Pretty sure they could be more different.
Fall DLC 2023 Speculation
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You don’t have to bet on anything. I literally made a post listing what I believe might be needed to complete NA a couple pages back.
Do they just show the overall sales? Or like sales in the first month after release?
Because if the just show the overall sales, it obvious arid will be last, its the newest
Sorry for double posting but I thought I’d engage with this post. While I am a US citizen I grew up in Turkey and considered it as “my country” so here’s what I think would complete Turkey:
Dalmatian Pelican
White Stork
Waldrapp
Wild Boar
Golden Jackal
Beech Marten
Eurasian Otter
Persian Leopard (assuming that it is the same taxa as the now extinct Anatolian leopard)
Marbled Polecat
Chamois
Armenian Mouflon
Syrian Brown Bear
Goitered Gazelle
Angora Goat
Wild Goat
Sheltopusik
Greek Tortoise
Asia Minor Ground Squirrel
Wagner’s Viper
Indian Crested Porcupine (can be subbed with African crested)
And to stretch it:
Mediterranean Monk Seal
Euphrates Softshell
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They show a chart in the presentation and it will show the sales drop if there were any which I highly doubt.
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I have a wee question around the next update. Are there any features Planet Coaster had that we haven’t seen in Planet Zoo? The ones I can think of are the terrain editor and scenario editor. I wasn’t around in the PlanCo days originally so I’m assuming they came in updates? Are there any more that would work in PlanZoo?
Hotels is the only other 'major' feature, I believe. Also, terrain editor?
This better include domestics since Scotland is nothing without its endless fields of sheep:
- Highland Cow
- Shetland Pony
- Scottish Blackface sheep
- Cheviot Sheep
- Aberdeen Angus Cow
- Roe Deer
- Red Squirrel
- Scottish Wildcat
- European Beaver
- European Otter
- Pine Marten
- Mountain Hare
- Harbour Seal
- Capercaillie
- Rock Ptarmigan
- Wild Boar
- European Hare
- European Rabbit
- Mallard Duck
- Mute Swan
- Atlantic Puffin
- Grey Heron
- European Adder
North Island brown kiwi. Tuatara (exhibit). Little blue penguin.
Two habitat animals and one exhibit animal is all I need to be happy with NZ. If they were to ever add flying birds to the Walkthrough Exhibit, then I'd include the kea in that list as well, but that's not going to happen.
Unlimited ay? Well the obvious answer there is "every species kept in captivity" because that's the only way to truly complete the wildlife of a region (by the very definition of the word). However, that's no fun, so instead I just took this prompt as "if Frontier made Planet Australian Wildlife Park, what would be the best roster to cover as much as possible?" With Australia being so large and biodiverse, the resulting list is unavoidably enormous:
Platypus
Short-beaked Echidna
Numbat
Tasmanian Devil
Quolls (Spotted-tailed, Eastern & Western)
Greater Bilby
Bandicoots (Southern Brown, Eastern Barred & Golden)
Wombats (Common & Southern Hairy-nosed)
Common Brushtail Possum
Common Ringtail Possum
Gliders (Krefft's, Squirrel & Yellow-bellied) [WE]
Striped Possum
Bettongs (Rufous & Brush-tailed)
Long-nosed Potoroo
Pademelons (Tasmanian & Red-legged)
Rock-wallabies (Yellow-footed & Brush-tailed)
Lumholtz's Tree Kangaroo
Typical Wallabies (Agile, Red-necked, Swamp & Tammar)
Quokka
Kangaroos (Red, Eastern Grey, Western Grey)
Rakali
Black-footed Tree-rat
Flying-foxes (Grey-headed & Black) [WE]
Ghost Bat [WE]
Dingo
Australian Sea Lion
Southern Cassowary
Emu
Megapodes (Malleefowl & Australian Brushturkey)
Magpie Goose
Black Swan
Ducks (Plumed Whistling, Freckled, Radjah, Pink-eared)
Cape Barren Goose
Australian Bustard
Brolga
Stone-curlews (Bush & Beach)
Little Penguin
Black-necked Stork
Spoonbills (Royal & Yellow-faced)
Ibises (Australian White & Glossy)
Australian Pelican
Superb Lyrebird
Crocodiles (Saltwater & Freshwater)
Pig-nosed Turtle
Side-necked Turtles (Eastern Snake-necked, Macquarie & Western Swamp) [E]
Geckos (Centralian Kn*b-tailed, Broad-tailed & Northern Spiny-tailed) [E]
Bluetongues (Eastern, Centralian & Shingleback) [E]
Egernia Skinks (Cunningham's Skink & Gidgee Skink) [E]
Eastern Water Skink [E]
Dragons (Central Bearded, Eastern Water, Frilled Lizard & Thorny Devil) [E]
Small Monitors (Spiny-tailed, Kimberley Rock & Pygmy Mulga) [E]
Large Monitors (Lace, Mertens' Water & Perentie)
Pythons (Woma, Diamond, Olive & Green Tree) [E]
Tree Snakes (Common & Brown) [E]
Death Adders (Common & Desert) [E]
Brown Snakes (Eastern & Western) [E]
Black Snakes (Mulga, Red-bellied & Collett's) [E]
Taipans (Inland & Coastal) [E]
Tiger Snake [E]
Frogs (Green Tree, Eastern Banjo, Green-and-gold Bell & Southern Corroborree) [E]
Butterflies (Ulysses, Cairns Birdwing, Australian Lurcher, Orchard Swallowtail, Australian Painted Lady) [WE]
Phasmids (Goliath Stick Insect, Spiny Leaf Insect) [E]
Giant Burrowing Cockroach [E]
Spiders (Redback, Barking, Sydney Funnelweb, Social Huntsman) [E]
Flinders Ranges Scorpion [E]
I had too much fun making this lol, ended up around 120 species so still less than there are in PZ itself.
