No, but that's cool! I'm not a wildlife major, but I love animal facts. The crested and new world "porcupines" both seem so different that I'm not surprised. Hopefully we will see both!
Analyzing required animals by Taxonomical group
Cant speak for every european but in my language they arent called porcupines ironically enough
We are now on the third row of this chart. NEXT STOP SOUTH AMERIAN TAPIR
I made this chart in he context of this thread, not the wishlist. But yeah neither is highly requested. The sumatran rhino would've likely been much more popular if it had actual captive population.
We still need some Asian antelopes for sure and honestly there is still more African species too... Just a group you can keep pulling from forever really. Equines and rhinos are done. We could still do with more small cats. I'd still like more South American camelids. We definitely dont need another old world porcupine. Idk enough about snakes.
Rhinos and old world porcupines are absolutely perfect now, and in my eyes any additional members of either group would be an active detriment to the roster. Camelids probably should be as well, but I wouldn’t be outright opposed to the guanaco or alpaca showing their heads one day. Equines I’m mixed on - I still wouldn’t say no to Grevy's zebra or a domestic species (preferably donkey), but it’s hard to actively cheer for them at this point. Antelopes and small cats are basically always welcome, though. Zoos often exhibit so many of both groups, and there’s still a few of each I’d consider genuinely essential: serval, ocelot, fishing cat, and to a lesser extent Pallas’s cat; and then the greater kudu or common eland (preference kudu), a duiker, and maybe a small species in the klipspringer/dik-dik are all still fairly essential. Of course, given that we plausibly have as few as two packs remaining at this point, I can’t say I expect more than maybe one more cat at best.
Tell that to Spectacled caiman. 0 votes.
Also for the groups:
Equine - done
Rhinos - pls no more
Antelope - we got 2 but it's representation is still unchanged for me since the both cover the same range as the oryx (before extinction) and aren't morphologically unique. I mean I wanted blackbuck but now I'm sick of antelopes.
Camelids - done, another wouldn't be bad though
Felines - done, again wouldn't mind other, specifically a new world one
Crested porcupines - done
Snakes - done, I think one more was needed and I'll take the viper
1. Antelopes - I probably need at least one smaller/forest-dwelling species like a dik-dik or duiker, and the blackbuck would be good as well. Other than those, I am fine.
2. Equines - I'm good now.
3. Rhinos - Same as with equines.
4. Small cats - I'd like a handful more, ideally for different biomes - the European wildcat, margay and fishing cat would suit me fine.
5. Camelids - I'm good for them now.
6. Old World porcupines - I would personally really like a species of brush-tailed porcupine - the African is more commonly-kept, but the Asiatic would add a new continent for porcupines. Cannot decide to exact species level.
7. Vipers - Would love to see some more vipers, such as the eyelash viper, bushmaster and gaboon viper.
Equine: Done, wouldnt be mad about a pony in a petting zoo pack tho
Rhinos: Done, 2 was already plenty for me
Antelope: Still think dik dik, generuk, blackbuck would bring something new to PZ
Camels: Done, but same as with equines i wouldnt complain about an alpaca in a petting zoo
Felines: Meh, i think 1 more small one would be neat, like margay
OW porcupines: Super done
Vipers: Done, if we get any more snakes it should be either a cobra or python of some sort
Rhinos: Done, 2 was already plenty for me
Antelope: Still think dik dik, generuk, blackbuck would bring something new to PZ
Camels: Done, but same as with equines i wouldnt complain about an alpaca in a petting zoo
Felines: Meh, i think 1 more small one would be neat, like margay
OW porcupines: Super done
Vipers: Done, if we get any more snakes it should be either a cobra or python of some sort
I'm glad that Planet Zoo's going to have dromedary camel, wild ass and crested porcupine. Can't wait to check out the compatibilities if they have. Probably the cat won't have compatibilities since most Felid mammals were predators instead of vegetarians.
Now there's only two to three more species and subspecies I hoped for Planet Zoo to have.
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1. I think we need at least one Asian species (blackbuck has the highest chance in my opinion) and one small antelope (dik dik or duiker) and I wouldn't be mad about a gerenuk, eland or kudu but I don't think these are that necessary.
2. A domestic equine like a shetland pony would be cool.
3. Done. We got all three rhinos which exist in captivity (not counting the Sumatran rhinos in the breeding centres), we definitely don't need any more.
