Winter 2023 DLC Speculation

Nothing like another classic round of this or that to get the conversation going again! (You laugh now but these are gonna get us to pg 300 lol)

Musk Ox or Takin? Not what’s most likely to make it in, the one you prefer.
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Takin. Gorgeous. Fun to look at. Pretty playful. Habitats could be done up in a range of different ways along hillsides, cliffs, and so on... They also lend themselves to fun theming around the habitat.

In contrast, I would be very disappointed if the musk ox took the slot of the takin... Or any other animal, really. They're just kinda boring to me. Similar to the walrus, it'd be cool to see what Frontier does with them but... I dunno. Feels more like a "build for it once, then forget about it" kinda pick for me. I just don't get it. But to each their own.
 
Takin. Gorgeous. Fun to look at. Pretty playful. Habitats could be done up in a range of different ways along hillsides, cliffs, and so on... They also lend themselves to fun theming around the habitat.

In contrast, I would be very disappointed if the musk ox took the slot of the takin... Or any other animal, really. They're just kinda boring to me. Similar to the walrus, it'd be cool to see what Frontier does with them but... I dunno. Feels more like a "build for it once, then forget about it" kinda pick for me. I just don't get it. But to each their own.
Pretty much my exact opinion, even nailed the walrus reference which I also agree with. There’s not too much possibilities for me when building for either of them, cause even though takin are mountain creatures they aren’t like extreme climbers like goats are, they’re more like how you build for the water Buffalo, flat plain enclosure with lots of ground rocks. But they are very very beautiful animals which is the main reason I want them.

This is also why I think we’ll get Markhor with the takin. One stays on the ground with some rocky flatlands, while the other climbs to the top of valleys and steep mountains, if you ignore the class the Markhor and takin are very different animals in terms of behaviour.
 
Honestly, takin or musk ox either way. Both are nice and ideally I'd love both...



And, y'all, here's another reason why I love black bears:

Ignoring the dangerous situation the guy put himself in, the bear was so adorable. Reminds me of my dog🤣
 
Pretty much my exact opinion, even nailed the walrus reference which I also agree with. There’s not too much possibilities for me when building for either of them, cause even though takin are mountain creatures they aren’t like extreme climbers like goats are, they’re more like how you build for the water Buffalo, flat plain enclosure with lots of ground rocks. But they are very very beautiful animals which is the main reason I want them.

This is also why I think we’ll get Markhor with the takin. One stays on the ground with some rocky flatlands, while the other climbs to the top of valleys and steep mountains, if you ignore the class the Markhor and takin are very different animals in terms of behaviour.
Interesting to hear your take on the takin enclosures! I've seen them twice that I can recall and in both cases the habitats were multi-layered with a few inclines to allow movement between the layers (and, as you said, plenty of rocks). Somewhere in-between what I'd build for a zebra and a markhor. Not flat but the inclines wouldn't be super steep either. But I guess this just further reinforces my thoughts on versatility in building for them!

You also kinda nailed the reason I think a takin and markhor would be a rare instance where two ungulates in a pack would be welcome to the majority of the community. The takin just looks unique and it kinda has this "teddy bear"-like look that has broader appeal than, say, a horse or another antelope might. The markhor looks quite different than the other goats we have in-game and it would be another nice addition to the Asian sections. I could see their hilly enclosure built elevated behind a takin pen... Or just beyond a snow leopard.

The more people talk about the potential for this pack, the more I think about the winning combinations that the Grasslands and Wetlands packs brought to the table. Those packs offered regionally diverse animals that filled gaps (both in-game and typical zoo animal-wise) with species that had plenty of charisma. And there was a range of animal types that lent to different habitat types (or very complementary co-habitation pairings, e.g., the lechwe and water buffalo).

There's a lot of potential in so many of these pack options. From highlands to treetops to domestics to whatever...
 
Markhor > Musk Ox > Takin > Barbary Sheep

But honestly I would like to see them all. Besides Antelopes/Gazelles and Cats probably Goat/Sheeps are probably the Family which are rich in specific species which I would Like to See within the Game (Bears also but there are only 3 species remaining). Mountain Goats or a Chamois species for example would also be interesting "oddballs" in my opinion. (Habitat birds and Monkeys are Special in my opinion as they are more a common wish with more diverse families)
 
Caprines are my favourite group of ungulates and there is four species I really want in the game (not counting domestics):
  1. Barbary Sheep (The most common caprine in zoos, smaller and distinct looking from others as well as being unique in that it would give Africa a caprine and also a warmer climate species)
  2. Takin (It's unique looking and a pretty iconic zoo animal, would also give us a species from the Himalayas and temperate Asia in one)
  3. Markhor (Another wild goat but this is an iconic group so having two is fine, let's not forget those iconic horns and the fact it would be great to have a proper goat for Himalayan sections)
  4. Muskox (One of the most iconic Arctic animals that gives the region a big ungulate, not so common in zoos but it's too iconic not to want)
Beyond this I would also quite like to see the Rocky Mountain Goat (Unique looking goat that is a good rep for the Rockies) and Alpine Chamois (Beautiful smaller species that would pair well with the Ibex).
 
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