I don't think so. Most complaints I've seen weren't about the delay itself, but Frontier's lack of communication once again. They waited pretty much until the planned release to tell us they are still in the "investigation" phase and production hasn't even started.
Frontier keep repeating exactly the same mistakes. Not sure what you expect the "same old names" to do about that. FRONTIER need to address that.
There is a certain pool of players and ex-players who moan and complain and demand this or that no matter what Frontier does and no matter how far fetched or technically uninformed the demands are ("DLSS when?"). There is no question that certain things need to be addressed, but if it's the posters I think Rat Catcher has in mind, most of their compaints bear little connection to the reality of ED.
Ping me on PSN: TITAN_REGIIS. Also see the r/elitewinterslegacy subreddit for other infoActually I have one but its only 3 people w/out a home system.. I hope you find what you want. My ps4 squadron is is 'ps4e'. On pc I'm in a other squadron which ill add I'm more serious about. H.G knows.
Was there any ambiguity in my comment? (which, it would appear to heve been reinforced by you own response)
The same complaints from the few, regardless of any action or inaction...
Has rewording clarified the remark?
There is wisdom...
But, curiously even commenting that some will complain... Blah, blah... A response perfectly illustrating the point was made, brilliant!
I personally found Helmut's rephrase helpful (and I agree, there is no pleasing some people on this forum.) Beyond that, whether the ambiguity is in your writing, my reading comprehension, or over there in the box with the elk, I am going to be bold and suggest that probably no-one really cares and we should all move on.
Well, from reading around, there are some who appear to be wounded by anything frontier do, normally the armchair developers.
I already made my point about not being bothered earlier in this thread, you expressed the opposite opinion.
But, I agree, my sitting back and smiling will do instead, moving on...
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Answer: Yep! But just a certain pool of players and ex-players. Every time you criticize Elite, the next update gets delayed by a year, so cut it out!
Though I am going to put on my own self-moderator hat (hey, we're all moderators of our own content) and give myself a warning that "Recent posts you made on our forums were off-topic to the thread's core discussion. This is an advisory notification. No warning points were applied via this advisory."
Okay, I'll behave now.
Whatever planning and development resources have been expended in that year, FDEV should have something of substance to share. If not, they would have known about it way before now and should have explained the situation much earlier. If so and the basic concept is there but needs more time to implement, then why not use their livestream set up to give some sort of preview?
Maybe a series of compound failures has led to this, ok but I'd be checking the offices for cursed monkey paws at this point.
What is it then? Strictly speaking about Odyssey, I was hoping to learn about it with the release of the "rework".
Me. Ok maybe not HIGH risk, but far higher than I'm comfortable with and a lot of people share these concerns and with good reason.
For practical purposes most realistic opinions are not going to be unique. lots of people want new ships, ship interiors, VR for Odyssey and reworked engineers and these opinions are bound to coincide with some of the popular Elite content creators out there.
Now I think Odyssey should let you start an independent bakery on any landable planet and let you decide how much powdered sugar to put on the doughnuts. I don't think any youtuber has come up with THIS idea! but I don't think its going to gain much traction sadly
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No it’s absolutely fine, your opinion on my point and I don’t take offence at all.
I just feel the way I do, I still have a bitter taste from what happened to PlayStation but at least the game can still be played there more or less as it was, we’ll leave that there.
The major feature overhaul was the main thing for me from last year’s roadmap, apart from the patches to fix the game and improve performance.
I’m happy for Update 15, and look forward to it, whatever it may fix or bring, but for me personally (being nowhere near any of the Thargoid Maelstroms and far far out of the bubble) the current narrative has little for me to get interested in. Hopefully there’s something, a new ship, a new weapon or something.
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I'm probably white knighting as usual But I'd tend to think that the wording about the feature rework was very poor. I find it hard to believe that they haven't started on it, that they don't know what it's going to be, and that they'll start thinking about it at the end of year. What I know for sure is a whopper is that they will let us know what it's going to be when they start to work on it, they never tell us anything like that until it's about to appear in the game, or it's been released..
Most likely they've decided what it's going to be, and they've started developing the code, but for some reason they've ran out of time to include it in update 15. I think it's likely that they have reduced the development team, and this is the reason it's not in update 15, but of course it could also be that they underestimated the amount of work, or they ran into issues with the existing code base that make it take longer.
But I'd tend to think that the wording about the feature rework was very poor. I find it hard to believe that they haven't started on it, that they don't know what it's going to be, and that they'll start thinking about it at the end of year. What I know for sure is a whopper is that they will let us know what it's going to be when they start to work on it, they never tell us anything like that until it's about to appear in the game, or it's been released..Most likely they've decided what it's going to be, and they've started developing the code, but for some reason they've ran out of time to include it in update 15. I think it's likely that they have reduced the development team, and this is the reason it's not in update 15, but of course it could also be that they underestimated the amount of work, or they ran into issues with the existing code base that make it take longer.
They could easily clarify if their message has been misinterpreted. No doubt they are aware of the content of the thread.I'm probably white knighting as usual
Most likely they've decided what it's going to be, and they've started developing the code, but for some reason they've ran out of time to include it in update 15. I think it's likely that they have reduced the development team, and this is the reason it's not in update 15, but of course it could also be that they underestimated the amount of work, or they ran into issues with the existing code base that make it take longer.
Thank you for the update. This is great news but... what about asking players what they think as a part of your "investigation"?...
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What exactly is the issue with engineering?
Due to thargoid war
Does anyone know if this means I'll get that 20gigs back from Horizons that I don't want when you install from Steam? (Currently Steam installs both Odyssey and Horizons so 70+ instead of just 50+ like when you use just the launcher without steam)
I really wish Frontier would just separate Live from Legacy on Steam, so a person can download the one they want and JUST the one they want. They are two different games at this point, as much as X3 is different from X4, so sell them accordingly on Steam.
Support a faction.
Start a war.
Gain your faction a station.
Use your exploration data to nurture them.
Flip the System to your faction.
Expand it into other systems.
Get attacked by another faction.
Seek your vengeance by opposing your enemies at every opportunity.
Negotiate a peace treaty.
Just a thought