No Single Player offline Mode then?

[Jeheil]

I am surprised at the angst on this topic.

You can still play 100% solo, no other humans in your galaxy.

You just need an internet connection (like the one used to post the 314 pages of posts in this forum) to play, is that REALLY a big deal....REALLY, in return, you get a dynamic economy and galactic events (plus whatever else) injected into your galaxy.

Given we all BOUGHT the game online, get it patched online and QQ in the forums online then other than folks on dialup, flakey connections its all goodski surely.

I say surely, but know its not...given the size of this thread....just leaves me somewhat agog.

I would rather they spend their time on a trading computer, better UI, improved multiplayer (shouldn't have mentioned that), better galaxy map (utilisation), additional features, than try to deliver a dynamic galaxy in a box for offline play.

 

[LoSt]

Not entirely true, they're dealing with refunds on a "Case by case basis", which is corporate speak for "We're not committing to a formal refund policy over this and we're not admitting fault or liability for anything that's been said at this point." At this stage they're being -very- careful not to openly state they're willing to offer refunds to any and all who state that as a reason for wanting one because if they did it'd open the proverbial floodgates, even though arguably they're sticking fingers in a possible dam if this turns legal (especially as regards Kickstarter).

Cynical? Absolutely, but there we go.

Cynicism is the sign of a healthy mind.

-- An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.

 

[Tim Wheatley]

You just need an internet connection (like the one used to post the 314 pages of posts in this forum) to play

Yeah. Because gaming and forums are the same.

 

[LoSt]

I am surprised at the angst on this topic.

You can still play 100% solo, no other humans in your galaxy.

You just need an internet connection (like the one used to post the 314 pages of posts in this forum) to play, is that REALLY a big deal....REALLY, in return, you get a dynamic economy and galactic events (plus whatever else) injected into your galaxy.

Given we all BOUGHT the game online, get it patched online and QQ in the forums online then other than folks on dialup, flakey connections its all goodski surely.

I say surely, but know its not...given the size of this thread....just leaves me somewhat agog.

I would rather they spend their time on a trading computer, better UI, improved multiplayer (shouldn't have mentioned that), better galaxy map (utilisation), additional features, than try to deliver a dynamic galaxy in a box for offline play.

I think it's more in preparation for when those servers are no longer available. As the servers go, so goes the online game.

 

[zaccheus44]

Nah, they don't want to (because of their precious "secrets", nevermind the fact that we'd be fine with a "barebones" server without any "secret" content and with a different galactic seed):

My fear ar this point is that the "secrets" they are trying to protect is that there aren't any secrets...

 

[Dave Leestir]

Here are my thoughts on the cancellation of a fully offline mode in Elite Dangerous.
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At 13mins I start to talk about my SUPPORT of the decision, explaining that I just don't have to be happy about it.

Good point that you support FD doing what they think is right.

It's important to have principles and stick to them.

I just wish they had some more, like not telling people they could play offline, and selling the game to them even when they knew they wouldn't deliver on it.

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My fear ar this point is that the "secrets" they are trying to protect is that there aren't any secrets...

You mean that the leader of the Empire isn't really dressed in the finest clothes?

Maybe it just gets difficult to remember what's real and what was just spin.
(Oh, that's why we get a spinning ship while the game loads )

 

[CMDR Crustatious Cornelius Pig]

For Many offline play NOT an issue.

Offline play simply isn't an issue for ME. I've had access to broadband since 1998 and I expect I will have it until I draw my last breath.

I understand the disappointment for those that primarily bought into Elite dangerous for offline(No Net) play. no offense intended for those who are disappointed!!

Early on, I suspected that offline mode wasn't going to happen, in part, based on how the game was evolving and because alpha and beta tests that didn't include this option at all for testing.

How many alpha's and beta's also suspected this was going to occur?

 

[Tim Wheatley]

they knew they wouldn't deliver on it.

It's impossible for us to ever know that.

 

[Bkim]

Ouch...this hurts Frontier!! I really thought Frontier was different. Before i pledged 120 euro's ( the biggest amount of money i have ever spend on a game) i watched David in an interview, saw you tube vids and because SINGLE PLAYER was an announced feature i decided to back this game. What stings me the most is the backstabbing feeling after this sudden annoucement. I lost my complete faith in David and his team. And no...i do not believe a single word they say about the arguments of their decision. I never play online unless for simracing via dedicated simrace sites in an controller area. I certainly do NOT race those uncontrolled, suicidale public servers. That is what ED is going to be. "Join the clan...otherwise...EVE feeling). Could you imagne what would happen if, say 50% of the people would play offline? The whole backend sitting there doing nothing...it would be bad for sales. One thing is clear to me in this world...its about money and so is this decision and Frontier is so weak they do not dare to admit it.
120 euro's down the drain, which isnt a big deal but Frontier took care of the fact my believe in developers had shrunken even more and i wil NEVER EVER AGAIN fall into the beautiful story trap that is called early acces. The only thing this world needs is thrust...my ten cents good bye and have fun.

 

[LoSt]

Offline play simply isn't an issue for ME. I've had access to broadband since 1998 and I expect I will have it until I draw my last breath.

I understand the disappointment for those that primarily bought into Elite dangerous for offline(No Net) play.

Early on, I suspected that offline mode wasn't going to happen, in part, based on how the game was evolving and because alpha and beta tests that didn't include this option at all for testing.

How many alpha's and beta's also suspected this was going to occur?

I agree that I had my doubts about ED going offline, much as I do with SC offering a private server module.

The fact that you may have broadband until you draw your last breath doesn't mean the Elite servers will still be there when that happens. I think a lot of the outrage is due to a faction of longterm gamers wanting to continue to play ED regardless of the existence Frontier Dev and it's servers. Just my humble opinion.