Short-beaked Echidna
Numbat
Tasmanian Devil
Quolls (Spotted-tailed, Eastern & Western)
Greater Bilby
Bandicoots (Southern Brown, Eastern Barred & Golden)
Wombats (Common & Southern Hairy-nosed)
Common Brushtail Possum
Common Ringtail Possum
Gliders (Krefft's, Squirrel & Yellow-bellied) [WE]
Striped Possum
Bettongs (Rufous & Brush-tailed)
Long-nosed Potoroo
Pademelons (Tasmanian & Red-legged)
Rock-wallabies (Yellow-footed & Brush-tailed)
Lumholtz's Tree Kangaroo
Typical Wallabies (Agile, Red-necked, Swamp & Tammar)
Quokka
Kangaroos (Red, Eastern Grey, Western Grey)
Rakali
Black-footed Tree-rat
Flying-foxes (Grey-headed & Black) [WE]
Ghost Bat [WE]
Dingo
Australian Sea Lion
Southern Cassowary
Emu
Megapodes (Malleefowl & Australian Brushturkey)
Magpie Goose
Black Swan
Ducks (Plumed Whistling, Freckled, Radjah, Pink-eared)
Cape Barren Goose
Australian Bustard
Brolga
Stone-curlews (Bush & Beach)
Little Penguin
Black-necked Stork
Spoonbills (Royal & Yellow-faced)
Ibises (Australian White & Glossy)
Australian Pelican
Superb Lyrebird
Crocodiles (Saltwater & Freshwater)
Pig-nosed Turtle
Side-necked Turtles (Eastern Snake-necked, Macquarie & Western Swamp) [E]
Geckos (Centralian Kn*b-tailed, Broad-tailed & Northern Spiny-tailed) [E]
Bluetongues (Eastern, Centralian & Shingleback) [E]
Egernia Skinks (Cunningham's Skink & Gidgee Skink) [E]
Eastern Water Skink [E]
Dragons (Central Bearded, Eastern Water, Frilled Lizard & Thorny Devil) [E]
Small Monitors (Spiny-tailed, Kimberley Rock & Pygmy Mulga) [E]
Large Monitors (Lace, Mertens' Water & Perentie)
Pythons (Woma, Diamond, Olive & Green Tree) [E]
Tree Snakes (Common & Brown) [E]
Death Adders (Common & Desert) [E]
Brown Snakes (Eastern & Western) [E]
Black Snakes (Mulga, Red-bellied & Collett's) [E]
Taipans (Inland & Coastal) [E]
Tiger Snake [E]
Frogs (Green Tree, Eastern Banjo, Green-and-gold Bell & Southern Corroborree) [E]
Butterflies (Ulysses, Cairns Birdwing, Australian Lurcher, Orchard Swallowtail, Australian Painted Lady) [WE]
Phasmids (Goliath Stick Insect, Spiny Leaf Insect) [E]
Giant Burrowing Cockroach [E]
Spiders (Redback, Barking, Sydney Funnelweb, Social Huntsman) [E]
Flinders Ranges Scorpion [E]
I had too much fun making this lol, ended up around 120 species so still less than there are in PZ itself.
What would I need added to Planet Zoo to make Australia feel very well represented (and therefore what's usually considered "complete" by PZ standards) though? Oh well that's far less ridiculous:
- Short-beaked Echidna
- Tasmanian Devil
- A quoll species
- Greater Bilby
- Common Brushtail Possum
- Long-nosed Potoroo
- Quokka
- Eastern Grey Kangaroo
- Yellow-footed Rock-wallaby
- Australian Sea Lion
- Magpie Goose
- Black Swan
- Little Penguin
- Australian Pelican
- A monitor species
- A bunch more exhibits (reptiles especially)
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The list includes a couple of cheeky introduced species. I have only included birds which could exist according to current game mechanisms and have exercised restraint with ducks, geese and swans.
I would also include some representative breeds of domestics.
