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Call for assistance -- Subject D-2 missing and in danger -- Ngaruayanka system
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I'm not sure why it has to be 0 population system. If she was escaping, any system would do.
Having wandered aimlessly around most of the systems in the surrounding area i think this is the most likely outcome.
I think we are again reading to much into the message, the more i look at it the more it just reads like a startled communication.
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Im not sure D-2 actually made it out under her own steam.
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Yeah, thats fairly plausible
I think it’s one of her pursuers that got blown to pieces rather than Seo. My impressions of her make me think she’s less likely to use that kind of language compared to the pilots/mercs chasing her.
By what they were blown to shreds, now that’s a good question. My bets are either Guardian Construct or the less likely alternative - at hand of lack of caustic residue and cloud - of a new Interceptor type.
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The "what the - is that?" ship is most certainly not Seo, it's most likely one of the 4 pursuers that you get a log from just prior to that one.
And they weren't aiming to destroy her ship, but disable it.
Seo has too much plot-armor based on her being high-lighted in the Galnet articles and the expectancy of seeing what will happen from her going off on this lone mission.
CMDRs are meant to follow behind Seo's trail and find out what she already has.
Much like Seo has given the clues to Tanner, CMDRs are now given these clues and are supposed to play the Noir detective sleuth here.
You are not going to be stumbling across Seo in-game, the game isn't set up to give players chance encounters of significant characters mentioned. You won't find Aisling Duval or Zachary Hudson in-game, and you won't find Seo Jin-ae.
"I didn't ask to join this stupid war with the aliens, now I'm trapped in it because of him..." - Seo has a vendetta with Salvation, and no allegiance to the Thargoids. She set out on her lone mission with the goal of finding Salvation. Meaning, if there's a purpose in presenting this narrative (Which there most likely is since they put time into writing it.), then Seo will most likely find Salvation. Or she already has.
Shangdi has ship debris where you obtain shiplogs from a discussion from Seo's pursuers. But that could mean one of them was destroyed there in Shangdi. Which means 1 of the 4 destinations was never reached by the pursuers.
The other is a log from a ship destroyed by some unknown scary space mystery in Ankaa.
That leaves 2/4 who went on from Shangdi. What did those other 2 find? Did they find anything? What was their fates?
Seo mentions her connection with the Thargoids and always being able to hear them; gives credence to the destroyed pursuer ship being surprised by a Thargoid, possibly new type of Thargoid and possibly answering some mind-linked cry from Seo. But Thargoids are fairly common knowledge now, we're in a war with them after all, and there isn't the usual traces of Thargoid caustics.
It seems we don't really have enough info to know for sure what destroyed that ship, yet. But whatever it was, it startled the pilot and was something they had probably never seen before.
Some Guardian construct thing? maybe. Salvation astral projecting himself like some Guardian mind-matrix god? Sounds kinda cool. Maybe?
Salvation had those plans of a 'consciousness upload' thingy (Which he most likely succeeded in building and used upon his death. All the mentioning of it would be pointless if FDev didn't want to bring it into play in a narrative sense.)
Tanner mentioned it as Guardian tech to build a storage device for the mind. So, Salvation was using Guardian tech.
It's plausible, and from the Frameshift Live hints; they've already mentioned that there's something players haven't picked up on yet, and the clues of blue M&Ms, triangle shapes, and the Guardians, there's most likely Guardian stuffs at play here and whatever we're looking for is related to Guardian tech and Salvation.
But we have mostly speculation and no real trails to follow after the destroyed pursuer ship.
What was that pilot so bewildered by?
An Azimuth facility with an access port for a primary - what?
How and where would Salvation build this Guardian storage device?
And they weren't aiming to destroy her ship, but disable it.
Seo has too much plot-armor based on her being high-lighted in the Galnet articles and the expectancy of seeing what will happen from her going off on this lone mission.
CMDRs are meant to follow behind Seo's trail and find out what she already has.
Much like Seo has given the clues to Tanner, CMDRs are now given these clues and are supposed to play the Noir detective sleuth here.
You are not going to be stumbling across Seo in-game, the game isn't set up to give players chance encounters of significant characters mentioned. You won't find Aisling Duval or Zachary Hudson in-game, and you won't find Seo Jin-ae.
"I didn't ask to join this stupid war with the aliens, now I'm trapped in it because of him..." - Seo has a vendetta with Salvation, and no allegiance to the Thargoids. She set out on her lone mission with the goal of finding Salvation. Meaning, if there's a purpose in presenting this narrative (Which there most likely is since they put time into writing it.), then Seo will most likely find Salvation. Or she already has.
Shangdi has ship debris where you obtain shiplogs from a discussion from Seo's pursuers. But that could mean one of them was destroyed there in Shangdi. Which means 1 of the 4 destinations was never reached by the pursuers.
The other is a log from a ship destroyed by some unknown scary space mystery in Ankaa.
That leaves 2/4 who went on from Shangdi. What did those other 2 find? Did they find anything? What was their fates?
Seo mentions her connection with the Thargoids and always being able to hear them; gives credence to the destroyed pursuer ship being surprised by a Thargoid, possibly new type of Thargoid and possibly answering some mind-linked cry from Seo. But Thargoids are fairly common knowledge now, we're in a war with them after all, and there isn't the usual traces of Thargoid caustics.
It seems we don't really have enough info to know for sure what destroyed that ship, yet. But whatever it was, it startled the pilot and was something they had probably never seen before.
Some Guardian construct thing? maybe. Salvation astral projecting himself like some Guardian mind-matrix god? Sounds kinda cool. Maybe?
