Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?

[CMDR Vulkarius]

46 systems are still control + unpopulated + atmospheric planet + no reported action since update 16 + not on matrix list.
Most/all will have been checked with FSS at some point, just without causing 2% we can see or popping some scouts and returning later for EDDN.

Remaining candidates/time-

Cycle	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43*
Systems	120	89	75	67	57	50	46	46*

*so far...

Candidates now-

Spoiler: Hadad (12)

Col 285 Sector KW-M c7-28
Col 285 Sector PM-B b14-2
Col 285 Sector PM-B b14-6
Col 285 Sector QM-B b14-4
Col 285 Sector QM-B b14-5
Col 285 Sector RM-B b14-3
Col 285 Sector SH-B b14-3
Col 285 Sector SH-B b14-6
Col 285 Sector US-Z b14-1
Col 285 Sector US-Z b14-5
Col 285 Sector US-Z b14-6
Col 285 Sector WN-Z b14-0

Spoiler: Cocijo (7)

Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-126
Col 285 Sector VY-Q c5-10
Col 285 Sector VY-Q c5-11
Col 285 Sector VY-Q c5-15
Col 285 Sector VY-Q c5-17
Col 285 Sector XY-F b12-3
Col 285 Sector ZT-F b12-2

Spoiler: Thor (4)

Col 285 Sector IG-O c6-10
Col 285 Sector JA-G b11-0
Col 285 Sector NG-E b12-2
HIP 19046

Spoiler: Taranis (0)

Spoiler: Indra (13)

Arietis Sector DA-Z b3
Arietis Sector DQ-Y c9
Arietis Sector FL-X b1-0
Arietis Sector FL-X b1-1
Arietis Sector HG-X b1-4
HIP 19789
Hyades Sector AR-J a10-1
Hyades Sector EX-H a11-1
Hyades Sector IM-V c2-11
Hyades Sector JH-U b3-5
Hyades Sector JH-V c2-13
Hyades Sector ST-Q b5-2
Ross 378

Spoiler: Leigong (6)

Arietis Sector XJ-R b4-0
Arietis Sector XJ-R b4-1
HIP 10118
HIP 9643
Hyades Sector KN-K b8-1
Hyades Sector KN-K b8-2

Spoiler: Oya (1)

Cephei Sector WO-A b3

Spoiler: Raijin (3)

Pegasi Sector JH-V c2-22
Pegasi Sector LY-O a7-3
Pegasi Sector OI-S b4-0

 

[Kira Goto]

So I kind of just noticed HIP 20616 around Indra is under alert(following end of recapture safety net)… with all of its surface ports at 175k ls… and there’s a barnacle matrix next door… oh dear.

On a more positive note, Montioch looks like it’s very strongly pulling ahead, even surpassing Njorog in progress when I looked just now(~1:27 AM CET). Perhaps locals just had been stockpiling samples until now… not that I’d know for sure.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in Col 285 Sectors NG-E b12-4, UH-C b13-2 and NG-E b12-3, 79 b Tauri, HIP 22566 (well done!), Hyades Sectors IM-V c2-11 and ON-S b4-6, and overtaking the others is Ebisu! Note that Omumba will be a bit behind, although its long-term chances are quite good, almost having reached the one-third surplus and having one more planetary port available. Thank you all at M. Hadad for the continued support at Montioch!

Invasions at 08:10 24th September 3309:
Njorog Invasion 64% *64.8% — Taranis 15 Ly, 5 ports, 107 Ls planet + 371 Ls outpost attack
Arietis Sector MX-U c2-18 Invasion 58% *59.3% — Leigong 24 Ly, 1 port, 25k Ls planet attack
HIP 116360 Invasion 52% *53.6% — Raijin 21 Ly, 4 ports, 861 Ls 0.3g planet attack
Trailing:
Omumba Invasion 28% *29% — Hadad 14 Ly, 4 ports, 1836 Ls planet attack

Alerts:
Nu Guang Alert 88% *88.5% — Raijin 19 Ly, 44 Ls starport, 1040 Ls outpost
HIP 7338 Alert 22% *23.7% — Oya 19 Ly, 2426 Ls outpost, 1660 Ls planet
HIP 19157 Alert 14% *15.3% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 1277 Ls outpost

Eviction:
Montioch Control 70% — Hadad 13 Ly, 8968 strength

So I kind of just noticed HIP 20616 around Indra is under alert(following end of recapture safety net)… with all of its surface ports at 175k ls… and there’s a barnacle matrix next door… oh dear.