- Musk ox
- Mouflon
- Roe deer
- Eurasian elk/moose
- Wild boar
- Raccoon dog
- Eurasian wolf
- European brown bear
- Eurasian otter
- Pine marten
- Harbour seal
- Ringed seal
- Mountain hare
- Rock ptarmigan
- Ring-necked pheasant
- Capercaillie
- Common crane
- Black stork
- White stork
- Mallard
- Common eider
- Greylag goose
- Barnacle goose
- Canada goose
- Mute swan
- Whooper swan
- Common shelduck
- Wigeon
- Pintail
- Smew
- Moorhen
- Coot
Good. There is only one region I’d be interested in seeing a similar focus on (Amazon) - even then I’d be disappointed with a similar degree of taxonomic diversity as we got in the Arid pack…. In any case, nothing about the question implied that the selected animals would be in a single pack.
While this isnt bad in any way, its imo also nothing exciting.
Id personally cut the bear, turle and kiwi, leaving in the tassie cause it really shouldnt be benched aggain and the wild boar as it truly is the last thing that needs to be there to make europe feel bottom line complete as they are just omnipresent in any local wildlife collection.
For the exhibit, id take the Tuatara from New Zealand for 4 main reasons those being:
1. It would be a second user of the temperate exhibit, which is truly needed as its dead content if you are not using the salamender
2. We allready have so many aquatic exhibits, including one for europe, id prefer if we get another classic exhibit something more diverse
3. I have seen the european pond turtle in many zoos but never, ever ever in an terrarium. This species is pretty much exclusivly kept in europe and here its kept in, you guessed it, ponds 99% of the time and while id love habitat turtle ponds speculating on it when the terrapin is an exhibit is just copium.
And finally 4. the tuatara is a very unique creature that would finally give us some new zealand representation without clogging up the exhibit and/or newzealand slot in a future island pack, so it be a treat for everyone involved.
The kiwi gets out as i dont see see them double dipping on 2 of the most requested animals from oceania in a scenery pack when both can easily sell a pack + there are 2 more subtle but great picks that are imo better, which would be one of the 2 small deer species that are extremly common in zoos, those being the southern pudu from temperate south america or the reevees muntjac from eastern asia, filling in the ungulate gap there. Which one would be "better" is purely subjective and both have their arguments so i leave that up to you guys to decide what you prefer.
And lastly for the ABB i just honestly dont see why this is the Nr. 1 missing NA species. NA allready got a bear, allready got mid to large size carnivores and is in general quite carnivora heavy, so rather then another one of those how about something North America doesnt have and that has universal appeal to all?
Thats right, this is were id put a bird, more specificly the Mallard Duck. This Duck lives basicly everywhere temperate, either nativly or introduced and will show up on your local pond and especally in those of a zoo. They are also very colorfull, giving this very brownish pack a splash of color. They would also add one of the most desireable riggs for modding, as we do not have any waterfowl so far and even just ducks alone could easily spawn 50+ mods of all the beautiful, collorful and commonly kept ducks around the world.
It would enhance NA, it would enhance Europe, it would enhance Asia, it would enhance Oceania, it would enhance Modding, it would literally be ironically one of the most unique animals in the game and all that while just being your generic pond duck.
And the best part? Give it a white colormorph and we coverd domestic ducks aswell, adding finally another domestic thats not a camelid.
Literal perfection in one duck sized package
So yeah, thats how i would do it and not only spice up that roster but also make it better for both modding support, general use and a more even distribution of species around the planet with a bird for everywhere, which makes me confident that it wont happen as that goes against all of frontiers trends, but we will see, guess a guy can dream
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Nono id be the opposite on the taxonomic diversity for an amazon pack. FIVE different monkeys? The obligatory cat in the ocelot? An agouti or literally any other animal from south america and another snake? That sounds like the completle pipe dream banger pack weve been waiting for
What the south america pack should of been, sounds a perfect pack to compliment the tropical pack.
Ok if we are doing animals from our countries... The UK honestly has better rep than you'd expect from a zoo game lol. There is currently 5 habitat animals from the UK in game:
I think for habitat mammals the only essentials missing at this point would be a lagomorph (ideally Mountain Hare) and the Wild Boar. I think both the Pine Marten and the Roe Deer are important too but I don't know if I'd call them essential. Eurasian Otter and Harbour Seal would also be good additions but I'm not dying for those.
I don't really know where I would even start with birds honestly. We definitely need some waterfowl and other larger ground birds but this goes for Europe in general.
- European Badger
- European Fallow Deer
- Grey Seal
- Red Deer
- Red Fox
- Eurasian Lynx
- Moose
- Reindeer
- Timber Wolf (Well just Grey Wolf but whatever)
- Brown Bear (Not the right subspecies but you can still use it)
I think for habitat mammals the only essentials missing at this point would be a lagomorph (ideally Mountain Hare) and the Wild Boar. I think both the Pine Marten and the Roe Deer are important too but I don't know if I'd call them essential. Eurasian Otter and Harbour Seal would also be good additions but I'm not dying for those.
I don't really know where I would even start with birds honestly. We definitely need some waterfowl and other larger ground birds but this goes for Europe in general.
Only thing is I don't want many exhibit turtle past the terrapin. I'd much prefer getting a pig nosed or arrau River as a habitat turtle at some point.