Seems Elite Dangerous will be continued!

@Star Wanderer
You're getting a bit confused there.
They mention "gross" revenue which is the total revenue those games made.
So, basically what they are saying is that they have made games in the past that were successful.
The chose not to release any specific financial info for ED or the others but they have said previously that ED is profitable.
As for AOS:ROR. the jury seems out until after XMAS.
 
How long before the console players turn up expecting EDO on consoles? 🤔

Seems like it might be time for fdev to fix the issues stopping people buying ARX if they want more $$$ from ED :)

That thread's still going from September;


Mind you, I don't see it happening, part of the problem being the existing classic ED account on XBOX are probably no longer compatible with the current version of the game and all those players still playing classic on XBOX'en would have to start all over again from scratch, unless of course FDEV let's them transfer that game they opted to create on PC when the option was available, they all did that right?
 
ETA: I also drive a car (quite a nice one) but don't consider it makes me a "stakeholder" - just a customer who gave them money for a limited life product.

In most elementary business studies courses, customers are considered stakeholders. Think about a company with skills and no product. Without considering customers as part of your business concerns, you're just making random stuff in the wind?
 
Considering the number of small businesses that go broke each year I am convinced that's exactly how most people start out in the business world, the ones who actually succeed are the ones who find a market for their random crap, the rest don't!

Yeah, well that's the other option, look to share your passion for something with the world and hope it makes money at the same time.

Frontier have displayed much evidence of not having really done either, hence their core value being minimum viable product. I think that's where they went wrong. I mean it worked fine in a specific scenario, the larger gaming industry being asleep and a zero entry genre.. that's their hindsight isnt it on how trying that in all but the bare minimum conditions doesn't work.
 
Or perhaps a Kumo Burger management game, starting with a kiosk and a crazy dream....
You start a Franchise vs other Franchises in a location (lets call it a system), you engage in Franchise wars with deep mechanics like fighting over actual locations (instead of just random spots in the carpark). The franchise economy actually matters, affected by material supply and demand (as opposed to you dropping literal tons marketing leaflets that you buy in limited quantity from corporate on...something). There's some kind of corporate structure and corporate relations, some franchises are actually fronts for bigger corps, non-directly competing franchises might even support each other and have complex diplomatic trade arrangements (beyond just starting wars with each other). It could be a powerfully playful concept. 😏
Elite dangerous has an absurd amount of untapped potential, it just desperately needs more reinvestment.
ED's had a fair amount of investment, the problem is if you put it in the wrong place you get crappy returns. Frontier might have had some recent experience with that...
I've still got my A1200 here if they ever get back into it :cry: (Along with every game they ever released for it)
Me too. I suspect if I tried to power it on it'd make grindy noises though.
 
Read between the lines of corporate-speak. ED's in their dead game collection there with F1 Manager and Realms of Ruin. So they'll probably keep the ARX store up, but their development focus will be their management games. I don't know why they're still gambling on new management IPs when they're not in a position to gamble, but then I've never worked at a company that keeps losing 20% of its value per week.
 
Sounds like the plan is being redrawn. I would expect a certain level of fluidity and unknown in the coming 12-18 months.

Hopes: Elite V (!)
Fears: No Elite V, insubstantial EDO
 
Read between the lines of corporate-speak. ED's in their dead game collection there with F1 Manager and Realms of Ruin. So they'll probably keep the ARX store up, but their development focus will be their management games. I don't know why they're still gambling on new management IPs when they're not in a position to gamble, but then I've never worked at a company that keeps losing 20% of its value per week.

TBH ED has been on low priority and finally in their 'dead' game collection since very long, even before Odyssey, including the 'bridging the gap' times where dev resources obviously were distributed to other projects, but IIRC way before that even while the company itself grew and grew, up to 800 employees in the end. Still, it prevails which I didn't take for granted when Braben stepped down, and they shipped an IMHO unexpectedly large amount of new content this year, including the Titans, Spires and so on. Given the IP-costly other titles in this group FD apparently set all their hopes on, namely F1 Manager and now RoR, their new flagship product as I got it, being in that group is remarkable in itself. In times of 'restructuring', layoffs, cost-cutting and such I would have expected them to close down this odd product first, but obviously they didn't. While I don't expect much for the future, that's good news for me. YMMV.

The downhill phase for both ED and FD started in May 2021 after the horrible launch of Odyssey which should have been given another year in hindsight. Expectations were high enough, with player numbers peaking at 21k concurrent and AFAIK being the highest ever. They just were not met, and oddly, stock prices and Steam charts are roughly interchangeable since then.

O7,
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I've been lucky enough to have had "Dinner with the Devs" and passion for ED and the future of it is still there. Sure, they can't really talk about it - and when they do (especially if they fail to deliver what they'd hoped to) - they get killed in the forums... so, have some faith. Or not. I'm going to continue to stay positive (and yeah, things change, and no one has a crystal ball).
 
FWIW I'm a bit torn on the announcement - on the one hand, they haven't explicitly said that ED is being end-of-life'd, but on the other they haven't explicitly said it's got a bright future. It feels to me like it's being put into stasis until they can figure out a) what the hell they do with it; and b) what the hell they do to dig themselves out of this hole they've got themselves into.
 
IMHO it's good news. They haven't come out and said they are sackng it off, quite the opposite so I'm taking it as a positive. Will be great if they direct some of that workforce back towards fixing the thousands of bugs that have been waiting patiently for years now.
 

rootsrat

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Saying they will continue support is a very vague statement.

It could be anything from just keeping the servers on, to adding more Thargoid types, to the overhaul of a major system (still waiting on that one), to a new DLC.

So excuse me while I don't get too excited about this news until we see what it really means.

What it really means is that the people who were foretelling Elite being ded 9th year in a row were wrong (again) :D

Personally, I'm happy to know they will keep developing for it (it does say support and development, rather than just support), whatever it might be.

New content is new content!
 
We clearly have read different things. Because the 4 successfull game do not include ED.
In fact they put ED together with Realms of Ruins - which failed miserably in steam sales: https://steamdb.info/app/1844380/charts/

So i don't see how putting ED in the same category as other dead game is a good thing. :unsure:

This is the correct way how to "understand" theese news when it comes to ED.
So folks here should not expect much at all, ED will be just simply supported, nothing more. They won't massively increase dev resources for it.

Also, i don't understand why they still want to support AoS while it obviously massively failed.
 
What it really means is that the people who were foretelling Elite being ded 9th year in a row were wrong (again) :D
There are those who claim the Amiga isn't dead for various reasons, and in a sense they're right. However, the court of common opinion has the Amiga as dead as the Dodo, and in a sense they are also right.

I see ED as a bit Amigarish at present :)
 
What it really means is that the people who were foretelling Elite being ded 9th year in a row were wrong (again) :D

Personally, I'm happy to know they will keep developing for it (it does say support and development, rather than just support), whatever it might be.

New content is new content!

I'm happy the doomsayers are wrong (again). But im just not going to get excited if "development" means yet another thargoid variant.

Now, if instead FD said "We now realize ED is our most important franchise and we are going to fully commit to its improvement over the coming years, including the release of 3 new DLCs over the next 10 years", then i'd fall off my chair!
 
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