Game Discussions Bethesda Softworks Starfield Space RPG

Not for everyone, especially the Microsoft account paranoiacs'...
I belong to that "mind your own business" crowd, but I bit the bullet to play MSFS2020, which requires a Microsoft / XBox account (I think they are one in the same these days) to play. What bothers me about Starfield is that it seems you need to "log in" to play it, despite it being an offline single-player game. That annoys me to no end, because I don't always have good Internet. Rockstar does the same thing with RDR2, and it's a much-hated feature by many.

but if you have both a PC and Xbox or have family (or close friends) who play on the Xbox or PC,
I don't have an XBox, but buying one is not out of the question if for some reason I can't get Starfield to work on my PC. I also like the idea of removing Steam from the equation. It's one thing when Steam replaces another launcher, but lately games seem to daisy-chain launchers (ESO, RDR2, MSFS, ED, etc), which just adds extra points of failure and overhead.

Because of my dislike for launchers and giant downloads and online authentication to play single-player games, I'd be tempted to grab a "Starfield XBox" bundle on holiday sale, where the game is pre-installed and / or comes on physical media, just to avoid all the hassle. Then again, a great promise of Starfield is the mods, and AFAIK even XBox cannot compete with PC when it comes to mods.
 
Shouldn't need one with a hard copy of Starfield...assuming there isn't a required login to Xbox game services (on PC) or Steam to play of course (in the likelihood of a day one patch or further digital updates). In which case I suspect you'll need a free MS or Steam account to do so. There undoubtably will be further (and clearer) instructions inside the boxed version when it arrives.

Hard copies of PC games these days are usually identical to the downloadable ones, with the same persistent DRM clients (e.g. Steam). You're getting more physical waste with no practical benefits; they're pretty much purely collectors items, unless they come with meaningful paper documentation (and most don't).

So the thing that I want to avoid is having a 'Windows account' - which appears to be enforced in Windows 11. I've read the help pages for countering/ignoring that and was wondering that, with Bethesda and MS being 'friends' that with my smart watch pre-order I might be 'forced' into this whole thing. Like I said, not au faix with Windows...

I'm up to two Windows 11 systems now, neither of which have a Microsoft Account associated with them.

I would also be very surprised if the Steam version of the game needed one.

I belong to that "mind your own business" crowd, but I bit the bullet to play MSFS2020, which requires a Microsoft / XBox account (I think they are one in the same these days) to play. What bothers me about Starfield is that it seems you need to "log in" to play it, despite it being an offline single-player game. That annoys me to no end, because I don't always have good Internet. Rockstar does the same thing with RDR2, and it's a much-hated feature by many.

It will be cracked eventually, and there is nothing illegal in most jurisdictions about cracking a game you have a license to, even if it's against the EULA, which usually have a slew of legally unenforceable prohibitions.

There is no way in hell Starfield is going on any of my non-communal systems (the HTPC can remain the household cesspit that I just erase any time it gets cluttered enough to really annoy me) until it's been dissected by cracking groups and I can run it entirely offline with a tiny Steam emulator.

Difficult to resist the launchers or accounts, you will at some point end up jumping through so many hoops it's getting annoying.

Crossed that point 25 years ago.

It comes down to the flavor of annoyance one finds least bitter. Personally, I usually just do without until DRM is bypassed or patched out, but I have enough systems that if I get something for free, or if someone whose account I have access to will be getting it anyway, I'm willing to tolerate the clients/storefronts on one of them.

Anyone else think about people complaining about a game company on THIS forum? Hilarious is a word that comes to mind, but that's just me I guess.

I'm not giving Bethesda any special treatment. I rip on Frontier and everyone else for all of their very real failings as well.
 
Hard copies of PC games these days are usually identical to the downloadable ones, with the same persistent DRM clients (e.g. Steam). You're getting more physical waste with no practical benefits; they're pretty much purely collectors items, unless they come with meaningful paper documentation (and most don't).

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Last hard copies I got were just a card inside the box with an authentication code for the purchase. Mass Effect Andromeda, I believe. Same with Steam - gosh I don't even remember which one I got last as hard copy.
 
According to the Game product page you’ll be wanting to get Steam installed:
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Thanks.

So luckily I already have Steam. I didn't have a Game.co.uk account so decided to create one - seems I originally ordered the game but didn't create an account.

Then I log into said Game account, go to "Orders" and it says... "You have not placed any orders yet". What?! Same email has a Game email saying I HAVE paid for it...

I tried getting my Downloads page and they said they'd send me an email link - it didn't appear - I did check my spam and junk email too.

Can anyone point me in the right direction, please? I am confused...
 
Damn. I checked my bank statements for the date I ordered it and that money didn't go out of my account.

Perhaps my bank blocked it.

Think I'll not be getting the smart watch after all!
 
Damn. I checked my bank statements for the date I ordered it and that money didn't go out of my account.

Perhaps my bank blocked it.

Think I'll not be getting the smart watch after all!
DON'T PANIC! Mine hasn't been paid for yet either. I have all the details from PayPal and no money has changed hands yet. It will come out of your account up to 7 days before release according to Game.
 
Damn. I checked my bank statements for the date I ordered it and that money didn't go out of my account.

Perhaps my bank blocked it.

Think I'll not be getting the smart watch after all!
wow, you can purchase it again, if you're purchasing it outside your country you maybe need to unlock your card to be used international?
 
DON'T PANIC! Mine hasn't been paid for yet either. I have all the details from PayPal and no money has changed hands yet. It will come out of your account up to 7 days before release according to Game.
Thanks Doog - I found that yeah, payment won't be taken for a while. Problem is I don't know how to get this game! It doesn't really matter - my GTX 1080 laptop can't play it anyway. I am just suffering from FOMO lol and wondering how to go about this...

wow, you can purchase it again, if you're purchasing it outside your country you maybe need to unlock your card to be used international?
Yeah I hopefully won't have to go down this route.

I think what this boils down to is that I can't download it yet because it's associated with the physical purchase - which is not the same as getting a digital-only purchase. Time will tell. FOMO will have to set in and I'll get ready to watch all your youtube videos...
 
I think what this boils down to is that I can't download it yet because it's associated with the physical purchase - which is not the same as getting a digital-only purchase. Time will tell. FOMO will have to set in and I'll get ready to watch all your youtube videos...
I'm hoping Game will send us the Steam keys after they have taken our money. If not, when the box arrives I'll play with the watch while it's installing.
 
Similar brief loading pause has already been noticed when entering a building in the preview, so not really a surprise.

Pretty standard for Bethesda games. Most houses in Skyrim, Fallout 4, Fallout 76 etc. are behind a small loading screen. Nothing suprising and no big deal. Looks like you can still get some sort of "Armstrong moment light" when you walk down that ramp and step on to a new planet (since the leading screen happens still "inside" your ship)
 
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