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Not really...since we're all pretty much aware that the removal of Sqn 404 from the RSI store has very little to do with a 'price increase' or any 'imminent' announcement of release.
Who are the "all" ? For the guys here thinking that SQ42 will never be out and that the beta stage is still 5 year away perhaps, but elsewhere that's not the case.

Practically every copy Ci~G will ever sell of Sqn 404 has already been sold (or given away)..
Absolutely no ! The vast majority of players don't buy alpha and, for a new IP, the vast majority of players don't buy it if they have not seen a video of full gameplay about it.
Like every other game, CIG will do a full presentation during a special event, will show a lot of gameplay and if everything is apealing, will sell a lot of pre-release and, if the game is good, a hell lot of copy at release. Do you really think every gamer on the market is aware that a SQ42 game is in development and everyone of them had already bought it while there is absolutely 0 promo made about it by CIG since several years ?
 
Who are the "all" ? For the guys here thinking that SQ42 will never be out and that the beta stage is still 5 year away perhaps, but elsewhere that's not the case.
So the small group of people elsewhere who have been consistently wrong since 2012 thinking beta is less than 5 years away?

Remember that when Star Citizen / Squadron 42 comes up on public forums it gets ridiculed. The believers hold a minority opinion.
 
LOL, PES is so great commandos are taking screenshots of their fleets because they lost their ships after following CI's instructions on how not to lose their ships.

#notascam

 
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LOL, PES is so great commandos are taking screenshots of their fleets because they lost their ships after following CI's instructions on how not to lose their ships.

#notascam

Que pesa?
 
So the small group of people elsewhere who have been consistently wrong since 2012 thinking beta is less than 5 years away?

Remember that when Star Citizen / Squadron 42 comes up on public forums it gets ridiculed. The believers hold a minority opinion.
Lol

"The believers and haters hold a minority opinion" the vast majority of players simply have no opinion at all becaiuse they don't follow SC/SQ42 or even don't know they exist...

If the product is good and tested as good by the press, you can show up old archive post you want, the game will sell ! Simple as that.
 
LOL, PES is so great commandos are taking screenshots of their fleets because they lost their ships after following CI's instructions on how not to lose their ships.

#notascam

I've lost all my ships except my Aurora. CIG said they are investigating, I will see if they correct this problem.
 

Viajero

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If the product is good and tested as good by the press, you can show up old archive post you want, the game will sell ! Simple as that.
That is a bit of a useless truism I am afraid. Applies to any product. The thing here is that it has been the case for over a decade already for SC and the product is still so crap that CIG is trying to avoid at all costs those press reviews you mentioned (alpha!) even though the game has already been released (in early access).

There is no particular reason, and not much tangible info to go by either, to believe SQ42 is going to fair any better though. Concluding as you do that it’s going to launch imminently, nevermind that is going to get good reviews, from the fact that it has been withdrawn from sale is a bit of a stretch.
 
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Absolutely no ! The vast majority of players don't buy alpha and, for a new IP, the vast majority of players don't buy it if they have not seen a video of full gameplay about it.
Like every other game, CIG will do a full presentation during a special event, will show a lot of gameplay and if everything is apealing, will sell a lot of pre-release and, if the game is good, a hell lot of copy at release. Do you really think every gamer on the market is aware that a SQ42 game is in development and everyone of them had already bought it while there is absolutely 0 promo made about it by CIG since several years ?
Really? Some little things: SC,and SQ42, if I understand correctly are kind of "simulatorish" games. Something between realistic simulator and full arcade experience. In that regard like ED. Space games generally have quite limited audience, add to that the fact that you need relatively powerfull gaming PC to run them and number of possible customers get down quite fast. Quite likely most of people who would buy the game all ready have bought it. Even IF Squadron 42 would be best ever space combat single player game.
 
Really? Some little things: SC,and SQ42, if I understand correctly are kind of "simulatorish" games. Something between realistic simulator and full arcade experience. In that regard like ED. Space games generally have quite limited audience, add to that the fact that you need relatively powerfull gaming PC to run them and number of possible customers get down quite fast. Quite likely most of people who would buy the game all ready have bought it. Even IF Squadron 42 would be best ever space combat single player game.
True, but it's 11 years and old audiences fade out and new appear. Demographics aren't static and new gullibers crop up every new year.
 
