Elite Dangerous Crowdfunding Support?

I'd buy some merch - specifically, I want a travel mug like the ones they added to the bars in zero gravity environments, with the Elite logo on.
 
The last time frontier was flush with money from elite didn't exactly turn out as this thread was imagining, so maybe the question is, why would frontier not use any excess funds to pay for another team to make a new release title that could earn more than an elite expansion? Today it would probably just go into making sure one of the planet sequels is extra good for launch? While giving elite an mvp patch to say they did something.

Its what they do, elite paid for jwe and planet zoo, which paid for f1 manager, publishing and warhammer. So basically 5 skeleton games instead of 2 full ones.

EDIT: okay, and to be very fair, those other games paid for 5 years of odd development as well :)
 
Money doesn't make Frontier able to produce good games. You just mentioned RoR, they didn't make that out of cotton candy. They poured money into it, and what did they get? A flop. Only Frontier would be surprised that the people that gave us powerplay, CQC, 3 ring bio-scanning, a lifeless galaxy, totally broken economy produced a game people find uninteresting.
 
[...] However, I think these days the potential for a game to not be a smashing success at release but then find its groove later is a lot greater, [...]
Absolutely. It's a consequence of how many game studios are run nowadays. Games are rushed out, unfinished, buggy, with bad performance and a whole list of DLCs already planned out.

That leaves players with a choice: Buy an absolute disaster now for 60 bucks, or wait a while and get the actual finished game for 20.

Time also washes away some unnecessary hype and it becomes more likely that people only buy the game because they are actually interested in the concept of the game, not just because it's the next big thing everybody's talking about.
 
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Or you could just do it right like Baldur's Gate 3 🤷‍♂️ Niche game also, where the devs actually produced a traditional RPG instead of being "modern" and making an action game. Stuck to their guns and were true to their vision, wonder how many people told them they were wrong for doing that.
 
Hi All :)
What do you mean "a different view"? One is throwing cash in a fire - the other is wasting it for petty baubles, but at least you get some glass jewelry.
Ah, perhaps (to make my statement more clear) what I should have written was "A different view or slant on the subject matter that interests me personally and how other posters / players have obviously different viewpoints regarding said Topic". :)
Your own personal viewpoint on this subject matter also interests me personally, as it makes clear (to me) you don't think giving actual money to Frontier in relevance to the subject matter of this topic worthwhile. Also, buying ARX for whatever reasons (ship paint jobs etc. etc.) is also to you (I think from my perspective or 'view' of above post) also fairly pointless or wasteful in your own personal view.
Fair enough, I accept your above viewpoint and it does interest me personally as I get another players thoughts (for whatever reasons) on this subject matter. :)

Jack :)
 
Hi All :)

Ah, perhaps (to make my statement more clear) what I should have written was "A different view or slant on the subject matter that interests me personally and how other posters / players have obviously different viewpoints regarding said Topic". :)
Your own personal viewpoint on this subject matter also interests me personally, as it makes clear (to me) you don't think giving actual money to Frontier in relevance to the subject matter of this topic worthwhile. Also, buying ARX for whatever reasons (ship paint jobs etc. etc.) is also to you (I think from my perspective or 'view' of above post) also fairly pointless or wasteful in your own personal view.
Fair enough, I accept your above viewpoint and it does interest me personally as I get another players thoughts (for whatever reasons) on this subject matter. :)

Jack :)
I actually don't mind people spending cash on their toys.
It's these threads asking to make a crowdfunded cash bonfire that get me.
 
It's these threads asking to make a crowdfunded cash bonfire that get me.
Why?
You are aware that people would have a choice in participating or not, and that nobody would be actually forced to support such a move, aren't you?
I do understand that, to some here, FD are a vile company who dared to change a game 7 years ago and killed any joy in it - but there are sufficient others, still playing, who feel that the game has improved over the last 7 years - why would you wish to take their voice from them?
 