Taking a look at it—while 175k Ls suits nobody well, I think having four planetary ports makes it suit Invasion much more so than Alert, insofar as several port defences can be done following only one Supercruise journey. That said, I have not checked how common are Glaive interdictions recently!

On a more positive note, Montioch looks like it’s very strongly pulling ahead, even surpassing Njorog in progress when I looked just now(~1:27 AM CET). Perhaps locals just had been stockpiling samples until now… not that I’d know for sure.

There is at least one very strong combat group which has been active in high-strength Control systems around M. Hadad in general; unfortunately we are not always able to turn that activity into a recaptured system, but everything aligned well this week.

I do not think anything for Montioch was stockpiled; INIV has harvested and delivered 12907 for 43.2%, and another 26.8–28.8% from others places it at 70–72%. I think it is rising actively at the moment, for which I am most thankful of course!

 

[Starsong]

683 samples gathered for Chnemine so far. Slow progress due to the fact there's bugs to shoot in the Invasions, but hey - it's not like samples go off.

 

[Kira Goto]

I do not think anything for Montioch was stockpiled; INIV has harvested and delivered 12907 for 43.2%, and another 26.8–28.8% from others places it at 70–72%. I think it is rising actively at the moment, for which I am most thankful of course!

I suppose that would be a good explanation - I had simply thought that stockpiling looked like an alternative to have been considered by whichever forces worked locally, seeing how previous recapture attempts generally didn’t work out for completion without external assistance, with delivery work taking place beside/between fighting the invasion at Omumba.

Nothing I could have known for sure, of course. Just options I considered in my head, but you cleared that up. I guess it’s possible some of Omumba’s (relative) lack of progress is because the combat group are largely busy in Montioch instead.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in HIP 6694, Pegasi Sectors TK-L a9-0, HH-U b3-2 and IH-U b3-8, Nu Guang, Hyades Sectors RO-R c4-20 and GB-N b7-5, Arietis Sector XJ-R b4-2 and Col 285 Sectors KW-M c7-31 and PM-B b14-3! The primary Invasion group is approaching completion along with Montioch; well done to all for the perseverance on those fronts in a quite high-strength week, and also to those continuing the excellent level of empty Alert and Control system completion.

After those Invasions, note that Omumba is beyond the surplus threshold, but also that an attack next week could choose one of its Outposts instead of its other Planetary port. In all consideration, pushing the surplus higher this week seems like a reasonable idea, and I am a little curious about what combat bond totals such would achieve this week!

Invasions at 06:40 25th September 3309:
HIP 116360 Invasion 90% — Raijin 21 Ly, 4 ports, 861 Ls 0.3g planet attack
Njorog Invasion 84% *84.9% — Taranis 15 Ly, 5 ports, 107 Ls planet + 371 Ls outpost attack
Arietis Sector MX-U c2-18 Invasion 80% — Leigong 24 Ly, 1 port, 25k Ls planet attack
Surplus:
Omumba Invasion 38% *39.4% — Hadad 14 Ly, 4 ports, 1836 Ls planet attack

Alerts:
Jeng Alert 46% — Oya 23 Ly, 1588 Ls outpost
Possibly one but hopefully both:
HIP 7338 Alert 30% *30.5% — Oya 19 Ly, 2426 Ls outpost, 1660 Ls planet
HIP 19157 Alert 28% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 1277 Ls outpost, 217 Ls planet
Trailing:
HIP 20890 Alert 16% *17.5% — Indra 22 Ly, 1609 Ls outpost, 6876 Ls planet
HIP 11111 Alert 14% *14.1% — Oya 24 Ly, 2567 Ls outpost, 2474 Ls planet

Eviction:
Montioch Control 86% — Hadad 13 Ly, 4185 strength

Clean-up:
Col 285 Sector SH-B b14-5 Alert 74% *74.9% — Hadad 20 Ly, empty
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-10 Alert 34% — Cocijo 20 Ly, empty

 

[Starsong]

Do we know who's working in HIP 8525? It's up to 20% and I'll happily join in if it's likely to get somewhere.

