A proper apology for being misled would be a good start.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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A proper apology for being misled would be a good start.
Fair enough. My attempt at a bit of balance has failed. Carry on.
I want an offline mode as well. I don't think anyone would be complaining if it was included as a free post release feature, even in a very basic form. I wish people on this thread would stop fighting each other, though. Far better to lobby as one voice for the development of an offline mode with a living released game than be standing squabbling over its corpse.
I think that holds true on both sides of the argument.
I'm asking a genuine question,I think you know what the answer is which is why you are avoiding it.
Offline gaming is so last century, hardly the end of the world. Quit complaining and be grateful they're trying their best to get a good balanced online game.
You'd be better off griping about it being a 32 bit engine and not exploiting the power of modern hardware (i.e. should be a 64 bit build).
You'd be better off griping about it being a 32 bit engine and not exploiting the power of modern hardware (i.e. should be a 64 bit build).
I see nowhere in the newsletter stating there will be no offline mode.
It does, however, state ' Galaxy, story, missions, have to match, and it does mean the single player has to connect to the server from time to time, but this has the added advantage that everyone can participate in the activities that can happen in the galaxy. A fully offline experience would be unacceptably limited and static compared to the dynamic, ever unfolding experience we are delivering.'
I understand that to mean, you need to connect to the server for updates.
Am I not reading it right.....anyone?
Dryza.
It does, however, state ' Galaxy, story, missions, have to match, and it does mean the single player has to connect to the server from time to time, but this has the added advantage that everyone can participate in the activities that can happen in the galaxy. A fully offline experience would be unacceptably limited and static compared to the dynamic, ever unfolding experience we are delivering.'
I understand that to mean, you need to connect to the server for updates.
Am I not reading it right.....anyone?
Dryza.
So the users who have had the game killed for them by this removing of Offline Mode decision don't have the right to complain? Even if a small minority of their complaints are currently fueled by emotion, you don't think they should be listened too?
Here's a an extremely old idiom for you to consider: The pot calling the kettle black. The only one being selfish right now is you.
The other thing I'll never understand is the us and them mentality, do you actually think that because this decision doesn't affect you, that you are somehow special and that FD could never do this to you in the future?
Let me make this extremely simple and clear for you, I am not talking about FD taking away some feature of the game that you enjoy. I am talking about one day the game runs fine, the next day it completely stops working because FD have just decided that that's the way it's going to be. No warning, no reason, (apart from it's impractical), just boom, no more game.
Just read on reddit. That it will be good if they release server side application. So people will have opportunity to install their own world. But i am not sure that they do it. Greediness win any competitions. I just read closed answers from Michael Brookes . Basically after reading i have a feeling that his subliminal words were "We want to get money forever and will sale to all endless painted ships and coverages". I hope that i am not right.
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My impression is that the world is changing and there are still people out there who do not want to accept this!
I think this offline-mode-debate is fundametally rooted to how people experienced the world up to these days.
To make one example:
- Up to these days in order to be fully mobile you need to OWN a car - train/buses/cab can't provide you the flexibility a car can.
- But now we live at the verge of a new era that might change everything: Fully autonomous cars:
Since the car drives autonomously to OWN such a car is simply STUPID because of following reasons:
- Since there is no cab driver they are extremely cheap to rent
- Where ever you go there will always be such cars available for you
- No problems any more having cities filled with personal parking cars everwhere
- Dependent on your needs, you can rent different sizes of cars (2-person, 4-person, 10-person, transporter)
- ... and so on ...
Today people still live in a world in which they want to OWN things. Because they don't see the advantages of having things online/in the cloud/shared.
I know this example is too far stretched for some people but it illustrates how i feel about this discussion.
Yes, FD made a mistake in promising an offline-mode. But they did right in deciding to make a much better game (autonomous car) instead.
EVERYONE will profit from it - i am sure.
(And i say this being a liberal who normally dislike those socialistic ideas. But the advantages will be there for everyone.
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PS: I hope this post will not get marked as being "off-topic" because of having used the example of the "google car". It was only used to illustrate my support of the decision of the "online-only" restriction of ED.
I think this offline-mode-debate is fundametally rooted to how people experienced the world up to these days.
To make one example:
- Up to these days in order to be fully mobile you need to OWN a car - train/buses/cab can't provide you the flexibility a car can.
- But now we live at the verge of a new era that might change everything: Fully autonomous cars:
Since the car drives autonomously to OWN such a car is simply STUPID because of following reasons:
- Since there is no cab driver they are extremely cheap to rent
- Where ever you go there will always be such cars available for you
- No problems any more having cities filled with personal parking cars everwhere
- Dependent on your needs, you can rent different sizes of cars (2-person, 4-person, 10-person, transporter)
- ... and so on ...
Today people still live in a world in which they want to OWN things. Because they don't see the advantages of having things online/in the cloud/shared.
I know this example is too far stretched for some people but it illustrates how i feel about this discussion.
Yes, FD made a mistake in promising an offline-mode. But they did right in deciding to make a much better game (autonomous car) instead.
EVERYONE will profit from it - i am sure.
(And i say this being a liberal who normally dislike those socialistic ideas. But the advantages will be there for everyone.
)PS: I hope this post will not get marked as being "off-topic" because of having used the example of the "google car". It was only used to illustrate my support of the decision of the "online-only" restriction of ED.
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From the people who wanted off line, I can speak for myself as one of them I want to give feedback about the dropping of a stand-out feature of the game. I cannot speak for those claiming fraud and treachery. Probably most of them want the same.
Maybe that is a genuine question but it is phrased as a statement that groups two different sets as one set that contains contradictory properties - as such is is hard to answer without validating this invalid grouping.
You are nt reading it right. They have clarified and confirmed. The game requires a constant internet connection.
Again there were no gaurantees that anything in the game was a sure thing,we have been told offline is gone for good and why,what else is do you need to know?
Frankly I underestimated the impact of loss of offline mode. I read the newsletter and thought, oh well, not much of a loss..... Seems that it has annoyed quite a few in the way it was done and caused issues with trust.
Ooops.... I think they may be having some serious crisis meetings tomorrow.
Ninja'd but Michael Brookes has confirmed that indeed offline mode will not be in the release model.
I'm afraid that this is irrelevant. A 64 bit executable would not speed anything up as it's mostly waiting on the GPU or network. Also, seeing as the resident set of the program is less than 700MB the extra address space access wouldn't be used.
The only effect it would have would be stopping those using 32 bit Windows from running the executable and/or requiring Frontier to create two executables.
Sorry for offtop. I removed part of your message. I know and got one advantage of online cloud . Sony leaked my credit card 2 years ago as i remember from PSN. If you search in internet you will find tonns of leakages from clouds. People happy with such advantages.
I agree that it does not clearly state that there will be no offline mode. It would be good to have official clarification about whether or not there will be offline single player mode. I personally would love an offline single player mode as I love to use trainers. Trainers only work in offline single player mode.
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