds with the inferred intention to damage the game's future. Why attempt to destroy something you say you love? Its like burning down an entire hotel with all the other guests still in it because you didn't like the room service...then realising you don't have anywhere else to stay. And before you say it, I don't fancy checking into the motel across the pond.
That being said, I don't hold with all these public declarations of pursuing refunds with the inferred intention to damage the game's future. Why attempt to destroy something you say you love? Its like burning down an entire hotel with all the other guests still in it because you didn't like the room service...then realising you don't have anywhere else to stay. And before you say it, I don't fancy checking into the motel across the pond.
i am bit confused. Braben and Co - scammers?
Not quite. They have more in common with peter molyneux though. Capable of making promises they cant keep.
I doubt it will make enough funding to keep them running, the real game of FD is to make money and no offline means they can keep people paying to play.
Good point. I seem to have read somewhere that after receiving the game refunds are not possible. Anyway this is speculation because in a way it is not any legal interpretation that matters is is what FD actually do that is the point. I am sure most of the people who ordered physical disks are also backers who have been involved in the development process so they should know, but then - for most of the last two years offline mode has been recognized as a given for the released product.
We shall see....
I'm looking forward to my Thargoid pet drone that will follow my ship around.
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I don't really want to get involved in arguing with you but out of curiosity to the people who say its no big thing, would you be so magnanimous if the shoe was on the other foot and the news letter had said sorry guys we can't get online working properly. ED is going back to its roots and will be offline only?. If so then regardless of whether people agree or disagree, at least you can claim to be impartial and consistent. Not sure I can say I am tho.
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They have just been told the thing they loved(offline mode) has been shot in the back of the head and buried out back. Having said that I do not want the game to fail and I do not have hurt feeling or hate towards anyone. But I can understand why some people do have those feelings.
Another issue is this - with the networking system currently in place, if you're flying in an instance with someone else with poor networking (whether it's slower ADSL, or 3G, or they're playing over wifi and someone else in the house turns the microwave on), it seems that your play experience can be impacted by their networking blips. It's not just about whether you have a stable internet connection; it's about whether everyone / everything else in your instance does too, including the servers.
I can't say I've played 3.05 much, but in the versions I've played since premium beta started up to 3.04, there have been frequent problems when attempting to communicate with the server, whether it's been in joining the game at the start, entering / leaving supercruise, buying ships, or buying / selling commodities on the market. I hadn't realised the mining refineries did that too.
(Talking of mining, it seems very odd that the asteroids run out of resources so quickly, given how huge they are; it's even more odd that they restock when you supercruise out and back in again)
I hope they're increasing the resilience of these checks to cope with intermittent networking, whether it's your own home network, the other players in the instance, or the servers themselves. I suspect they might have put these server-side checks in place to mitigate the concerns of people who thought solo-online players would find a way of cheating, rack up loads of cash, then pull their characters into open play. Given offline play is no longer on the cards, Frontier need to double down and improve the resiliency of their servers and netcode.
Conversely, I doubt Frontier would want to destroy something they love either... and I am certain (read: hope), that there is a very, very, very, good reason. Let's hope that reason arrives tomorrow.
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