Walkthrough Exhibits: What's Next?

[Eletan888]

Sloths are a difficult one to approach because there is plenty of sloths in exhibit style rooms with a viewing panel and of course plenty in much larger diverse habitats

I think you could accomplish both by just making them a habitat animal. There is so much more customization, and we have walkthrough habitats. To me, making them WE animals just holds them back.

Personally for me, the current walkthrough exhibits are great for bats and butterflies, and maybe some small birds. But I really think we need more customizable enclosures for larger birds.

 

[Pentoleaf]

I had a zoo-themed dream last night. Now, I highly doubt this would ever happen for obvious reasons, but in my dream the update notes for the winter dlc were so scanty because the spring update moved us to build 2.0 which combined the exhibit and habitat markets into a tab, with some species (like the iguana and caimans) being placable in exhibits, walk through exhibits, and habitats, and more inter-species exhibit possibilities.

We also got an auto-roof tool for structures, a bunch of fish, and a new pond-type exhibit for fish/frogs/turtles etc.

Ot was a pretty great dream

 

[yoav_r]

Sloths are a difficult one to approach because there is plenty of sloths in exhibit style rooms with a viewing panel and of course plenty in much larger diverse habitats

You can make the large habitats using WEs and null walls. I'd rather sloths be WEs so they don't walk sround and break immersion all the time.

The animals that break immersion are hard to use for me. I barely use the Koala and Orangutan for that reason.

 

[Eletan888]

You can make the large habitats using WEs and null walls. I'd rather sloths be WEs so they don't walk sround and break immersion all the time.

The animals that break immersion are hard to use for me. I barely use the Koala and Orangutan for that reason.

I REALLY dont think that sloths would behave the same as koalas. Frontier I think has improved significantly since then with their animals. I admit, the climbing animations in game are a bit lackluster and quite choppy. But I really believe that if Frontier can do brachiation, that they can program an animal to stay on a climbing frame 24/7. They also know that's what the community expects. I also don't see Frontier going the WE route with a mammal that's larger than some of the habitat mammals in game. It would be seem really out of place (this may just be a me thing), and the restrictions would show themselves quickly. I mean, I want to build a walkthrough South American dome, with galapagos tortoises, capuchin monkeys running over head, and sloths greeting you at the entrance. It would be frustrating if they were only confined to a WE exhibit with potentially only small birds and butterflies being the only species capable of cohabitation.

I think the addition of sloths is inevitable, and I'm fully confident that Frontier has the ability to make them behave realistically. Heck, they might even be the flagship of a pack, which most of the time, are the animals that Frontier puts a ton of effort into.

 

[NZFanatic]

build 2.0

That would just be a sequel.

 

[Pentoleaf]

That would just be a sequel.

Like I said, it was a literal dream.

 

[NZFanatic]

Like I said, it was a literal dream.

 

[Veah]

I REALLY dont think that sloths would behave the same as koalas. Frontier I think has improved significantly since then with their animals. I admit, the climbing animations in game are a bit lackluster and quite choppy. But I really believe that if Frontier can do brachiation, that they can program an animal to stay on a climbing frame 24/7. They also know that's what the community expects.

If that would be true, they could improve the already existing animals. Instead of that, we are still waiting they add brachiation to the orangutan, which would be the most basic improvement in that regard.

I also don't see Frontier going the WE route with a mammal that's larger than some of the habitat mammals in game. It would be seem really out of place (this may just be a me thing), and the restrictions would show themselves quickly.

We already have exhibit animals larger than habitat animals. Iguanas weigh 10x times the size of a meerkat.

I mean, I want to build a walkthrough South American dome, with galapagos tortoises, capuchin monkeys running over head, and sloths greeting you at the entrance. It would be frustrating if they were only confined to a WE exhibit with potentially only small birds and butterflies being the only species capable of cohabitation.

You already can mix WE and habitat animals with the null walls! I haven't yet done it myself, but just a few days after Twilight pack release I saw a video of an habitat with a tapir walking surrounded by bats. So you don't need to be frustrated by that.

 

[Eletan888]

If that would be true, they could improve the already existing animals. Instead of that, we are still waiting they add brachiation to the orangutan, which would be the most basic improvement in that regard.



We already have exhibit animals larger than habitat animals. Iguanas weigh 10x times the size of a meerkat.



You already can mix WE and habitat animals with the null walls! I haven't yet done it myself, but just a few days after Twilight pack release I saw a video of an habitat with a tapir walking surrounded by bats. So you don't need to be frustrated by that.

We already know Frontier rarely touches already released animals. I'm not excepting them to go back and fix anything at this point.

I was specifically referring to mammals.

There's still a lack of costumizability. The traversalable area would be strictly related to a rectangular box at a particular size. That would be so annoying. The climbing frames and feeding stations would only set in certain places and they would unesscarily used looped animations.

I know nothing about game development but I am extremely confident that Frontier can make sloths a habitat animal. There animations are not that difficult compared to something like the siamang. They just sit on a climbing and barely move. Frontier recently increased the amount of time climbing and swimming animals carryout those behavior. Also, I just can't picture going into an exhibit tab to get a sloth, and than toggling back to the exhibit market to potentially get a marmoset. What?!? These WE are great, but they do have limitations.

