Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Viajero

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The new ToS, in clauses V and VI in particular, is even a bit clearer than the previous one in that only "in-game items" such as vehicles, ships etc are considered by CIG as "pledges" (i.e. crowdfund). And even then, only those that are not in-game yet can be considered as actual crowdfund for an item coming down the line; whereas any items already existing in-game are automatically delivered upon payment, as is, as a regular purchase/sale.

In other words, the ToS does not consider the game itself, the PU, as a "pledge". SC is sold as is, a simple straight purchase transaction of a product. SC has been released as early access and it is sold as is.

The worst part with all this, as with the previous ToS, is that the community and video game industry in general continues under the spell believing SC is still a fully crowdfunded thing. And CIG is not moving a finger to make it more clear and explicit that that is not the case, as it obviously suits them to still be perceived as a crowdfunded endeavor. Most transparent development ever.
 
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The new ToS, in clauses V and VI in particular, is even a bit clearer than the previous one in that only "in-game items" such as vehicles, ships etc are considered by CIG as "pledges" (i.e. crowdfund). And even then, only those that are not in-game yet can be considered as actual crowdfund for an item coming down the line; whereas any items already existing in-game are automatically delivered upon payment, as is, as a regular purchase/sale.

In other words, the ToS does not consider the game itself, the PU, as a "pledge". SC is sold as is, a simple straight purchase transaction of a product. SC has been released as early access and it is sold as is.

The worst part with all this, as per the previous ToS, is that the community and video game industry in general continues under the spell believing SC is still a fully crowdfunded thing. And CIG is not moving a finger to make it more clear and explicit that that is not the case, as it obviously suits them to still be perceived as a crowdfunded endeavor. Most transparent development ever.
Star Citizen: Crowdfunded, But Not Crowdfunded, Definitely Not a Scam
 
Yeah it's like a balloon, the thruster push it up off the ground, but when the thrusters turn horizontal it still stays floating off the ground

There are supposed to be manuevering thrusters all round, the VTOL gadget only gives it a bit more power in one direction. Mostly pointless for landing and takeoffs, IMO, and adds the danger of damaging important engines. I mainly use it for slowing a descent from space to surface and

I just tested a T-9 on a 1.5g world. Its ventral thrusters can lift it up against the gravity but it falls down if rolled to any other side. It can hover with the nose pointing up but not down. So in that regards, ED gets good marks for Magic Thrusters only in important directions. Smaller ships can hover at almost any angle, though.
 
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New "heist" mission is received well

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I just tested a T-9 on a 1.5g world. Its ventral thrusters can lift it up against the gravity but it falls down if rolled to any other side. It can hover with the nose pointing up but not down. So in that regards, ED gets good marks for Magic Thrusters only in important directions. Smaller ships can hover at almost any angle, though.

Magic vertical thrusters in ED is a well known mechanic, but at least they are vertical thrusters, they can hold a T9 up under 45g, try angling any which way and it's a fast descent though which you won't survive, and trying to fly down like a smaller ship quickly shows you the limitations of the magic thrusters, they are only magic to a certain extent. 1.5g is playtime, try 7g or 8g and point the nose up!
 
"bloody hell, Chris, did you even cook this chicken? We're gonna get food poisoning!"
"sure i cooked it, in the microwave"
"the microwave isn't an oven, you idiot. Use the oven"
"never been done before, i'll just modify the microwave to cook like an oven too. The food poisoning will pass, stop being noisy"
....
"is the chicken dinner ready yet Chris?"
"i've contracted a company to modify the microwave to be an oven too, it's early days"
"just use the damn oven"
"the microwave has better fidelity"
 

Got to love how some are willing to bargain themselves down from what they were sold.

100+ star systems. Sure.

If we get Pyro in the next few years I'll already be happy. Depending on how many assets from SQ42 can be salvaged, we might be lucky to get another one or two systems in the lifespan of the game.

Just don't worry about size, as we have seen in ED, a playfield being a galaxy wide but an inch deep doesn't offer much either.

Worry about content in those spaces.

So, they would be happy without having more than 2 star systems? Without all the alien systems promised. Without the major systems like Terra and Sol that were promised.

These people...

Another one

To this day I still don't understand what the players of StarCitzien get out of it if there are 100 star systems.

Unless you never want to see other players in an MMO again. Then you can also just play ED.


The topic with the 100 star systems is only there so that some haters can use it to complain.

These people would celebrate like crazy if CIG somehow added all 110 promised systems. They are just well into the 5 stages of grief.

The main reasons I backed Star Citizen was because it was advertised to allow player run servers with the ability to mod the game on that server. I hope we get that ability, even if that means we need to rent a server cluster.

Oh dear...

Got to love people who seem to know what is happening inside CIG... or just pull stuff out of their rear end without proof

Nyx is being worked on. Odin is being worked on extensively. Allegedly there's another unknown 5th system that they're working on, but they haven't announced if that's true or what they're working on.

Grade A copium right here

My theory is they are working on a big surprise to have the other 98 star systems ready to go in along side pyro. And probably also have the necessary updates to Stanton. Now that they have had their world building tools in hand for a very long time, they could have already pulled this off. All that's left is to find a PES database that can handle this quality of data.

I do like the newer more cynical Lethality. Guy used to be an utter shill for CIG

Rumor has it that they actually will have about 20 systems ready to go not long after Pyro.

This rumor was started by me just now.
 
"bloody hell, Chris, did you even cook this chicken? We're gonna get food poisoning!"
"sure i cooked it, in the microwave"
"the microwave isn't an oven, you idiot. Use the oven"
"never been done before, i'll just modify the microwave to cook like an oven too. The food poisoning will pass, stop being noisy"
....
"is the chicken dinner ready yet Chris?"
"i've contracted a company to modify the microwave to be an oven too, it's early days"
"just use the damn oven"
"the microwave has better fidelity"
It's been done before Chris, it's called a Tornado Oven.
 
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