That is a bit of a useless truism I am afraid. Applies to any product
...the product is still so crap that CIG is trying to avoid at all costs those press reviews you mentioned (alpha!)
Exactly, it apply to every product, and SQ42 will be like every other product.
The SC "product" is not reviewed because, as you said, it's still an alpha! It's amazing you don't grasp that when you write it!!!! You don't like it and you desperately want it labeled "ready for review" but no, it's an alpha and it's not ready for review and the press know it.
Don't judge the quality of SQ42 using SC, nobody know the real state of SQ42.

Really? Some little things: SC,and SQ42, if I understand correctly are kind of "simulatorish" games. Something between realistic simulator and full arcade experience. In that regard like ED. Space games generally have quite limited audience, add to that the fact that you need relatively powerfull gaming PC to run them and number of possible customers get down quite fast. Quite likely most of people who would buy the game all ready have bought it. Even IF Squadron 42 would be best ever space combat single player game.
Everyone say Starfield is a direct competitor to SQ42. Just look at how "limited" the pre sales of SF are :LOL: ... (note : SF is limited at 30fps on console, sure it will be also need a powerfull gaming PC). If SF sells well and hooks a lot of new players to the space game genre, it will also directly benefit SQ42.
You seems also to forget that the marketing team of CIG is good, that they will have a nice budget at the release of SQ42 and that they can use pretty wel known actors to sell the new IP (mark hamill, Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, etc).
 
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Everyone say Starfield is a direct competitor to SQ42. Just look at how "limited" the pre sales of SF are :LOL: ... (note : SF is limited at 30fps on console, sure it will be also need a powerfull gaming PC). If SF sells well and hooks a lot of new players to the space game genre, it will also directly benefit SQ42.
You seems also to forget that the marketing team of CIG is good, that they will have a nice budget at the release of SQ42 and that they can use pretty wel known actors to sell the new IP (mark hamill, Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, etc).

SF is rather more arcade experience if I understand correctly. Simple question for SC players, lets have a noob without any flight sim experience, can one master flying in SC within lets say a day, using gamepad or mouse&keyboard only? I mean for ED I say quite likely no, even with all nowadays default aids.
 
Exactly, it apply to every product, and SQ42 will be like every other product.
The SC "product" is not reviewed because, as you said, it's still an alpha! It's amazing you don't grasp that when you write it!!!! You don't like it and you desperately want it labeled "ready for review" but no, it's an alpha and it's not ready for review and the press know it.
Don't judge the quality of SQ42 using SC, nobody know the real state of SQ42.


Everyone say Starfield is a direct competitor to SQ42. Just look at how "limited" the pre sales of SF are :LOL: ... (note : SF is limited at 30fps on console, sure it will be also need a powerfull gaming PC). If SF sells well and hooks a lot of new players to the space game genre, it will also directly benefit SQ42.
You seems also to forget that the marketing team of CIG is good, that they will have a nice budget at the release of SQ42 and that they can use pretty wel known actors to sell the new IP (mark hamill, Gary Oldman, Gillian Anderson, etc).
you're arguing on the state of this scam like someone's who wants to believe in afterlife arguing about the unknowable afterlife...

btw, starfield will be dominated by skyrim, rdr2, cyberpunk 77, assassins creed gamers and the likes, it's an open world rpg first and not even attempting to be a space sim game, it's a mainstream oriented rpg that just happen to be set in space not elite or wing commander or freespace with space legs...
 
you're arguing on the state of this scam like someone's who wants to believe in afterlife arguing about the unknowable afterlife...

btw, starfield will be dominated by skyrim, rdr2, cyberpunk 77, assassins creed gamers and the likes, it's an open world rpg first and not even attempting to be a space sim game, it's a mainstream oriented rpg that just happen to be set in space not elite or wing commander or freespace with space legs...
Well, we don't really know yet :) Let's wait and play it first to see what that game is.
 
Absolutely no ! The vast majority of players don't buy alpha and, for a new IP, the vast majority of players don't buy it if they have not seen a video of full gameplay about it.
Okay but the vast majority of players won't be buying SQ42 in any case, because it will be a) released* and b) reviewed.

*theoretically, as it won't ever come out
 
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