4. I think we need one or two more, at least one South/Central American species like ocelot or margay.
5. One of the two wild new world camelids would be great to have, I would prefer the vicuna.
6. We are done.
7. Maybe a gaboon viper but I'd prefer a cobra and python over another viper.
I think they are complete except the antelopes. IMO it needs a bigger version such as a nilgai which would also be nice in adding an antelope to India. With the addition of Addax we now have a species that occurred outside Africa, albeit historically. Common Eland could work for the big antelope. We could also use a small antelope like a dik dik or klipspringer or four-horned antelope.
1. Saiga, Gerenuk, maybe Blackbuck are all worthy. Need more Asian representation.
2. Done.
3. Please no more.
4. Wouldn't mind ocelot, but not necessary.
5. Not needed
6. Much rather have echidna instead.
7. NO, need a cobra and maybe python.
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1. Antelopes: Haters gonna hate but we still need at least one antelope from Asia. This is really essential. As everybody probably knows by now, I'm rooting for the nilgai but I feel like most people prefer the blackbuck- which would be a valid choice too. Honestly, it would be great to get both to satisfy everyone. African antelopes are getting less essential by now but I still would like at least the giant eland.
2. Equines: Done but think the Grevy's Zebra could be nice to have.
3. Rhinos: Done.
4. Small cats: Done. I would not be mad if we got the ocelot or fishing cat but really not necessary.
5. Camelids: Done.
6. Old world porcupines: Why is this even a question? Done. Would like to get the NA porcupine though.
7. Vipers: Wouldn't mind having more (especially gaboon viper) but I think it's more important to get other types of snakes now (emerald tree boa being the most important one for me, a cobra...)
Honestly nothing changed really
The only essential antelopes were the black buck and nilgai, maybe a small one so while the two from the pack are very nice, antelopes remain just as well represented as before but now with a bit more variety for north africa.
Equines are neat to have a wild variant for all 3 types, but really whats missing here wasnt deliverd as any domestic horse or donkey is missing from the game.
Rhinos were allready complete regarding what needs to be in the game, but now we got a choice for african rhino and all 3 species actually found in zoos, with only the sumatran as a controversial pick to be somewhat realisticly added left.
Small cats got a good boon by actually getting a small one now. A south american cat in the margay or ocelot is still missing but afterwards id call the group complete regarding gameplay purposes.
Camelids are more or less complete. The alpaca and one or both wild versions would be really nice, but they really arnt nessecary for the game.
Having an old world porcupine completes the old world porcupines, as they all look pretty much the same anyways.
Viper is an exhibit animal and of my concern, no take here if we need more vipers
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New Niche for the game (essential): Martens, the game lacks dedicated climbers and martens would fill this void greatly with a new body type. Yellow throated and beech would be my preferred choices with their large ranges, one covering eastern and the other western eurasia, but the pine marten would also be an allright choice.
New Niche for Mustelids (good): This category goes very big and very small, featuring the wolverine and polecats or ferrets. The wolverine would be great for covering 3 continents at once and being arguably one of the last 2 arctic creatures missing from the game, the other being the musk ox, but it pretty much only fills the role of mid to small size carnivoran, a niche with plenty of coverage allready. Arctic Fox, European Badger and the twillight pack trio overlapp with it enclosure wise quite a bit, but its still unique enough to be a pretty good inclusion even if we only have 12 habitat slots left.
Polecats are tiny carnivores with a unique bodyplan, which is pretty dope, but at the same time we allready got quite a few temperate small terrestrial carnivores so whilebid love to see them and would defenetly prefer them over any cat or dog, they arnt really needed.
Also shoutout to the honeybadger for having a great range of africa, middle east and india, but facing the same struggle of mid to small size carnivores allready in the game making it together with its only very minor presence in rl zoos to be an animal we could very well do without.
Id also put the tayra and grisons here, but while the tayra especally is becomming an increasingly common zoo animal in europe over the last years they simply feel to unknown and also just not what south america would need to feel more complete.
They are good and would defenetly help but they also wouldnt actually fix the problems of the region as south america suffers mostly from a lack of quite a few key animals (atleast 3 more monkeys, coati, mara, scarlet ibis, macaws) instead of general more wonky animals like the tayra.
Meh:
Another otter pretty much. I wouldnt mind the eurasian otter or the sea otter in theory, BUT at the same time id rather have many many other clones, mostly monkeys, birds and reptiles, before we need that 3. Otter
No coatis in the essential climbers group?
Arnt they there own unique things with racoons?
But if we group them together yeah defenetly easily the most essential addition from these animals as lacking arboreal animals for eurasia is underwhelming but fine, while the fact that we only have one arboreal south american animal is a crime