Cenozoic DLC pack

DragonNTiger

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DuskyHaddock said:
Ok then, Metriacanthosaurus for example then...
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Metriacanthosaurus is a theropod dinosaur... even with what little is known, that's pretty conclusive which makes a basic restoration possible... and let's not pretend Metriacanthosaurus was added for any reason beyond the claim that it's a canon addition.

Andrewsarchus is a... what now? Oh that's right, we don't know... nowadays we think it might be an entelodont, but that remains inconclusive; some think it might be closer to hippos. And even if it were an entelodont, it would make way more sense to go with something obvious, with a reliable restoration like Entelodon. There's literally no reason to prioritize Andrewsarchus other than some outdated restoration that's no longer considered valid.

The Carcharodontogenius said:
I meant carnivorous as well.
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Megatherium are thought by some to be omnivorous... speaking of omnivores, entelodonts like Daeodon were pretty big and probably enough to take on a Smilodon.

If you're looking for true carnivores, the bear dog Amphicyon or the creodont Hyaenodon may have been a match for a Smilodon, especially considering how specialized a Smilodon is.
 
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Ceratosaurus

Ceratosaurus
DragonNTiger said:
Metriacanthosaurus is a theropod dinosaur... even with what little is known, that's pretty conclusive which makes a basic restoration possible... and let's not pretend Metriacanthosaurus was added for any reason beyond the claim that it's a canon addition.

Andrewsarchus is a... what now? Oh that's right, we don't know... nowadays we think it might be an entelodont, but that remains inconclusive; some think it might be closer to hippos. And even if it were an entelodont, it would make way more sense to go with something obvious, with a reliable restoration like Entelodon. There's literally no reason to prioritize Andrewsarchus other than some outdated restoration that's no longer considered valid.
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Back to my previous comment, it still doesn't take into consideration that we still could be wrong with their structural designs... Unless you were there to see them or have sufficient evidence saying so, e.g. Trilobites and Ammonites with trace fossils, Ice fossils or a Rex's skeleton literally positioned together perfectly in the dirt, no one can entirely say how something looked million of years ago.

The Jurassic movies/game is based on fiction, part of the fun of the Jurassic universe is that we can do whatever with the designs and blame the "inaccuracies" on the rushed science InGen had created. The Metriacanthosaurus was only onscreen as name only, you can blame Frontier for the mistakes too if you're so bothered about it being guesswork on looks but that's also the beauty of it being fiction, in Jurassic World they claim "We've learned more from genetics in the past decade than a century of digging up bones...".

I don't see the big deal with making the species accurate when that's literally part of the plot.
Don't forget it's all Hollywood, next we'll complain that Tomb Raider is historically inaccurate...

If you want accurate go watch a documentary.
 
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The Carcharodontogenius

The Carcharodontogenius
DragonNTiger said:
Metriacanthosaurus is a theropod dinosaur... even with what little is known, that's pretty conclusive which makes a basic restoration possible... and let's not pretend Metriacanthosaurus was added for any reason beyond the claim that it's a canon addition.

Andrewsarchus is a... what now? Oh that's right, we don't know... nowadays we think it might be an entelodont, but that remains inconclusive; some think it might be closer to hippos. And even if it were an entelodont, it would make way more sense to go with something obvious, with a reliable restoration like Entelodon. There's literally no reason to prioritize Andrewsarchus other than some outdated restoration that's no longer considered valid.
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OK, calm down Dragon.
Does this model of Andrewsarchus satisfy you?
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If not then I will change from Andrewsarchus to Entelodon.
 
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DragonNTiger

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The Carcharodontogenius said:
OK, calm down Dragon.
Does this model of Andrewsarchus satisfy you?
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If not then I will change from Andrewsarchus to Entelodon.
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Not really... because, again, we can't say anything about what it even is... and prioritizing an animal with an unknown identity, when the animals we use to base these hypothetical restorations on are far better known, doesn't make sense. And since it's doubtful we'll be getting a lot of Cenozoic animals--assuming we get any at all--it makes even less sense to prioritize a mystery animal over animals we know with confidence.

Let me ask you something... what's your obsession with Andrewsarchus anyways? Because the only reasons I can think of are either discredited... or better covered by the alternatives.
 