 

[Kira Goto]

Do we know who's working in HIP 8525? It's up to 20% and I'll happily join in if it's likely to get somewhere.

Not to my knowledge. There’s likely some local group acting in controls as some of them frequently see varying levels of progress(including spikes such as 8525 has seen this cycle), but there is no planned action that I could point to.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

I noticed that HIP 8525 had gained 16% in a day, although unfortunately said day needs to be Thursday or Friday for that to project completion. If you discover who it is, obviously starting earlier is the first suggestion!

If the target system then turns out not to matter much, I would suggest attacking instead the isolated pair of Akbakara and Liu Huang one at a time, perhaps moving up to the truly-isolated Tougeir. As it is, HIP 8525 will start being attacked by Kanus and HIP 13179—unless that is the plan, of course.

 

[Kira Goto]

Tougeir

There is actually a plan to recapture it, though I’m not sure of its current progress in regards to sample stockpiling - I made a case to recapture it (over in the DCoH discord) to keep Jeng out of Thargoid sights at least temporarily, if they pick up the pace again, rather than be content with the current (relative) stalemate.

I might ask, been thinking about doing so anyway.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

There is actually a plan to recapture it, though I’m not sure of its current progress in regards to sample stockpiling - I made a case to recapture it (over in the DCoH discord) to keep Jeng out of Thargoid sights at least temporarily, if they pick up the pace again, rather than be content with the current (relative) stalemate.

I might ask, been thinking about doing so anyway.

If I understand the process, Tougeir will attack Lahua at the end of next week, which is a little unfortunate because the plan here is to prevent Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-2 from attacking Muruidooges. Beyond that, though—if Tougeir is still around on 12th October 3309 at the start of week 46, just call for anything to be delivered which may have been stockpiled, and either way we can complete Tougeir that weekend just before update 17.

By all means stop Tougeir next week if one can, but otherwise that attack will be its last!

Additional: Could attack Lahua, but does not. If the quirk of attacking beyond the Maelstrom perimeter keeps Tougeir silent next week, consider that plan expedited to stop Tougeir before its next round with Jeng!

 

[Shayan al Nasarwa]

If I understand the process, Tougeir will attack Lahua at the end of next week, which is a little unfortunate because the plan here is to prevent Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-2 from attacking Muruidooges. Beyond that, though—if Tougeir is still around on 12th October 3309 at the start of week 46, just call for anything to be delivered which may have been stockpiled, and either way we can complete Tougeir that weekend just before update 17.

By all means stop Tougeir next week if one can, but otherwise that attack will be its last!

Commander @deanom59 has about 6000 samples from Tougeir on his carrier. And commander @PapaDragon_I has an additional buy order on his carrier "[SNPX] Resolute". Any assistance would be very welcome. @PapaDragon_I: please give a hint of the current location of the Resolute...

Unfortunately we have only a few commanders doing harvesting, so we have got enough to do with the current alerts. We want HIP 11111 getting in invation this cycle, so SNPX won't harvest there.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Victories in HIPs 116360 and 10168, Col 285 Sectors SH-B b14-5 and RM-B b14-8, Jeng, Njorog and Hyades Sector FB-N b7-3! One last poke at Arietis Sector MX-U c2-18 should defend it, then Omumba will be challenging to complete but otherwise fine to help give it a better start next week.

HIP 8525 remains well by momentum but having started a bit too late this week, meanwhile a bit more action at Iduni should let us complete it if not already by Wednesday evening, and Montioch will be ours amid or before this Tuesday evening!

Invasions at 06:40 26th September 3309:
Arietis Sector MX-U c2-18 Invasion 98% — Leigong 24 Ly, 1 port, 25k Ls planet attack
Surplus, borderline:
Omumba Invasion 50% *51.3% — Hadad 14 Ly, 4 ports, 1836 Ls planet attack

Alerts:
HIP 7338 Alert 86% — Oya 19 Ly, 2426 Ls outpost, 1660 Ls planet
HIP 19157 Alert 42% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 1277 Ls outpost, 217 Ls planet
Trailing:
HIP 20890 Alert 22% *22.8% — Indra 22 Ly, 1609 Ls outpost, 6876 Ls planet
HIP 11111 Alert 20% *20.3% — Oya 24 Ly, 2567 Ls outpost, 2474 Ls planet, Invasion requested

