Yeah, this could work i guess, but after that i would put it aside.
I just doubt the sales gonna rise up massively after such initial release fiasco.
Seems Elite Dangerous will be continued!
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Yeah, this could work i guess, but after that i would put it aside.
I just doubt the sales gonna rise up massively after such initial release fiasco.
I think it's a shame that everything turned out this way.
Elite is still the best space simulation out there.
So much potential wasted...
Elite is still the best space simulation out there.
So much potential wasted...
You are saved, then!
Edit: truthfully, I'd have loved such news, too... and I don't mean about you and your chair
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As someone who is interested in the Thargoid stuffs, I’m beginning to be rather disillusioned how it has been left to fester and basically turned into a box ticking simulator by the “WaR WinNeR” crowd. No offense to them as people, and Frontier is partly to blame for letting it devolve into such a poor state to begin with, but in which world do you fight a war against a significantly older and more advanced species - A - without having to make any kind of strategic choices of which systems to defend preemptively or ignore outright if necessary, and - B - by pulling pieces of skin off of their ships repeatedly until they just decide to leave?
Yet when a rebalance occurred to cut some of that down, it was immediately met with a lot of complaining from the “war samplers”. But instead of the complaint being focused on the poor design of the alert state especially, it was “Why did you nerf this and make systems harder to clear so it is not guaranteed we can always stop the alien force from gaining any territory and invading human-populated systems?”. With some of the known sensible suggestions of making combat favorable in controls again(if it hasn’t been, but who’s going to test it?).
But letting the people who enjoy invasions have fun so you can continue “winning the war” that you’re so convinced you know where Frontier wants it to go that you refuse letting them balance their creation if they decide to? Mind-boggling.
Thanks for listening to my rant about the state of the
I’d like to be positive about it, but when I see the above, I’m not exactly filled with a warm fuzzy feeling. I just get annoyed at how stupid it is.
I think they meant it more like: every new weeks share value = last weeks share value × 0.8
which is an overexaggeration - however we went from 2.5k per share, down to 150 as of today... in the span of 2 years since odyssey... which is undenyable
rootsrat
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You're sorry the game is still alive after 9 years and will receive continued development and support for at least another year?
(Emphasis mine). If I had to guess, I'd say they did it as a lure for the non-combat oriented commanders. Of course, I speak as someone that is not interested in the Thargoid war, so it's not even an educated guess
For me, that would be allowing PayPal. Yeah, I know there's been a bit of a todo with PayPal but I loathe having to keep bunging my account details into websites. Once you've been a victim of fraud, things get a bit like that.How long before the console players turn up expecting EDO on consoles?
Seems like it might be time for fdev to fix the issues stopping people buying ARX if they want more $$$ from ED
There were plenty of options available for non-combat pilots through evacs already(and they were well known as an option long before this nonsense), and you’ll still end up having to shoot Scouts at the very least with sampling.(Emphasis mine). If I had to guess, I'd say they did it as a lure for the non-combat oriented commanders. Of course, I speak as someone that is not interested in the Thargoid war, so it's not even an educated guess
Frontier likely just added it to add relevance to an otherwise largely redundant feature. Except someone either missed a zero in the balance pass numbers somewhere, or they didn’t bother to fix it until they realized exactly to what extent it is used to cheese systems(see Taranis). The cheese factor coming primarily from how the “stockpile syndrome” sets in and allows people to hog their samples on a carrier for an indefinite amount of time(theoretically) until they decide to hand them in, and the Thargoids shrug, then head somewhere else.
At least there’s still a running story behind it that I can get behind. Well, I might still be playing even if not, but I’d be somewhere out as far as it gets from the Bubble, probably, looking at stars. And internally cursing yet another system full of frozen rocks.
"A really, really good space game" - OA has ED as one of the best space games of 2023. Nice to see him being more positive
Source: https://youtu.be/FxE78r6NZUw?t=327
So - not bankrupt in the next month...
That's okay then! o7
Ozric
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I'm just going to drop this here as a warning to knock off all of the snide comments you're making at each other, and the company. You've all had your fill of poking the same people over and over, as you do in virtually every thread, almost as though you've got nothing better to do.
I'd like to remind you that this is Frontier's official forum, and to show some respect to them and others. I'm just going to start yeeting people after this
I'd like to remind you that this is Frontier's official forum, and to show some respect to them and others. I'm just going to start yeeting people after this
Funny, as he actually says that elite is NOT one of the best space games of 2023, or did I mishear? Either way, elite is one of the best space sims ever. It's going to take a huge amount of effort to put it back on an upward trajectory. Sorry to be a doomah loomah, but I can't see that happening.
Which as you know is not the same as being a trusted third party in gambling or the definition used by the business community.I bought a new car in 2006, and have been driving it since. There are still parts to be had only from the manufacturer, so, I have a stake in the companies existence. Note: I won't be buying a Tesla anytime soon...
You misheard - he says it is one of the best space games.
This has always been one of the problems with the war and how it's balanced, in that it only really has three distinct balance points - win, lose or draw:
- Thargoids expand indefinitely at some rate, player choice is limited to which systems to save this week, and even then that will only be a temporary reprieve
- Thargoids are contained at a non-zero radius, endless stalemate in probably the least interesting way where no-one wants to push further because it won't be sustainable to hold it and it'll be a huge amount of effort to recapture the territory in the first place, but they can be held at that line permanently.
- Thargoids are contained at zero radius, war ends
Given that the Thargoid territory has been gradually shrinking for the last six months, on a pretty linear trend, it's not entirely clear what Frontier expected to happen eventually if not this. It could of course be the usual "oh, sorry, the widget isn't ready in time, could you slow down the plot a bit" problem - which is rather harder to address as a request to "player-led" narrative than to things more directly under writer control. (Olav Redcourt had quite a bit to say on that topic, I think)
The new balance point where it's still possible to knock over a Titan but it might require short-term sacrifices elsewhere is theoretically more interesting - it'll be interesting to see how it works out in practice. If it just ends up with the Thargoids retaking some systems and then accelerating the move to total stalemate then that's even worse, of course. Too early to say.
(The U17 spire additions certainly shook up the earlier stalemate in multiple ways - some of which I'm not sure have really been noticed yet - so it's not just the post-Taranis changes which are making things more difficult in certain areas)
Having looked all around the strategic layer to the best of our knowledge, I think the problems are relatively obvious and I'm having a hard time coming up with a solution that would actually work. The collective player tendency to generate static stalemates even if no individual player wants one is really tough to avoid. The bubble being too large to really make this work as anything but a sideshow is impossible to avoid. I can come up with multiple ideas to solve symptoms like "sampling" or "not enough Invasions" but those two big ones I cannot figure out a way around in anything resembling the current framework.
(Still very much of the view that flaws or otherwise it was absolutely right for them to try and they should be bold like that more often!)
I am quite content with the idea that the servers keep running and while new stuff can be good gradual fixing of the existing stuff would be fine.
He does say it's "one of the best space games out there", then goes on to say "However, it's not the best space game of 2023, at least not in my mind..." - all bets are hedged?
OA is not saying it is 'the best' space game of 2023. He is saying it is 'one of the best'. Which is why he put it in his 'best space games of 2023' video. HTHHe does say it's "one of the best space games out there", then goes on to say "However, it's not the best space game of 2023, at least not in my mind..." - all bets are hedged?