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No Single Player offline Mode then?
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You didnt understand the Message from him!
I have zero interest in being advertised to.
I have zero interest in interacting with online players.
All the previous Elite games were offline.
The kickstarter was advertised to me as being offline enabled. David even confirmed on several occasions that offline would be possible.
There's nothing wrong with checking with the server to validate your account, but moving to a completely online only game is really NOT a good idea. What happens if the servers are not available. What happens if the servers are overloaded.. I play offline games for a reason.
I have zero interest in interacting with online players.
All the previous Elite games were offline.
The kickstarter was advertised to me as being offline enabled. David even confirmed on several occasions that offline would be possible.
There's nothing wrong with checking with the server to validate your account, but moving to a completely online only game is really NOT a good idea. What happens if the servers are not available. What happens if the servers are overloaded.. I play offline games for a reason.
Braben needs to watch this.
In a earlier post you said the reason you bought it because of awesome engine sounds...
Well, im fine with no offline mode, didn't even know there was gonna be one. From time to time I've seen in the forum people mention it. But i was thinking "yeah right, how is that gonna happend when almost everything is done on the servers". It can't be the same, people will hack it to the core.
I'm really fine with online only. Makes for quicker support & updates as well as new features and other content.
It's not 1984 anymore.
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As a person who recently lost their job, and is having money issues, net connectivity *IS* a very big issue to me. At any moment, I might run out of money to pay for my connection. And once that happens, I'll no longer be able to play a game that I've paid for.
Steam has an offline mode, so my steam games would be unaffected. However this is no-longer going to be the case with Eliteangerous, despite offline being advertised in the kickstarter.
Steam has an offline mode, so my steam games would be unaffected. However this is no-longer going to be the case with Elite
angerous, despite offline being advertised in the kickstarter.
Ok I have also spent in high figures, and I plan to go nowhere, one of the backers has already explained he was acting a little prematurely. So please lets keep calm debate and not over sensationalize anything.
This is a big issue, and hopefully tomorrow we might just get an announcement, I do not know... let me make this clear..
I am not a Frontier Employee, I have no inside knowledge or influence... I just help keep the forum flowing.
I hope that the concerns of the forum and backers is addressed in some way.
Lets wait calmly and see.
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I really enjoyed, if that is the right word, listening to your opinions on this announcement.
As a big player of Frontier Elite 2 when I was younger, I too had a nostalgic feeling when you held up the original boxed games in your hand.
I think there's something a bit deeper going on with people's feelings by this announcement than just not being able to play off-line,
I feel it's a kind of detachment feeling... like Frontier Developments are saying we are now going to detached ourselves from all off-line play, and all off-line players.
Like you I can play on-line without any problem, but this decision makes me feel like you, it's that kind of non support for something, that makes me feel it can't be good for the game in the long run.
and the idea of never seeing a boxed game in your hand of ED, does feel somehow wrong.
I just hope it doesn't have major problematic consequences.
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Sorry but i do not think so.
Over Weeks and Months were no Infos about the terrible Online-Play. Again in tihis Newsletter DB spokes about the dnamic Galaxy but where is it? The Mission and Trading is not dynamic. 1 Year of Alpha and Beta and only 30 Days to Release. When will the Players see and test this "Dynamic"? No Infos only big Words.
I want my Money back and ED is History for me.
Although this thread mainly concerns those who expected to play offline, the two quoted posts above are from members with little to no interest in the offline mode of ED. It demonstrates that even within this group, different conclusions are reached.
So far, what I have seen in this thread (and yes, I have read it all) can be categorised as;
1. Those who intended to play offline who are now concerned to the point where;
a) they have already requested a refund.
b) are waiting on FD's response before deciding on requesting a refund.
c) will attempt to switch from inteding to play offline, to online.
2. Those who intended to play online and;
a) cannot understand what the fuss is all about, and just hope these 'offliners' dissappear regardless of whether or not they get a refund.
b) understand what the fuss is all about, and have offered their support.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but at just under 5,000 replies from over 700 different members, this thread is now the most replied to thread ever in these Frontier forums, surpassing threads which have lasted months/years, in just a matter of days.
