Ground birds on the other hand…
Winter 2023 DLC Speculation
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Same, except for the gray fox. Like, I wouldn't want a fox to come unless it was that one
You tryna kill us?
Actually, I think the opposite, it adds to the fun. We get a curveball pack with nothing we speculated on, and it just makes us change some views on the next speculation
I still think flying birds could be possible. Just maybe not as many as people might like. Maybe in a way people might not like as well. If frontier could do flying birds in 2013 on zoo tycoon why not now? With frontier not doing so well it’s hard telling what direction they’ll go. Planet zoo has definitely made them money so longer support and more possibilities could present themselves in game.
When we are usually right in speculating the pack theme and the roster is not what we wanted, it turns out like this:
When we are completely wrong and we get a totally unexpected theme that mostly everyone loves, it turns out like this:
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Yeah cause when we talked the pack to death everybody has a perfect version they believe is reasonable in their head + atleast some general assumption what should be there.
For example the set up of spectacle bear, takin, goat, baboon, "rodent" (hyraxes arnt rodents but id group them with them regarding this pack niche) + 3 more is the go to for mountain pack which we mostly all agree on would be the way to go.
Now if we get a mountain pack that does not follow this structure + also includes animals that a large amount of people have an issue with there will be heavy backlash no matter the quality of the pack.
See tropical pack, id did everything right besides not conforming to the community expectation of being an animal pack focused on SA and having the wrong sloth so when it came out the dissapointment about what it was not was way larger then the appreciation of whats actually in it, which id say with exception of the sloth is a near perfect pack
I mean I’m pretty lenient with this roster. Mainly because the other options for this roster are still quite good. Rock Wallaby, Marmot, any of the other caprines (except bighorn or Rocky Mountain goat), theres very few I would be absololutley outraged if we got.
After catching up on the thread all I really have to say is... I'll be shocked if we get a highlands pack and it doesn't have the takin in it especially compared to, say, the yak. The conversation story is stronger and they're more requested while also being (I'd assume, at least) easier to make.
Oh, and I really don't see us getting the snub-nosed monkey. I think the chatter in these threads has been SA-centered enough that it would be a pretty goof up for them to say "Oh, you want monkeys?!! Here's the one nobody's asking for!"
Also: SteamDB got updated again today. Outsource_LQA of all things! I always forget how quick this time of year feels haha.
Oh, and I really don't see us getting the snub-nosed monkey. I think the chatter in these threads has been SA-centered enough that it would be a pretty goof up for them to say "Oh, you want monkeys?!! Here's the one nobody's asking for!"
Also: SteamDB got updated again today. Outsource_LQA of all things! I always forget how quick this time of year feels haha.
"Oh you want a lar gibbon?!! Here's a proboscis monkey!"
"Oh you want a howler monkey?!! Here's a capuchin monkey!"
Yeah i can see it happen. Recognisable monkeys or unique in nature will sell well with the casual audience.
But baboons are also unique in nature with the bright colours and baboons are a more common name for the public than the golden snub nosed monkey.
Regarding the golden monkey, my point of view is that I really want it, but there is a high probability that we will not have it. This is my intuition.
I mean, it could happen. But it would be an egregious misstep if it happened (and, TBH, I'm not sure they'd give us the gold-nosed in a highland spack instead of new world monkeys sometime down the line). I just think we're in a completely different era from the two examples that you cited.
Both were pre-meta wishlist so there wasn't really a public record as to what the community on the whole really wanted. And, TBH, I always assumed they went with the proboscis over the gibbon because (a) they weren't sure how to sort out brachiation at the time and (b) they assumed the proboscis' unique appearance would be a winner. And I'd like to think they learned from that misstep given how infrequently they're used in-game (they honestly do seem to be paying close attention in most scenarios with their DLC picks or there's a decent rationale for inclusion).
And again, people aren't just saying "we want monkeys." We're all talking about very specific monkeys in a very direct way now. They'd have to be asleep at the wheel to think that one pick would suffice, hah.
Thats THE fun part. Golden monkey isnt monkey nobody is asking for lol. Position 48 on wholesome meta-wishlist.
I swear i saw even more snub-nosed monkeys outside forum easily beating demand for NW primates, which are mostly forum thing.
yeah I think you’re alone on that one pal
We must be running in completaly different circles, then, because I haven't heard any mention of it. Haha. I've mostly just seen folks wanting South American monkeys. Good point about the wishlist, though. It's on there but... It still pales in comparison to the howler monkey, etc.
No he is not lol
This is what I have been saying, for a species to become popular, it is crucial to see it in a zoo. I don't know if the brothers in this community are all animal lovers, or zoo lovers. Because in terms of the responsibilities of modern zoos, golden monkeys have high value. On the other hand, I think the voting and the comments on this post perfectly explain what is called the "silent majority". Not to mention global players, it is probably the majority of players who browse this community and those who often speak in the community. Players have inconsistent views on certain animals, such as golden monkeys.
Well yeah but the community is pretty divided on that. We have the loudest voices wanting new world monkeys stating that nowhere else needs more primate representation. We have those split between South America and baboons for Africa, others like me desire more representation in Asia and Africa because the larger primates in popular regions are covered but not the more realistic options for realistic zoos ( not necessarily the golden snub nosed). I want colobus monkeys, lion tailed macaques, langurs, and baboons more than new world monkeys.
Fair points! Even myself... I low-key really want langurs and colobus monkeys. But my desire for the new world ones generally trump those, hah. I still want them, though. So yeah, it's unfair to say "nobody" wants monkeys outside of SA representation (which wasn't my intent; I had poor word choice there - and apologies to folks for that).
Then again, I also believe that if people really want these things badly they should be talking about them as much as possible (#TreeKangaroos) and I'm not referring to you haha (you talk about it enough that I'm not surprised by this take
).I’ve already voiced my opinion on the monkey subject. Spider monkey, baboon, howler and colobus are what matters to me, and seeing how we haven’t got a monkey in 13 packs (
) I think 4 is a good request.
) I think 4 is a good request.