This probably could have gone in the EPIC OFFLINE thread though.

 

[Cmdr Cheese Wedge]

I am surprised at the angst on this topic.

You can still play 100% solo, no other humans in your galaxy.

You just need an internet connection (like the one used to post the 314 pages of posts in this forum) to play, is that REALLY a big deal....REALLY, in return, you get a dynamic economy and galactic events (plus whatever else) injected into your galaxy.

Given we all BOUGHT the game online, get it patched online and QQ in the forums online then other than folks on dialup, flakey connections its all goodski surely.

I say surely, but know its not...given the size of this thread....just leaves me somewhat agog.

I would rather they spend their time on a trading computer, better UI, improved multiplayer (shouldn't have mentioned that), better galaxy map (utilisation), additional features, than try to deliver a dynamic galaxy in a box for offline play.

Jeheil It's not so much as "you just need an internet connection" It's the quality of that internet connection, your ISP, Your bandwidth allocation even your location ie other side of world, BTW you can post to the forums via smartphone etc, think about it for a bit.

 

[Dave Leestir]

It's impossible for us to ever know that.

I'm only saying that based on what Michael said about the reason why it has become "impractical":
Too much code was moved server-side, so the client became dependent upon a server.
That happened a very long time ago.
It must have been known at FD before the Newsletter was published that there wasn't time/resource to build a new game to support offline play ready for launch.

Or even that the desire to keep the "secrets" hidden in FD's domain would mean that no offline version would be released.

Maybe I should just dial my complain back a notch to FD should be more principled about dropping a fundamental feature really late with no prior warning.
Also, I don't understand why they are reluctant to at least entertain the idea that they might really want to offer offline later. Ever.

 

[SlickReed]

Ouch...this hurts Frontier!! I really thought Frontier was different. Before i pledged 120 euro's ( the biggest amount of money i have ever spend on a game) i watched David in an interview, saw you tube vids and because SINGLE PLAYER was an announced feature i decided to back this game. What stings me the most is the backstabbing feeling after this sudden annoucement. I lost my complete faith in David and his team. And no...i do not believe a single word they say about the arguments of their decision. I never play online unless for simracing via dedicated simrace sites in an controller area. I certainly do NOT race those uncontrolled, suicidale public servers. That is what ED is going to be. "Join the clan...otherwise...EVE feeling). Could you imagne what would happen if, say 50% of the people would play offline? The whole backend sitting there doing nothing...it would be bad for sales. One thing is clear to me in this world...its about money and so is this decision and Frontier is so weak they do not dare to admit it.
120 euro's down the drain, which isnt a big deal but Frontier took care of the fact my believe in developers had shrunken even more and i wil NEVER EVER AGAIN fall into the beautiful story trap that is called early acces. The only thing this world needs is thrust...my ten cents good bye and have fun.

Single player still exist just not offline. So you have Internet and you do use it for gaming? Then your golden. Enjoy

 

[FX2K]

Not all reasons for wanting offline play relate to internet connections either. I wanted to blaze my own trail without having to worry about the game being hacked to death like so many online games are. Considering Solo / MP have an effect on each other, going solo may or may not avoid such situations.

But.. I do and will continue to play ED online.
I also completely understand why other people who pledged and paid for a game expecting offline mode are disappointed too.
Now my concern is how FD will handle cheats / exploits and hacking, but I have already posted everything I have to say on that in this thread, so I wont go into it again

How will Frontier tackle cheating?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=16216&page=7&p=1007140&viewfull=1#post1007140

 

[Gerli]

Phew !!!
imagine how big this thread would be if they has said ...OFFLINE MODE ONLY !!

watch 0:53
http://youtu.be/lxfeBpagvQw
It's a feature now

 

[CMDR Crustatious Cornelius Pig]

Ya, it could have gone in the epic thread however it would have just been lost among the thousands of posts ...

I think it would be cool if they did release the server side if the game dies out in a few years.

 

[SAB380]

I suspected that online multiplayer and online solo may not have happened either.

We got 2 out of 3 !

 

[LoSt]

Ya, it could have gone in the epic thread however it would have just been lost among the thousands of posts ...

I think it would be cool if they did release the server side if the game dies out in a few years.

I hope SC stays the course with the private server offering as I'm a backer there as well. It'd been too long without a space opera game that I backed both.

 

[-o-]

Greetings, this is my first (and probably only) post.

Back when Frontier Developments announced the Elite: Dangerous kickstarter, I got excited as Elite II: Frontier is probably the game I've played second most (the game I've played most is probably TES2: Daggerfall). But at the same time skeptical cause it had been almost 2 decades since Frontier Developments released a game I wanted to play so I wasn't sure they would be able to pull it off, so I did not give away any money for the project.

But still, because of my fond memories of Elite II, I've been keeping up with the news regarding the developments of the game and planned on buying it when it was released. But no offline mode instantly killed all my hype for Elite: Dangerous in one single blow, and I won't be buying this game.

Welcome to the forums Freddo.

Lets hope the disappointment you expressed in your entry will be rectified during the coming days.

Coming just before release, the timing of the news is poor .... but we still have enough time for Elite: Resurrection.

 

[the darkwalker]

Here are my thoughts on the cancellation of a fully offline mode in Elite Dangerous. Apologies for any background noise, um-ing and er-ing. This was completely free-spoken. Skip to 6mins in if you were already aware of the cancellation and just want to hear my reasons for being upset about it, skip to 9mins for the MAIN reasons. At 13mins I start to talk about my SUPPORT of the decision, explaining that I just don't have to be happy about it.

I also didn't realize I move my hands so much until I uploaded this... Wow...

[video=youtube_share;LA-ZvZJ9fvw]http://youtu.be/LA-ZvZJ9fvw[/video]

very interesting! subbed