Well f… I already had all my english dictionaries and thesaurus ready for action.I'm not getting into semantic battle of what modding means, thanks but no thanks
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You were sus to me from the start.
Viajero
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And in that context the ethical differences are huge as explained above.The discussion is very much in the context of CIG's behaviour by comparison to fdev behaviour
I fully sympathize if what you want is FDEV to publicly apologize or to actually add a new language, but I hope it is clear they have already suffered the serious consequences of their decision to launch with just 4 languages; in reviews, in refunds and in loss of prospective buyers who want a translation in a non supported language.
Meanwhile SC not only continues to sell 11+ years on translations that don’t exist but it also has the audacity to makes us pay to do it for them while they are still selling them.
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rootsrat
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Missed the point completely, but I can appreciate the humour
rootsrat
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Wait what? Please don't put words (or anything else) in my mouth. I never said that.
I said that it is not fair of them to not be clear and keep saying they will look into it for 10 years.
Funny bringing up the 4 million stretch goal, as it was a lot more than just that
Each new system would only cost 100k to add! Amazing!
Why are they even testing the Replication Layer if the 'known bugs' basically states 'it doesn't work'?
Whole 4 hours, wow. Does it get stale that quickly or is it so broken you cant bother normal players with it?
Because there is no replication layer - just words to conceal the lack of progress.
Oh no no… that meme is on point, Padme’s face is literally the expression I have right now.Missed the point completely, but I can appreciate the humour
I was left wondering what you answered with the semantics card because for me… a patch and a mod are different things…
But boy ooh boy… I was sooo wrong! Mod is literally derived from “to modify” according to various sources…
So, the only thing CIG needs to do is to released a small app that shows you the different lines of text the game uses, give you a way to edit that text and output the changes to some file(s) for StarEngine…
Boom
Professional Mod Tools!!!Or maybe they mean to release all the tooling created for StarEngine so people can modify the game with the same profesional tools the devs are using right now?
Anyways… here… you were right!!!
P.S I’m still wondering what’s the difference between a Patch and a Mod… but I better no ask a German dev because, apparently, for them is the same thing???
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Just to follow up as well.... SQ42 will release with 45 missions!!! Wow! And all for 4 million!
Have CIG said how many missions SQ42 is getting at last count?
rootsrat
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Again, I never said they have fulfilled the promise of having modding tools in game.Oh no no… that meme is on point, Padme’s face is literally the expression I have right now.
I was left wondering what you answered with the semantics card because for me… a patch and a mod are different things…
But boy ooh boy… I was sooo wrong! Mod is literally derived from “to modify” according to various sources…
So, the only thing CIG needs to do is to released a small app that shows you the different lines of text the game uses, give you a way to edit that text and output the changes to some file(s) for StarEngine…
Boom
Or maybe they mean to release all the tooling created for StarEngine so people can modify the game with the same profesional tools the devs are using right now?
Anyways… here… you were right!!!
P.S I’m still wondering what’s the difference between a Patch and a Mod… but I better no ask a German dev because, apparently, for them is the same thing???
I still think it's cool when a developer allows to modify their game in any way.
Elite allows HUD colour change via shaders for example. Or you can mod the configuration file to set up game graphics beyond settings available by default "Ultra" preset in game menu.
Allowing to add a full community game translation is on my "that's a great thing to have" list for any game, regardless of how broken the rest of it is. As I said, I won't waste my time on it, but if others want to - fine by me.
The ability to be able to do that is cool. If they promised a given language and then said "actually, do it yourselves" - then it's whole another matter.
Also, I'm fully used to being attacked and ridiculed in this particular thread for daring to speak good about CIG and praise them for something, so feel free to make more memes.
Credit where credit is due, CIG are really good at lying to their backers and raking in the cash based on empty promises!
With modding you own what you make* and aren't working for someone else. Even if the result is a derivative work, if you've made a substantial change you retain copyright on your own work. Community translation projects on the other hand will have you sign away your work, for free, and it's like a traditional employee-employer relationship. You're usually even taking on the legal risk of an employee, for free, as they'll have you sign a NDA. As the work is being sold for profit, there'd be no problem paying workers for it, those companies are just abusive.
* Unless you fall for one of those paid mod / mod manager swindles and sign everything away.
Ever get the feeling that, after ten years and barely 1.5 systems, it's just not going to happen? At this point, given the choice as to what's more likely, the release of Star Citizen with 10% of the Kickstarter promises included within the next five years, or the Amiga becoming a mainstream computing platform again. I think I'd choose the latter...
It's gonna be interesting to see if the database guy's hunch plays out over the long term:
- As he understands it if/when this instance of the game server gets destroyed the server will persist its state back to the Entity Graph. He sees this as a bold move
But yeah, they're not even at that stage yet by the sound of it
It's cute how they only peg the QT fuel exploit and train traumas to Server Meshing stuff. (The inability of players to enter a death state is just an unrelated mystery
)rootsrat
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Fdev did couple of community translations for Elite too