Evictions:
Montioch Control 96% *97.5% — Hadad 13 Ly, 735 strength
Iduni Control 28% — Raijin 22 Ly, 2428 strength
Unlikely:
HIP 8525 Control 28% — Oya 18 Ly, 6591 strength

Clean-up:
71 Tauri Control 40% — Indra 15 Ly, empty, 1842 strength
Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-10 Alert 34% — Cocijo 20 Ly, empty

Commander @deanom59 has about 6000 samples from Tougeir on his carrier. And commander @PapaDragon_I has an additional buy order on his carrier "[SNPX] Resolute". Any assistance would be very welcome. @PapaDragon_I: please give a hint of the current location of the Resolute...

Wonderful; thank you all! That becomes half for Tougeir already, when we are ready to use it. If we reach week 45, Tougeir is still Control and our recent understanding of M. Oya predicts that it will attack Jeng—INIV will just start Tougeir deliveries.

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

For anyone looking to mess with revenants, I have a shameless plug to make: The Leftorium (H2B-14M), currently parked in HIP 20527, has a bar with all the materials for sale that are required for upgrading the Karma L-6 rocket launcher, which can one-shot revenants once it reaches grade 4. Pioneer Supplies is also active on-board so you can purchase/upgrade there if you're too lazy to go to a fully active station.

(I will endeavour to keep the stock supplies available because quite frankly, there's not a lot else to keep me currently interested in the game...)

 

[Phill P]

For anyone looking to mess with revenants, I have a shameless plug to make: The Leftorium (H2B-14M), currently parked in HIP 20527, has a bar with all the materials for sale that are required for upgrading the Karma L-6 rocket launcher, which can one-shot revenants once it reaches grade 4. Pioneer Supplies is also active on-board so you can purchase/upgrade there if you're too lazy to go to a fully active station.

(I will endeavour to keep the stock supplies available because quite frankly, there's not a lot else to keep me currently interested in the game...)

Thanks Ned, just what I need to do mine. Much appreciated.

 

[PapaDragon_I]

Commander @deanom59 has about 6000 samples from Tougeir on his carrier. And commander @PapaDragon_I has an additional buy order on his carrier "[SNPX] Resolute". Any assistance would be very welcome. @PapaDragon_I: please give a hint of the current location of the Resolute...

Unfortunately we have only a few commanders doing harvesting, so we have got enough to do with the current alerts. We want HIP 11111 getting in invation this cycle, so SNPX won't harvest there.

The SNPX Resolute is parked in Muchihiks and will stay ther for the time. Sampel count: 386/ 6114.
As Shayan said we don´t have many cmdrs so we appriciate any help.

 

[yttrbio]

For anyone looking to mess with revenants, I have a shameless plug to make: The Leftorium (H2B-14M), currently parked in HIP 20527, has a bar with all the materials for sale that are required for upgrading the Karma L-6 rocket launcher, which can one-shot revenants once it reaches grade 4. Pioneer Supplies is also active on-board so you can purchase/upgrade there if you're too lazy to go to a fully active station.

(I will endeavour to keep the stock supplies available because quite frankly, there's not a lot else to keep me currently interested in the game...)

Edit: Someone cleared out the tungsten carbide supply almost immediately, I added a handful more and some buy orders for tradable assets if people want to help me out restocking it.

Quick warning: Grade 4 rocket launchers only sometimes one-shot revenants. Had a lot of fun discovering that sometimes they don't.

 

[Ned Flandalorian]

On the rare occasion that they get left with a few pixels of health bar, the TK Zenith finishes the job.

 

[Starsong]

Both myself and @PapaDragon_I have been running tests to see if killing Revenants gives war progress outside the bonus you get from the missions themselves. It seems they do, but not that much - killing 100 revenants in Warnones (13.59 Ly) only gave 0.000113 war progress, which is only equivalent to a few samples.

 

[RaketeMike]

Both myself and @PapaDragon_I have been running tests to see if killing Revenants gives war progress outside the bonus you get from the missions themselves. It seems they do, but not that much - killing 100 revenants in Warnones (13.59 Ly) only gave 0.000113 war progress, which is only equivalent to a few samples.

I very much hope that this will be different for the new revenants at the matrix sites as soon as they’re open.