Hardly the ramblings of a few disgruntled members.
I am personally very disappointed that solo offline has been scrapped. My internet connection is not good at the best of times and at the worst does not work at all. I bought into the Beta (I'm not a KS) on the premise that I would have solo offline. My experience so far has been that approximately 50% of the time 'open' play is okay but the other 50% it is just unplayable. I am worried that after release the 'solo' online's internet requirements will make the game unplayable for me.
Is it FDs fault I am in the situation I am in..... probably not. It was my decision to hand over my money on a promise and they have no control over my internet speed but they do have control over their promotional material. I will wait and see how it works after the game is released before I start stamping my foot and having a serious 'dummy spit' but I really am worried and so very disappointed.
Is it FDs fault I am in the situation I am in..... probably not. It was my decision to hand over my money on a promise and they have no control over my internet speed but they do have control over their promotional material. I will wait and see how it works after the game is released before I start stamping my foot and having a serious 'dummy spit' but I really am worried and so very disappointed.
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As a person who recently lost their job, and is having money issues, net connectivity *IS* a very big issue to me. At any moment, I might run out of money to pay for my connection. And once that happens, I'll no longer be able to play a game that I've paid for.
Steam has an offline mode, so my steam games would be unaffected. However this is no-longer going to be the case with Elite
Steam having a offline mode doesn't necessary mean the steam game you are playing will work offline. As just one example, Rust, is multiplayer only and does not work offline.
Understood on losing your job, I hope you find another soon but do you expect to never have job again? how will you afford the electricity to play the offline version of the game?
I'll be eagerly awaiting results of this discussion from the devs.
All I'll say, is that I'm **SERIOUSLY** considering asking for a refund.
So Frontier, the balls in your court. Do I get to attempt a £150 refund, or do I get offline functionality, as promised?
All I'll say, is that I'm **SERIOUSLY** considering asking for a refund.
So Frontier, the balls in your court. Do I get to attempt a £150 refund, or do I get offline functionality, as promised?
An excellent video, Tim, and no you weren't ranting. You put forward your opinions in a very calm and measured way. Others watching it may just say "Oh, just get over it, it's only a game!" which is true, but you've shown that some games are more important than others.
Elite in my humble opinion was and still is the most important game in PC history, take it as you like I feel FD has diminished and devalued their own history by going the DRM always online route, very sad
I have many steam games and I can play them with steam offline, a most recent example would be Farcry3 who in fact needs ubiplay but it can also happen offline. Yes you need to download the game, but if Im on vacation back in my home country where internet at my mom's is the worst I can still play my games
What? Not being able to play the game? Consider an issue at launch which means you cant play the game, maybe for a month. How upset would you be? Well you would have much less right to be upset than most here who under their own circumstances cannot play at all. Period.
Especially when it was understood no one in this situation would be in the slightest affected as there would be an offline, stated multiple times by devs and the CEO, and in the FAQ of the KS, and on Reddit AMA with MB and DB, and in media interviews? Then finding out weeks before release that they have reneged on providing that?
I would say anyone genuinely affected has every right to be angry, and vocal, and it's not anyones business to tell them its not a problem. It most certainly is, Fangrim.
I can understand why the majority, who sit at home with stable permanent connections might sit there and go, why is this a problem in this day and age? But if you actually think about it for a moment before typing you might understand there are many situations where it is a huge problem for people.
Have tried to bite my tongue, and even stay away from the forums for the last 24 hours, so have only read the thread up to this point.
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I vaguely remember offline being suggested but had assumed it wasn't an option purely because it wasn't being presented in the beta as one. I mean there didn't appear to be anything in the day to day reality to suggest there would be. If it had been the be all and end all for me I would have at least posted "hey when do we get to test offline" or something.
I find the reaction a little surprising.
I find the reaction a little surprising.
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