Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

ZeeWolf · Oct 23, 2023

LittleAnt said:
You are right, SQ42 can be a nice looking flop if the gameplay is bad.
But for what I've seen from AI in SC when the server is brand new and from some missions in game, I doubt that SQ42 will be a flop.

Statistically though they have failed to release one single game.

That's a 100% failure rate. That's not even opinion. No released games since 2012.

It takes a heck of alot of crunch to release a game, the amount of games that have casually meandered into release state with no crunch is none. The best industry talent they hired have since left and they constantly say it's "two years away" like they think the general public are foolish.

Agony_Aunt · Oct 23, 2023

Veantur said:
A compilitaion of all Intergalactic Aerospace Expo Trailers from 2019 to 2023 and all Invictus Launch Week Trailers from 2020 to 2023. All clips/trailers what were released so far combined into one long video.

Source: https://youtu.be/wAB-HPMHWpo

Imagine the length of the trailer for what wasn't released!

Agony_Aunt · Oct 23, 2023

fzfq3m said:
They had the opportunity to put Bethesda to shame

Its ok, Bethesda need no help in that department

Agony_Aunt · Oct 23, 2023

VR Golgot said:
You seem tense

I always find a massage helps.

I don't think SC comes with a happy ending though.

Red Martian · Oct 23, 2023

Viajero said:
I personally don´t know. So, when do you think it will get actually released? Is sometime in 2025 a reasonably fair estimate? Perhaps 2026 to be on the safe side?

I've been seeing LittleAnt's same sentiment on the Reddit subforums, too. "You guys just want it to fail, you'll be so angry when it releases," and it's like no, I would love for it to be released. I paid good money for a game, why wouldn't I want it? How up your own rear do you have to be to believe people who paid three and four figure donations don't want their game they paid for?

StuartGT · Oct 23, 2023

I see our resident miniscule invertebrate is melting down over Sq42 not being in Beta, or server meshing not being ready for PTU.
Thanks for the popcorn entertainment, CitizenCon

StuartGT · Oct 23, 2023

Coloratura said:
I've been seeing LittleAnt's same sentiment on the Reddit subforums, too. "You guys just want it to fail, you'll be so angry when it releases," and it's like no, I would love for it to be released. I paid good money for a game, why wouldn't I want it? How up your own rear do you have to be to believe people who paid three and four figure donations don't want their game they paid for?

There's no room for nuance or criticism. SC loyalist logic is very simple:

ECity · Oct 23, 2023

StuartGT said:
I see our resident miniscule invertebrate is melting down over Sq42 not being in Beta, or server meshing not being ready for PTU.
Thanks for the popcorn entertainment, CitizenCon

Server meshing isn't even ready for the new pre-PTU.

VR Golgot · Oct 23, 2023

It's ok Pipeline say mini-Chris says it's all go for this year...

(If you've paid your dues or fallen through the correct number of floors etc)

rootsrat · Oct 23, 2023

Here's a question for you (from Facebook)

Agony_Aunt · Oct 23, 2023

VR Golgot said:
It's ok Pipeline say mini-Chris says it's all go for this year...

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(If you've paid your dues or fallen through the correct number of floors etc)

Pretty sure there was a statement from CIG saying unless something comes directly from CR then it cannot be taken as fact.

If something comes directly from CR, well, he absolved himself of all wrongdoing anyway, so it can't be taken as fact.

This does not stop backers believing everything CIG says is true, until it isn't, then they do a 180 and say CIG never promised anything.

fzfq3m · Oct 23, 2023

Agony_Aunt said:
Its ok, Bethesda need no help in that department

I know…

That’s why I think CIG has nothing. Think about it, it’s a low hanging fruit…

Wouldn’t you, the owner of the “better game” that is “feature completed” tap into that player base that was left a bit disappointed?

Agony_Aunt · Oct 23, 2023

rootsrat said:
Here's a question for you (from Facebook)

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LOL, how do you answer that question without throwing any shade?!

Right off the bat they make an unsubstantiated and unknowable statement, that they will be able to sell the engine for megabucks. Its highly likely that nobody would want to touch "StarEngine" with a 10 foot pole of disarming.

Factabulous · Oct 23, 2023

FUDsters! Replication is clearly here - so many tears!

LittleAnt · Oct 23, 2023

ZeeWolf said:
It takes a heck of alot of crunch to release a game, the amount of games that have casually meandered into release state with no crunch is none. The best industry talent they hired have since left and they constantly say it's "two years away" like they think the general public are foolish.

Weird reflexion. What if CIG is 1 or 2 years late precisely because they don't crush ?

Christopher Roberto · Oct 23, 2023

LittleAnt said:
But I understand, it's really a bad news here to know that SQ42 is near the beta stage.

I thought it was beyond beta as it just needs polish? Or was that the version from 2016 that was about to be released? Or the one after that where all the levels were greybox or better? I'm sure it can't be the version in 2019 as that was the alpha, and the 2014 version was a full release so it's not that either..

Viajero · Oct 23, 2023

rootsrat said:
Here's a question for you (from Facebook)

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The answer is relatively straightforward:

If you buy a game package, you are buying the game as is. Regular purchase, like buying any other game, as the game has been released in early access.
If you buy a ship that is in the game, same thing. Regular purchase, as the ship DLC is also released in the game.

The only case where it could be perhaps remotely considered that you are still "backing" is for vehicles that are in the concept stage, not yet in game. Alas, given SC´s ToS (and unless you contest those) in practicality you are not backing anything. You are just giving extra money to CIG, out of the goodness of your kind heart, without any obligation whatsoever for CIG to give you anything in return.

SQ42 can not be pre-purchased at this time. Hasn´t been available in the store for over 6 months.

SC ceased to be a crowdfunded project long ago, around 2016 as per CIG own statements.

Agony_Aunt · Oct 23, 2023

Factabulous said:
FUDsters! Replication is clearly here - so many tears!

"This isn't (rubbish). This is how you know its real"

Where has he been for the last 11 years? Its all (rubbish), its all smoke and mirrors, and very little of what CIG show off at the cons appear in the coming year.

Christopher Roberto · Oct 23, 2023

VR Golgot said:
It's ok Pipeline say mini-Chris says it's all go for this year...

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(If you've paid your dues or fallen through the correct number of floors etc)

I wonder what the new excuse will be for why everything doesn't work, and what the name of the new Jesus tech will be.

sovapid · Oct 23, 2023

Viajero said:
The only case where it could be perhaps remotely considered that you are still "backing" is for vehicles that are in the concept stage, not yet in game. Alas, given SC´s ToS (and unless you contest those) in practicality you are not backing anything. You are just giving extra money to CIG, out of the goodness of your kind heart, without any obligation whatsoever for CIG to give you anything in return.

You get a loaner ship in return. Until when/if the concept ship comes out.