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The Carcharodontogenius

The Carcharodontogenius
DragonNTiger said:
Let me ask you something... what's your obsession with Andrewsarchus anyways? Because the only reasons I can think of are either discredited... or better covered by the alternatives.
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I have no obsession. I'm just destined to know what it actually looked like.
I will now change it to Arctodus.
 
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DragonNTiger

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Just wanted to put this out there, but "Cenozoic" is an era, not a period... it would be like saying they should add a Mesozoic Pack. The Cenozoic--like the Mesozoic--is divided into three periods; Paleogene, Neogene and Quaternary. Furthermore, considering the Cretaceous got divided into two packs based on epochs--the Early Cretaceous pack and the Late Cretaceous pack--it seems reasonable to assume additional future packs would be further divided in this fashion, in which case the Paleogene would be divided into the Paleocene, Eocene and Oligocene, the Neogene divided into the Miocene and Pliocene, and the Quaternary divided into the Pleistocene and Holocene. Do I actually expect to see any them get this specific about Cenozoic additions? No... but I for would still find it weird if they didn't... not aligning with previous set standards and all.
 

LordTrilobite

LordTrilobite
Since JWE2 is such a big success for Frontier, and 4 animals in a pack isn't a lot to represent a whole era...
What if they were to make two Cenozoic animal packs with 4 animals each? That would still be relatively plausible and the greater variety would make it much easier to make a themed park.

Clearly, Smilodon (due to being canon) and Otodus megalodon seem to be the most popular suggestions by far. So how about making those two the main attractions of each pack, and build a theme from there?
So here are my suggestions:

Cenozoic Mammal Pack
  • Smilodon
  • Woolly mammoth
  • Megatherium
  • Paraceratherium or woolly rhino

Cenozoic Predator Pack
  • Otodus megalodon
  • Basilosaurus
  • Titanis
  • Daeodon

Of course other combinations would be possible. But I think this would give players quite a good selection of animals to choose from.
 

Paleoguy

Paleoguy
LordTrilobite said:
Since JWE2 is such a big success for Frontier, and 4 animals in a pack isn't a lot to represent a whole era...
What if they were to make two Cenozoic animal packs with 4 animals each? That would still be relatively plausible and the greater variety would make it much easier to make a themed park.

Clearly, Smilodon (due to being canon) and Otodus megalodon seem to be the most popular suggestions by far. So how about making those two the main attractions of each pack, and build a theme from there?
So here are my suggestions:

Cenozoic Mammal Pack
  • Smilodon
  • Woolly mammoth
  • Megatherium
  • Paraceratherium or woolly rhino

Cenozoic Predator Pack
  • Otodus megalodon
  • Basilosaurus
  • Titanis
  • Daeodon

Of course other combinations would be possible. But I think this would give players quite a good selection of animals to choose from.
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@LordTrilobite great ideas! If Frontier ever made that, or something similar I would get excited for it. I probably would use the Nevada snow map a lot more often.
 

ElliotFilceDino379

ElliotFilceDino379
DragonNTiger said:
Hmm... like the idea, but some of these choices... not so good... honestly, only the Woolly Rhino and maybe the Megalodon are really good choices (still not sure about gill breathers)...

Big no to Andrewsarchus... there's so little we know about it, the wolf-like look has been discarded for a more pig-like entelodont look... and even that's just a guess... let's focus on the things with an appearance we're aware of.

I don't get Cetotherium... I mean, from the looks of it, it's not that different from modern whales... if you wanted an exotic aquatic, go with something primitive like Basilosaurus.

They don't even get habitat snakes in Planet Zoo, apparently they're notorious escape artists, so I highly doubt we'd ever see one in JWE... plus, making it work sounds like a nightmare; how would it feed? How would it fight?

If the Columbian Mammoth is a hybrid, then is it a true species? Either way, I'd sooner advocate for the good old Woolly Mammoth...

In my opinion, a far more believable Cenozoic pack would be:
  • Woolly Rhino -------- (Coelodonta antiquitatis)
  • Woolly Mammoth --- (Mammuthus primigenius)
  • Sabertooth Cat ------ (Smilodon fatalis)
  • Megaloceros --------- (Megaloceros giganteus)
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I disagree with you I think his choices are great and so are yours, In my opinion no idea is a bad idea
 
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