But those dont climb. I feel like the climbing structures arent really working for such small animals
Walkthrough Exhibits: What's Next?
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People said the exact same thing from gibbons because "the climbing system can't work for gibbons because they mainly brachiat, and the system don't work well with brachiation", then frontier added both the siamang and the lar gibbon who are fully capable of brachiat.
Again: WE was used for a arborial mammal before because it have a extremelly slow life, with is the extreme opposite of tamarins, who could perfectly work for habitat animals.
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Size isn’t an issue because of prairie dogs. And the frenetic behavior isn’t an issue either because EVERY animal in game has motions that aren’t able to be captured in game. The capuchins should also be WE with that logic and IMO I’d much rather have a lack of some animations and WAY more customization than them trapped in a box and the same loops over and over again. The main reason I was against the sloth WE was this reason. The WE’s should be kept for flyers (if we can’t get aviaries to work) the sloth I’ve come to live with because of how slow it is but little monkeys is a step too far IMO
We should at least be able to customize the inside to look more natural. That'd be nice
An option to change the logs to more natural branches would be so nice.
But i feel like making the structure flexicolor would already go such a long way
I'm not sure I follow what you mean. While we can't customize the climbing items, aside from removing them, we can still put building and nature items in there as we would habitats. Unless you were talking specifically about the climbing items, in which case I agree.
I’m glad we’re talking about it because I DESPISE the climbing structures for the sloths. They are so enormous and clunky and obvious. I want to build an enormous tropical house, and create the illusion that the sloths have free reign of the place. My only options at the moment are to put down one WE in one section of the house and have the climbing frame stick out like a sore thumb OR place multiple WE all over the house and drastically reduce my creative freedom, and make it look like the most clunky and man made tropical house in the world.
I would’ve been happy had we got like two wooden poles and a rope that stretch from one corner of the WE to the opposite, and from there have the option to toggle in some more enrichment. At the moment, the minimum option is already too busy.
Please, I’m begging Frontier to change the sloth frame. Or, give us the Two Toed with a whole different climbing frame. PLEASE!
I would’ve been happy had we got like two wooden poles and a rope that stretch from one corner of the WE to the opposite, and from there have the option to toggle in some more enrichment. At the moment, the minimum option is already too busy.
Please, I’m begging Frontier to change the sloth frame. Or, give us the Two Toed with a whole different climbing frame. PLEASE!
This is what I meant
I was trying to think of some animal that works as a WE and melipona bees came to mind, for those who don't know them, they are stingless bees and incapable of stinging someone, they are also endemic bees to the Yucatan Peninsula and Central America.
My local zoo (Yucatan, Mexico) has 8 species of these bees as WE animals, they are in a garden where you can go in and see them make honey and fly around you, like butterflies!! so it would be a good WE animal, I'll try to go to the zoo this week and show its exhibit
My local zoo (Yucatan, Mexico) has 8 species of these bees as WE animals, they are in a garden where you can go in and see them make honey and fly around you, like butterflies!! so it would be a good WE animal, I'll try to go to the zoo this week and show its exhibit
I feel like this is a sentiment that gets repeated a lot but... do we have an indication that it wouldn't work for smaller animals?
Sure, climbing isn't perfect. I think there isn't a single person who would deny that. But there doesn't seem to be an indication that it has anything to do with the size of the animal. The smaller animals that climb (lemurs, capuchin) so far seem to be fine. Not perfect, again we all know, but they don't seem to be worse than bigger animals. Size really doesn't seem to have an impact.
Regardless of that, there have been several improvements to climbing in recent animals. Fossa, lar gibbon, raccoon etc. have all climbed a lot better than earlier animals. So like, even if there would be hurdles, I have full confidence in Frontier that they would be able to tackle those.
Yeah the lemurs are small but a common marmoset for example is still 10% off that. I mean those monkeys are not only small, they are borderline microscopic.
And yeah maybe Frontier could probably make them climb properly. I just feel they are to tiny and would look out of place.
Common marmoset are at their largest 20 cm and the meerkat at their smallest 26cm. So like, the actual size difference ingame (because let's face it, pure in terms of game mechanic they can and probably would make them slightly bigger) is not that much. I wouldn't at all say they're microscopic. Same goes for tamarins really, the Golden-headed Lion Tamarin can reach up to 30cm in length so it would be very close to the meerkat in terms of ingame size.
Given that meerkats are habitat species and the game has made previous smaller monkeys habitat animals and therefor don't require the walkthrough exhibit as a way to bypass the animations needed to portray it realistically; I'm inclined to say that based on the logic Frontier used so far that these animals should be habitat animals.
And I tend to agree with that. The entire thing about Planet Zoo from the start has been about customization and only if they had no other way they went for more static solutions like the walkthrough exhibits. Yes, they can be nulled to an extant, but they are by no means as flexible as habitat building is in this game.
At the end of the day, to each their own, I can understand people just wanting them in walkthrough exhibits, but honestly, I don't see a reason for it based on what we have in the game right now.
Half of that is tail
And? Meerkats have long tails too, I really don't see the issue here
It's not like this all of a sudden takes away the other things I've pointed out.Again, this doesn't take away from anyone's want to have these as walkthrough animals, you do you, but size clearly isn't a metric Frontier has been using for their decision making when it comes to exhibits (meerkat, prairie dog, dwarf caiman, iguana, etc.)
I don't even know why people think tamarins would be good walkthrough animals, irl they are quite aggressive and territorial against humans, normally biting and scrathing if someone comes to close. That's just walkthrough giant anteater level of dumb.
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I'm pretty sure this next pack will be a desert animal pack. I'm thinking a few desert small birds. Desert Sparrow, Cactus Wren, Costa's Hummingbird, Verdin, and Sandgrouse.