Salvation had those plans of a 'consciousness upload' thingy (Which he most likely succeeded in building and used upon his death. All the mentioning of it would be pointless if FDev didn't want to bring it into play in a narrative sense.)
Tanner mentioned it as Guardian tech to build a storage device for the mind. So, Salvation was using Guardian tech.
It's plausible, and from the Frameshift Live hints; they've already mentioned that there's something players haven't picked up on yet, and the clues of blue M&Ms, triangle shapes, and the Guardians, there's most likely Guardian stuffs at play here and whatever we're looking for is related to Guardian tech and Salvation.
But we have mostly speculation and no real trails to follow after the destroyed pursuer ship.
What was that pilot so bewildered by?
An Azimuth facility with an access port for a primary - what?
How and where would Salvation build this Guardian storage device?
Given some of the thematics around Seo:
... i wonder if there's something new to discover in either of those places. I doubt it, but curious anyway... i feel far too little is coming from or focused around HIP22460 post-boom... it's a little suspicious.
- Finding stuff in stations where Azimuth used to be; and
- Things around Salvation not actually dying
... i wonder if there's something new to discover in either of those places. I doubt it, but curious anyway... i feel far too little is coming from or focused around HIP22460 post-boom... it's a little suspicious.
I suppose it's entirely possible that was D-2 remains, but from dramatic point of view it would have been rather lame ending of that story. I still think it's more likely someone who was following her, who found something that was also following her. If it would have been her in that debris, I'm certain it would have been marked more clearly as her last message (they got her messages voiced, so they would made this one voiced too - even if this would be a garbled scream).
I'm not sure if there's anything else to find at this point (although I'm thinking some kind of beacon left by D-2 somewhere, or her abandoned damaged ship) , but I guess we'll know from Galnet soon enough.
@Florenus @Kira Goto , I don't think @Darrack is suggesting the wreck is Seo's.
I read "I'm not sure D-2 actually made it out under her own steam" as meaning she had help to get away... not that she was destroyed.
That help was potentially from a Thargoid, since she can seemingly "understand" Thargoids and interface with their ships.
There are a bunch of "tip off" messages around Colonia and the bubble leading to sites where ships have been disabled and crashed onto a planet.
The log text for some of them could certainly be read as Thargoid - surprise, horrible noises, etc - but again the ships only show signs of conventional weapon damage, and especially for the Colonia sites, Thargoids wouldn't be expected. An attacker that you know is theoretically possible can still be a big surprise if you weren't expecting it right then.
Given the pre-Proteus hints that the shutdown pulse could be used against human ships, then the Thargoids doing exactly that, I wonder if Seo has managed to obtain and tune one.
I thought Darrack was suggesting that she was more or less abducted and this was where it happened. I just assumed he thinks that ship was destroyed and she has been taken, which would mean that this is the end of that story for now - and as I said, I think this would have been made more obvious.
I don't think Thargoid (or something) showing up necessarily means they're "helping" her. It might have been looking for her because they're sensing eachother. But who knows.
I'm just rather leaning towards version where her pursuer met another, more mysterious, pursuer and we can still find more D-2 tracks, because she wasn't there when this happened.
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Correct i was assuming she had been abducted by aliens (old school i know but), actually never crossed my mind that it was a message from one of her attackers, but then it was late last night and i was still on a high from the Football.
This morning over breaky i had another wild idea, what if shes piloting the alien craft (like the borg in Picard), shes creating traps for revenge on those she blames.
Would make a great twist in the plot.
But back to the real world i think we are now just waiting for Tanner to ask for help again.
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Wouldn't surprise me if the continuation came several weeks later. Don't let them chain you to this filthy place that is the bubble
Aye but the thought of buckying my 83LY Aluminum Annie back 23K LY is not appealingWouldn't surprise me if the continuation came several weeks later. Don't let them chain you to this filthy place that is the bubble
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Already had a fast look at HIP22460, DIDIO, SOSONG and NOVAS. No new signal in the first but Vox Galactica tourist spots gave me new "Dicovered Logs" along those from Nemesis. In short empire said "they protect people so we help them", Alliance was more "kill them all", and Federation was "No problem, the bigger it is, the better it f..s"
I have no idea if they can help.
I'm looking at this again, D-2 mentions retrieval of data both from Hind Mine (T-Tauri, I said before this is similar format to E-Enghy) but also about retrieving information from abandoned sites in systems that Azimuth was recently forced out of and that one of those sites had information she was about to discuss further.
I'm going to look into that once I run through Ankaa again, is there any way to identify which systems Azimuth were forced out of.
I'm going to look into that once I run through Ankaa again, is there any way to identify which systems Azimuth were forced out of.
Already had a fast look at HIP22460, DIDIO, SOSONG and NOVAS. No new signal in the first but Vox Galactica tourist spots gave me new "Dicovered Logs" along those from Nemesis. In short empire said "they protect people so we help them", Alliance was more "kill them all", and Federation was "No problem, the bigger it is, the better it f..s"
Those are older logs from the time before the Proteus incident. They were originally accessible at the capships the superpowers had in those systems, but were made into tourist beacons so people can read the exposition even after the capships moved. Good old times.
Talking to Wych Hunt, a player initiative that forced them out and was mentioned in GalNet
The systems you're looking for are Maia, Merope, Qarato, afaik. Qarato is very close to where SEO, not D-2, was spying around, and close to Mbooni, a stronghold of Azimuth. There is also Wandrama where they tried to expand but were defeated in a community goal.
All those places were checked already, of course (I didn't check T-Tauri this time, because I'm surveying it once a week anyway). Sorry to disappoint you, but as expected, the characters talk about things that do not exist in the game for us to witness.