Both would use the flamingo rig as a base quite easily. In fact the secretarybird could use the ostrich/ratite rig, too.
Why do people think the red crowned crane is its own rig? It still uses like half the flamingo animations.
Peafowl rig.
Winter 2023 DLC Speculation
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Parents bought me animal books as a baby. Earliest memory is of Edinburgh Zoo. Only real child-friendly thing to do that consumed a whole day in my city is either Orana Wildlife Park or Willowbank Wildlife Reserve, so went there a lot as a kid. Used to draw zoo maps with colouring-in pencils on A4 printer paper - I still have some in storage, I believe, but at one point I had two and a half full stacks of different fictional zoos.
So building off the topic of not every animal in a highlands pack would make the cut, which of the most talked about animals are you willing to sacrifice if we don’t get them?
No offence to this question but it doesn’t have to do with the winter Pack so I’m throwing out another highlands conversation starter.
The wolverine means nothing to me and would be the most boring to build for, IMO.
Yeah fair honestly, to me it’s the same as the Badger, I still like building for it and I probably will for the Wolverine but it’s not my most favourite thing to build for when compared to something like a Markhor.
For a Highlands/mountains pack I would go with wolverine, they simply do not have Highlands like habitat design in them at all. My local zoo, the Highland wildlife park has a really big wolverine habitat and it's just a sloped grassy hillside with a pool - thats it, no interesting features that one would expect in a mountain styled pack. It's a forest animal to me, fitting in a temperate or woodland pack not a Highland pack. We talk about markhor, spectacled bear, rock hyrax, and even marmots which all have more challenging and visually appealing habitat designs. The diversity in habitat design is the strength of the Highlands theme.
Spectacled bear, no real interest in them at all.
Id also say wolverine, although for different reasons. They have a couple other themes were the fit in so dont really need to be in a highlands pack.
Tbh the only two "must haves" in the mountain/highland theme are a takin and either of the baboons. Not that i hate the markhor or pallas cat, they would still be welcome additions but i wouldnt be mad if they dont make it
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One visit to Disney's animal Kingdom as a kid surely did the trick. Yet I never played a single zoo tycoon game, I got introduced to frontier through planet coaster and naturally moved over to planet zoo.
I wondered about that for the Turkey but thought it might be too squat. At any rate thank you, this lifts my hopes slightly even though its a .01% chance this pack would happen, even if I did remove 2
They don't copy/paste the rig and leave it as is, they copy/paste it and make adjustments as needed. The rig provides a basis for animations; they keep the animations that work for the new animal (in the turkey's case, walking, the tail animation, would probably be the same) and throw out the ones that don't (possibly the flight animation of the peafowl) and add new ones that suit (like a wobbling wattle for the turkey). The rig is literally just a framework upon which the rest of the animal it built.
I'm honestly not even sure. I guess it's because I've always been revolved around nature and pets.
My dad is from Argentina, and he lived on an island on the Paraná River, so he grew up outside with snakes, caimans, and piranhas.
My mom is from East Texas, so she grew up in the country playing in the woods.
I guess it just runs in my family. I frequently visit the place my mom grew up and go exploring in the woods myself. I've had lots of encounters with wildlife, like coyotes, wild boar, and bobcats. Ice also always had pets growing up, including birds, dogs, cats, bunnies, fish, crawfish, lizards, and frogs. I also would always go to the Houston Zoo, so growing up I was kinda half-and-half: country boy and city boy. I had/have tons of animal encyclopedias and dinosaur encyclopedias, as well.
About videogames, I grew up on Zoo Tycoon 1 and Zoo Tycoon 2, as well as Jurassic Park Operation Genesis. I also played The Sims Unleashed, which added pets to the game, and games like Impossible Creatures, Spore, & SimSafari. Eventually, my cousin showed me Planet Zoo, and I got the game a few months later
For me it's the wolverine. I don't really care if it's included, but I wouldn't complain as it would be a nice filler species for North America
The pack can have no more than 3 caprines max otherwise your alienating anyone who doesnt like caprines or ungulates it wouldnt be a smart decision the current dominant list is alright since it has a variety alongside its caprines
Steve backshall and deadly 60 plus alot of animal reports in primary school were what got me into animals. My innate need to collect everything sent me to planet zoo via endless ocean, zoo tycoon 2 and then planet zoo.
so if you mean sacrifice and we never can get it later the takin im generally pretty neutral on ungulates and the takin just seems boring to me. If you mean just sacrifice from the pack roster and it can appear again later then the wolverine I just don't think it suits highlands.
I agree there are very few cases where they would directly reuse a rig ie another capuchin or another flamingo everything else would need some level of adjustment the arbitrary needs a new rig conversation is redundant because rigs have a varying levels of complexity and starting points every animal is likely to need new rigs or reworks.
Wolverine. Don't get me wrong, I would be happy for its fans if it showed up and I might even find a place for it in my wildlife rehab zoo, but it's not an animal at the top of my wishlist and I don't think it ticks the mountain box as well as some think it does. I'd rather get a pheasant in a mountain pack - there are so many beautiful choices to choose from - and save the wolverine for a taiga pack.
This is also partially because it provides the best possibility for muskox to make it in to the game later on...
Why even is the Wolverine at the top of the wish-list? 
Cause to answer my own question from earlier I would also sacrifice the Wolverine, I’m not giving up a caprine cause we need more and I love building for them, bear is also fun to build for and it’s been forever since we got a bear and the baboon is self explanatory.
Cause to answer my own question from earlier I would also sacrifice the Wolverine, I’m not giving up a caprine cause we need more and I love building for them, bear is also fun to build for and it’s been forever since we got a bear and the baboon is self explanatory.
'Cause it's coolWhy even is the Wolverine at the top of the wish-list?
I think I'd go with the spectacled bear, I guess. I want the wolverine too much and the rest of the regulars all feel too "essential" to me.
If I was certain there were a bunch more packs coming with varied themes? I'd leave out the wolverine because it would fit better in a woodlands/temperate pack or whatever but... Not willing to risk it at this stage.
For me it's because they're a relatively elusive animal with some interesting quirks that's pretty visually appealing (and could help further flesh out several different sections of zoos ranging from small mammals to North America to Europe to a more general "cold weather" area).Why even is the Wolverine at the top of the wish-list?
I think they're really interesting and could be fun (and diverse) to build for. But I enjoy little hillside, multi-tier habitats with shelters, climbing structures, etc. It's the ungulates that usually bore me to build for (though, interestingly, the highland/mountain ones would be the exception).
I think the only reason wolverines are popping up in the highlands wish lists is because of how highly requested it is. If you cut that species out... I doubt that's the pack theme/format they're going with given how frequently they tend toward the higher requested critters.
Yeah I get the visual appeal and the NA rep but for me it’s just that it’s a slightly more fluffy Badger (with different colours obviously). It’s the least exciting for me to build for realistically.
Yeah in terms of the fun of building caprines >>> ungulates. They’re so much more fun to build for cause you can really play around with making rocky cliff enclosures.
Agreed. The top 3 right now I believe are coati, Secretary bird and Wolverine. I don’t think they would do the Wolverine in a summer or spring pack so we either get it next pack or wait until a potential fall 2024 pack, which even though the community has waited that long for an animal before (devil) I don’t know if they’re gonna risk it. I would think they would do Wolverine next, Coati (SA) in spring, and Secretary in the Sumer in whatever way they would like to form the pack.