I can see a Lot of people need this Motivation. Ideal Thing would be to make a big Update (PZ 2.0 instead of PZ 2 with Updates of some older Models) bringing a big new mechanic like flying or good climbing mechanics which is sold with a higher price. I am pretty sure that will never happen but as a Player from the beginning I do not see big benefits from a PZ 2 which potentially loses again some stuff we already have within the game. It is surely different for complete new players.
Fall DLC 2023 Speculation
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question for yall
When JWE ended support, did JWE 2 come with all the Dino’s from the 1st games dlc or did you still have to start buying dlc as if it was rebuying old dlc?
When JWE ended support, did JWE 2 come with all the Dino’s from the 1st games dlc or did you still have to start buying dlc as if it was rebuying old dlc?
JWE 2 comes with all the first game dinosaurs in the base game, with the dr. Wu hybrids and huayangosaurus being the exceptions, with the hybrids still missing and huayango in the deluxe edition.
Comming from the Sims franchise, I see a lot of benefits for starting over.
Animals could finally get personalities.
Climbing could be improved (too cost intensive for a free Update I assume),
better base game models, other new game mechanics...
Sequels make franchises survive, when done propperly.
underwater plant feeder though
Oh yeahhhhh. I thought it was updated for more animals to use it
I hope they will expand it to other aquatic herbivores like hippos.
Left out 3 hybrid dinosaurs all the others are present in the sequel so all the new dlcs are new species not seen before
Well, I feel it's save to say, a potential PZ 2 will NOT start with all DLC animals. JWE just had less animals in general.
Yeah I think it's kind of absurd to expect the complete PZ roster to start a sequel. They will still require attention-grabbing species to draw in new players, so there will inevitably be some held back from the base game. However, I think certain PZ DLC's, like the first four (Arctic, South America, Australia, Aquatic) will likely be present in some fashion in a sequel base game (along with probably some birds and some kind of semi-customisable aviary system like JWE2).
Yes, some for sure.
But at this point I don't see a PZ 2 happen soon. Especially not when the Coaster rumors are true.
That said, I also don't believe in new DLCs beyond this year and think there wilö be a cool down period of at least 2 years between the zoo sequels. Which honestly, I'm personally at peace with. We got way more animals than we ever thought and there are just a few controversial picks for me.
And one day I will create an antilope zoo, just for the irony.
I think a goat could be a very good headliner. In fact it could be considered they the lynx was chosen instead of the ibex for the Euro DLC just in case they needed a goat headliner later (while a second lynx is very unlikely).
Absolutely not. Not even if every species was very unique so that modders could make much more species form each one as "clones". Like getting just the scarlet macaw, maybe it could count on the long term as getting all the other macaws. But there are way more than 15 main body plans in birds or kinds of birds or whatever we call it.
The thing is we already have an exhibit designed specifically for animals with a flying mechanic. I'm pretty sure it wasn't made just for 1 bat and 4 butterflies, and there aren't many more kinds of flying animals left in zoos apart from birds...
Ey, but I really want at last one more species of all of these! Well maybe I'm happy enough with just one gorgeous donkey.
Yes, but I think there is more room for improvement from one Sim game to the next one. And not everything that they change is guaranteed to be better on the sequel. Maybe the base game models remain the same and they change the design for DLCs animals instead of the opposite, for example.
Also the newest game (Sims 4) is going to be 10 years before it gets a replacement. I could accept that, but in the overall I don't think the EA business strategy is what Frontier is talking about in their "develop, launch, nurture" model. They are probably in a middle ground between EA and Paradox.
Anyway, we will have confirmation in September, but having read the interim report it looks like they are going to squeeze the games they already have instead of launching new ones, because they have launched enough new games in the last years and there are some others about to be released or announced. Developing a new zoo sim game would be an unnecessary financial risk at the moment, as long as the DLCs remain profitable.
Starting without entire roster has one big flaw. Nothing is stopping modders from porting animals into sequel. Same could be said about scenry themes and foliage.
Imagine frontier is excluding nile lechwe at start. Give modders few weeks or less and nile lechwe is present at Leaf Production Mod Showcase.
Imagine frontier is excluding nile lechwe at start. Give modders few weeks or less and nile lechwe is present at Leaf Production Mod Showcase.
So what? Modders post species we get later officially in the game now all the time and the mods are just discontinued. And even if they weren't - out of respect to the company - the poop EA is pumping out (and it sells) vs. what modders do is the best proof that mods do not risk any revenue for a company.
The whole narrative of Modders vs. Frontier never made any sense.
I'll never understand why people place so much importance on modders. They're just hobbyists. The impact they have on the game, if any, is minimal. Considering Frontier doesn't even technically support modding, I really doubt they'll consider that at all when they build a sequel.
For me modders are people who play the game first and they are aware of aspects that can be improved, thanks to them we have base game remasters with a lot of additional variants, new animals, new paths, a ton of additional pieces and Freebuild that is the definitive mod for the builders.
I personally don't think their impact is minimal, at the end of the support (or even now for someone, me included) mods will carry the game until the sequel.
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But the space is not for other large birds of prey. In that exibith I can see lorikeets, macaws, toucans or cockatoos. Even various species like butterflies: Same model, small edit models and different textures.
Then include small birds of prey. Space problem solved.
I probably would miss something like bald eagle or andean condor, but barn owl, red-tailed hawk and egyptian vulture are neat as well.
I don't think so, it would also be a great sales enhancer to start with 200 species for example, maybe less, but the point is that if it contains all the iconic animals and more it would have a great impact.Also, everyone here would not agree with the decision to remove a current animal to see it in a dlc, possibly it will happen like in JWE2 where we got a Dino from the base game in the Deluxe edition, but honestly no more, JWE 2 start with the twice as many dinosaurs as when JWE 1 started