I've heard it tossed around now and then - probably a bit less than I had made it sound but IMO a few times is more than enough. It seems to be the #1 pick for NA's "essential" deer. To each their own though, I don't wanna shame anybody lol
Spring 2024 DLC Speculation
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Never seen it here in the forums, often it gets compared to other essential NA animals like the black bear but at least the asking for the black bear is understandable.
Ugh. the White Tailed Deer. Don't get me wrong, I really think they're beautiful animals in real life, and am always happy to see them in our lot. But for inclusion in a zoo game they're just so...mundane. Literally any other animal that's not a squirrel would be vastly more interesting for inclusion.
There's isn't much to explain though. I find scenerios more fun because of the challenges and the rewards statues, i like franchise more because i love the idea to send your animals to a zoo to another and to trade animals, and to a certain extend i prefer challenge because i need to think about my animal selection and what order i need to put them. Sandbox has nothing going for it IMO.Hmmm I need an explanation here
Its funny how different people are
All i play is sandbox, and honestly if PZ only had Challenge, Franchise and Scenario im pretty sure i wouldnt play the game at all
Same. I want full creative freedom.Its funny how different people are
All i play is sandbox, and honestly if PZ only had Challenge, Franchise and Scenario im pretty sure i wouldnt play the game at all
I couldn't build 200+ air conditioning pieces if we didn't have sandbox, the excitement alone of building the same box over and over is peak planet zoo gameplay
The only way I will believe a dlc is really coming is when outsource_lqa will be updated. The same happened to the hybrid dlc.
It can, but when it's been a single other app, I've not seen any cases where it wasn't for a DLC app (definitely been the case for the last 6 months. For every DLC the first ever changelist of the app is with JWE2, followed by a few garbage changelists, just like this unknown app).
The exact wording on the FAQ: "App and package updates do not even have to be related to the app/package itself as Valve does periodical changes to a batch of apps/packages. Usually when such a change happens, it affects many apps at once."
By the sounds, there's a chance of being random, but other garbage would generally be expected.
Before i play the game outside of management it should first add enough management to qualify for its management tag.
The game has no challenge outside of creative building ones so why should anyone engage with the tedium of its modes outside of sandbox?
Jwe2 had 5 weeks between an update and release, considering how it still isn't updated I'm starting to lean towards a may release which kind of overlaps the summer dlc a little too much. Who knows maybe the big one is coming near the end of the financial year.Really still no fqa or lqa updates in SteamDB? I can’t believe there’s still nothing and it’s almost April.
What kind of challenges are you looking at? scenery modes have the challenge of making you meet the objectives and timed scenarios have the bonus challenge of making it on time, while franchise and challenge need you to overcome problems such as animal stress and animal populations growing or shrinking, and the lack of specific animals on franchise.
And yes, i agree that it lack managing in this game, but let's be fair, sandbox on release was quite underwhelming as well, and it's only "good" right now after frontier update it 5 times, while all the other modes and managing aspects where left to rotten, so maybe it's time to left sandbox to the side and work on everything else.
Another month of crazy speculation, oh boy
On topic of white-tailed deer, I'd personally like to see it in the game. North America still feels like it's missing a proper filler generic ungulate and this is like the perfect one.
Something I've noticed on the forum in general is that people seem to either really want to see their native fauna in the game or are realllly not fond of the idea (both sides typically being Europeans and North Americans). Personally as one of the former I've never really got the whole "I don't want animals I could see in my backyard in my zoo game" argument, I love the fallow deer, red deer, wild boar, red fox, European badger.... All make for great additions to a European section and I think making native fauna displays is very fun.
Likewise I never got the hate for Twilight being a roadkill pack lol, the raccoon and skunk were both super unique common small zoo animals which make a nice fit anywhere. To be fair neither of these animals are here in Britain but the red fox is certainly equivalent and I feel like there wasn't as much dislike to it from Europeans as North Americans had to the raccoon and skunk.
Something I've noticed on the forum in general is that people seem to either really want to see their native fauna in the game or are realllly not fond of the idea (both sides typically being Europeans and North Americans). Personally as one of the former I've never really got the whole "I don't want animals I could see in my backyard in my zoo game" argument, I love the fallow deer, red deer, wild boar, red fox, European badger.... All make for great additions to a European section and I think making native fauna displays is very fun.
Likewise I never got the hate for Twilight being a roadkill pack lol, the raccoon and skunk were both super unique common small zoo animals which make a nice fit anywhere. To be fair neither of these animals are here in Britain but the red fox is certainly equivalent and I feel like there wasn't as much dislike to it from Europeans as North Americans had to the raccoon and skunk.
The problem with the White Tailed Deer for me isn't anything to do with where its from, its just that its flat out boring. Its not that unique in appearance in comparison to other deer we have like the red or fallow, and its just another deer to build boring forest enclosures for. The elk at least is a bit distinctive in appearance and has some unique calls, but I'm not dying for either. I don't get how NA is missing a generic ungulate when there really aren't any that are extremely interesting, the only one that is is the Moose which we have.
Isnt being kinda boring the whole point of generic filler ungulates? I mean red and fallow deer, blackbuck, most african antelopes those are all animals that really all that interesting or exciting but still important animals to have in a zoo game.
Im not from NA so idk if they have NA deer on display in zoos and stuff, but as an outsider the lack of a normal deer is the most obvious niche not filled in the NA mammals roster
From my experience, reindeer and moose seem to be the most popular NA deer which of course is already ingame. Other deer like white tailed, mule deer and elk vary in each region but are displayed enough to warrant a need for them. Not as popular as the American black bear but on a general scope of the potential roster they can be viewed as equal needs.
To elaborate on my thoughts on the deer; My problem with the deer isn't that its boring - I love having more "boring" animals - it's just that its not common nor unique enough to warrant being "needed" or "essential". Wanted, sure, but far from needed. The niche of a deer in NA may be absent, but there are far more interesting, unique, zoo-relevant niches that are too - looking at birds alone (which NA still has none of) native wading birds, waterfowl, and to a lesser extent game birds are all just as, if not more common in NA zoos than any native deer species - and would arguably add more to the game's overall roster as well. I think a NA deer would be a solid addition and I've come around on the white tail after getting into further research on its captive presence. Although I do think giving Asia a deer would be more beneficial as they seem to be far more relevant to zoos over there.
In short, I don't think a NA deer is essential, but I'd be open to it... if we had another year or two left - and if we do, then yeah, sure, why not. That's just me though.
In short, I don't think a NA deer is essential, but I'd be open to it... if we had another year or two left - and if we do, then yeah, sure, why not. That's just me though.