Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Viajero

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Viajero
LittleAnt said:
Exactly, it apply to every product, and SQ42 will be like every other product.
The SC "product" is not reviewed because, as you said, it's still an alpha! It's amazing you don't grasp that when you write it!!!! You don't like it and you desperately want it labeled "ready for review" but no, it's an alpha and it's not ready for review and the press know it.
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I think we have already discussed that point a few times before: SC is a released and full on commercialized product. Been the case for many years now. Alpha or pre alpha discussions are quite meaningless as everyone will have its own definition; these vague terms are simply exploited by CIG and related shills to try to prevent reviews and obfuscate the fact that this already released product simply sucks big time 🤷‍♂️

LittleAnt said:
Don't judge the quality of SQ42 using SC, nobody know the real state of SQ42.
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Except you it seems. You actually needed to asume the actual state of SQ42 had to be good enough to be worth of a new price tag (get good reviews etc) in order to rationalize why it has been removed from sale.
 
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Viajero said:
I think we have already discussed that point a few times before: SC is a released and full on commercialized product.
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So why there are no review in the press ? Maybe because video game journalists don't share your opinion :LOL:
You really think that CIG restricts all reviews ? Ho boy, they restrict nothing because no one review the alpha because... it's an alpha.
 

Viajero

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Viajero
LittleAnt said:
So why there are no review in the press ? Maybe because video game journalists don't share your opinion :LOL:
ause no one review the alpha because... it's an alpha.
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I mean, unless you think SC is not really released that does not make much sense. Or do you really believe SC is still an unreleased crowdfunded project?

CIG not being upfront for years about its released status and obfuscating that fact with such a vague term as alpha, even though the product is released and fully commercialized and accounted for as such, probably have a lot to do with why we have no reviews yet.
 
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Viajero

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LittleAnt said:
I had not judged its quality, only said that I think the beta is close.
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You did. And you never mentioned a beta, that is another funny backtracking though. You confirmed its quality had to be good enough to be worth of a price hike (so to avoid bad reviews and/or poor sales). You needed that to explain the removal from sale and it’s imminent release.

Why would you formally release SQ42 imminently if it was crap?
 
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Leadfoot

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cigwatch said:
I am kind of disappointed that Starfield's presentation didn't include am NPC standing on a chair, somewhere in the background, for watchful audience to discover.
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Well, there is one consolation. The descendant of the adoring fan from the ages of Elder Scrolls IV, Oblivion will be there to carry our books, weapons, shine or boots, polish the canopy, and make sandwiches for us, will be there. Praise Azura. 🤗
 

Cmdr Esteban

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thistle said:
All money pledged goes towards development of the game.
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Agony_Aunt said:
All money pledged goes towards development of the game.
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All money pledged goes towards development of the game.
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LittleAnt said:
Who are the "all" ? For the guys here thinking that SQ42 will never be out and that the beta stage is still 5 year away perhaps, but elsewhere that's not the case.


Absolutely no ! The vast majority of players don't buy alpha and, for a new IP, the vast majority of players don't buy it if they have not seen a video of full gameplay about it.
Like every other game, CIG will do a full presentation during a special event, will show a lot of gameplay and if everything is apealing, will sell a lot of pre-release and, if the game is good, a hell lot of copy at release. Do you really think every gamer on the market is aware that a SQ42 game is in development and everyone of them had already bought it while there is absolutely 0 promo made about it by CIG since several years ?
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LittleAnt said:
Lol

"The believers and haters hold a minority opinion" the vast majority of players simply have no opinion at all becaiuse they don't follow SC/SQ42 or even don't know they exist...

If the product is good and tested as good by the press, you can show up old archive post you want, the game will sell ! Simple as that.
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Through your own argument about the majority of gamers not being aware of SC or SQ42, pro-SC people also hold a minority opinion.
To put it another way, most people don't hate SC, they don't bother to care.
TiberiusDuval said:
Really? Some little things: SC,and SQ42, if I understand correctly are kind of "simulatorish" games. Something between realistic simulator and full arcade experience. In that regard like ED. Space games generally have quite limited audience, add to that the fact that you need relatively powerfull gaming PC to run them and number of possible customers get down quite fast. Quite likely most of people who would buy the game all ready have bought it. Even IF Squadron 42 would be best ever space combat single player game.
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Yeah, the majority of gamers will not but SC or SQ42 even if/when they are out. The majority of gamers are not into these kind of games. The ones who are interested had probably found out about it, because people interested in games look for games they llike. If they hadn't found out about SC and SQ42 by now after 10 years of talks, they're not likely into spending money on them. Take me for example, I have no interest in SQ42 and I still found out about it through SC, because SC is related to ED, the game I bought.
LittleAnt said:
...nobody know the real state of SQ42.
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and then
LittleAnt said:
I had not judged its quality, only said that I think the beta is close.
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What makes you think its close to beta, since "nobody know the real state of SQ42"?
LittleAnt said:
(note : SF is limited at 30fps on console, sure it will be also need a powerfull gaming PC)
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One is strictly PC only and you chose to compare it to the console version of the other?
Starfield system requirements are out, can't say the same for SC or SQ42 since they're not finalized.
LittleAnt said:
To keep the funding up. And your are correct, it's not about releasing a product but 2 products.
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The Chairman said they have all the money to finish the game way back when, and weren't the recent talk of release a Minimum Viable Product? Why would they need furthur funding? You can't expand the scope of an MVP.
Navigare Necesse Est said:
Comparing the methods of deposting cash: There is no difference giving mpney to SC and throwing money in the trash can.
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Throwing it in the trash, someone might find it and get some use out of it. Throwing it at SC is, I don't know, put money in the blender, drink it and tells everyone its the best milkshake you've ever tasted.
 
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