Hi :)

I actually don't mind people spending cash on their toys.
It's these threads asking to make a crowdfunded cash bonfire that get me.
:D....Yep, point taken, I feel your pain in some ways!
I was part of the crowd funding / kickstarter for Star Citizen, now, personally speaking I now think that was a waste of my money. There again, if 'Squadron 42' was to suddenly appear in my account I have with them, and it was in a reasonable condition to play I might change my views of the game...wherever it is at this moment in time.:rolleyes:....:D
Anyway, just to add if you're interested, I think ED is Brilliant in it's background Universe, always have since Frontiers Elite 2. I was part of the kickstarter, I don't think my contribution was wasted, far from it, David Braben produced the game, not exactly how I would have liked it (at the moment) but it's here, I'm actually playing it now as I look in on the Forum.

I've gathered quite a lot of information by reading this topic and peoples reply's, so my original thoughts concerning this topic have changed slightly. I now have a more detailed knowledge of the financial aspects of Frontier, some players aspirations of how to keep the game 'alive' in a broad sense, and how strongly some players views are surrounding this subject.
To me personally speaking your views are genuinely interesting. ;)

Jack :)
 
They've quite totally failed in giving to the players what they mostly looked for...
That's not entirely true though, is it? The thing is, with comments like these, they will reel off things that THEY want and ignore what FDev have done that the players have asked for. Plus, at the end of the day, FDev are making the game, not us
 
Money doesn't make Frontier able to produce good games. You just mentioned RoR, they didn't make that out of cotton candy. They poured money into it, and what did they get? A flop. Only Frontier would be surprised that the people that gave us powerplay, CQC, 3 ring bio-scanning, a lifeless galaxy, totally broken economy produced a game people find uninteresting.
Someone needs a snickers.
 
I actually don't mind people spending cash on their toys.
It's these threads asking to make a crowdfunded cash bonfire that get me.
The only scenario where I think crowdfunding could work as a measure and achieve a desired result is for full VR. It's niche enough that I can understand Frontier not wanting to invest in it but at the same time those who want it are highly invested players who aren't afraid to spend, judging by some of the $3,000 VR headsets that are coming on the market at the moment, so I think there is more of a realistic chance that those who want it will follow through accordingly. It's also an area where I think Frontier could garner a lot of marketing hype and reestablish a leading position.
 
The only scenario where I think crowdfunding could work as a measure and achieve a desired result is for full VR.
I do wonder if doing so is as simple as others (possibly better informed than I) consider it to be, if it was that quick & easy FD could have gained some goodwill - and free publicity - by just adding it in once EDO was performing as it is now.

I'd put my hand up to back it - without a 2nd thought - provided that, in doing so, FD didn't tank performance along the way. (Yes, I enjoy playing in VR)
 
I do wonder if doing so is as simple as others (possibly better informed than I) consider it to be, if it was that quick & easy FD could have gained some goodwill - and free publicity - by just adding it in once EDO was performing as it is now.

I'd put my hand up to back it - without a 2nd thought - provided that, in doing so, FD didn't tank performance along the way. (Yes, I enjoy playing in VR)
I can't say how easy it would be to add and to what degree. Frontier haven't needed to worry about implementing VR controllers - what with it being a seated cockpit view, which the HOTAS works much better anyway - which will have to be a thing for onfoot stuff, which then leads to how to implement using the tools, and also does it need to be implemented to the point where you can use the cockpit controls with vr controllers? And then all of the HUD etc..

That's the sort of thing that Frontier could, if they were inclined to consider it, estimate the development cost and then figure out what portion of that they'd be willing to invest vs what the crowd funding would have to bring in. In regards to the above, the positive aspect of crowdfunding it could be that VR controller support for onfoot aspects could be one tier and then work up from that for the full vr experience in the cockpit.
 
There comes a point in every project when you have to shoot the engineers and put the product into production.
---- Bob Lewis (Keep the Joint Running)​

I, too, shall now discontinue going off-topic.

And yes, if you want to support Fronter, buy Arx. No one says you have to use them, just buy them. It will serve the same purpose.
"When you're landed outside a CMD center, take out the 1st person you see then kill the nosy investigator who opens the door to rubber neck. That gets you inside even without a scan" -Schmack
 
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