 

[KellyL]

I had a zoo-themed dream last night. Now, I highly doubt this would ever happen for obvious reasons, but in my dream the update notes for the winter dlc were so scanty because the spring update moved us to build 2.0 which combined the exhibit and habitat markets into a tab, with some species (like the iguana and caimans) being placable in exhibits, walk through exhibits, and habitats, and more inter-species exhibit possibilities.

We also got an auto-roof tool for structures, a bunch of fish, and a new pond-type exhibit for fish/frogs/turtles etc.

Ot was a pretty great dream

That's a much better dream than the one in which a forum member dreamed we got 3 species of flounder and a generic owl.

 

[Pentoleaf]

That's a much better dream than the one in which a forum member dreamed we got 3 species of flounder and a generic owl.

I wish my dreams were that wacky.

 

[Peythur]

I actually hope we first do get some more butterflies before we get a new animal introduced to the Walkthrough Exhibits.

Butterflies I'd like to see added for a more diverse (tropical) Butterfly house are:

• Malachite
• Glasswing
• Owl
• Zebra longwing (or other longwings)
• Rice paper

Or maybe even huge moths like the Cecropia moth or the giant Atlas Moth, though they obviously rarely fly...

 

[DarthQuell]

So, I've been thinking, and maybe it's just a 1-time deal, but nonetheless I should throw it out:

Do y'all think that any future WE animals will get the butterfly treatment and come with multiples species? Like, take large parrots, aka macaws and cockatoos. Will they get a 5-in-1 type deal?

I don't think it's off the table, but I think it's a good point to bring up, if we haven't already

 

[Marvinb]

So, I've been thinking, and maybe it's just a 1-time deal, but nonetheless I should throw it out:

Do y'all think that any future WE animals will get the butterfly treatment and come with multiples species? Like, take large parrots, aka macaws and cockatoos. Will they get a 5-in-1 type deal?

I don't think it's off the table, but I think it's a good point to bring up, if we haven't already

Pretty sure the WE will be restricted to small animals in big numbers. With everything else the loops will get to obvious imo.

 

[MarikMoon]

Flying foxes! They're amazing and docile, perfect for a realistic walkthrough exhibit, and this choise also will improve the diversity of bats from PZ

 

[NZFanatic]

So, I've been thinking, and maybe it's just a 1-time deal, but nonetheless I should throw it out:

Do y'all think that any future WE animals will get the butterfly treatment and come with multiples species? Like, take large parrots, aka macaws and cockatoos. Will they get a 5-in-1 type deal?

I don't think it's off the table, but I think it's a good point to bring up, if we haven't already

Pretty sure the WE will be restricted to small animals in big numbers. With everything else the loops will get to obvious imo.

I agree with Marvin. I think the Walkthrough Exhibit species will generally be small, flocking animals that actually fly a lot in captivity, so no macaws or other big parrots, but probably smaller species like parakeets, lories, hummingbirds, bee-eaters, etc.

For the "butterfly treatment" there are some obvious contenders:

• Hummingbirds (often mixed in zoos, or used to be when they were more common).
• Australian finches (as these often crossover in territory and range).

That said we don't know what Frontier plans to do, obviously.

 

[TheDuckKnight]

I can understand the hesitation to add larger birds due potentially wonkiness in flight, but Frontier is just getting better and better with animation and innovation, and I can see macaws and raptors making their way to WEs eventually.

As for now, I'll echo that WE would be perfect for smaller birds like budgies, lorikeets, finches, and passerines. With that said though, there's still plenty of medium sized birds that I can see with the current mechanics including conures, cockatoos, smaller hornbills, kookaburras, frogmouths, and far and away the top choice of my WE wishlist - toucans.

 

[Spiderhawk]

So, I've been thinking, and maybe it's just a 1-time deal, but nonetheless I should throw it out:

Do y'all think that any future WE animals will get the butterfly treatment and come with multiples species? Like, take large parrots, aka macaws and cockatoos. Will they get a 5-in-1 type deal?

I don't think it's off the table, but I think it's a good point to bring up, if we haven't already

I really hope if there is a parakeet or small bird WE then I hope lorikeets and other like birds can join them.
Very grateful we got 5 butterfly's instead of just one and wait for another dlc

 

[DarthQuell]

Pretty sure the WE will be restricted to small animals in big numbers. With everything else the loops will get to obvious imo.

Maybe so. I agree with that point, but it's not entirely impossible, either

I agree with Marvin. I think the Walkthrough Exhibit species will generally be small, flocking animals that actually fly a lot in captivity, so no macaws or other big parrots, but probably smaller species like parakeets, lories, hummingbirds, bee-eaters, etc.

For the "butterfly treatment" there are some obvious contenders:

• Hummingbirds (often mixed in zoos, or used to be when they were more common).
• Australian finches (as these often crossover in territory and range).

That said we don't know what Frontier plans to do, obviously.

Could small parrots get the "treatment"? Like, I know they don't look exactly the same, but budgerigars, conures, lorikeets, and lovebirds are similar in general size and shape, so could they get in that way?

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

Im honest id rather get 5 different budgies then 5 different small parrots forced onto the same base model.
+ really i do believe that the butterflies are a one time thing as making different wing shapes and patterns seems less work intensive then moddeling 5 similar but different birds