Titan War - Leigong Rewards

If Leigong is your 1st participation on the destruction of a Titan you'll get the reward for a 1st time participation...
Sorry to say, but simple as that... 🤷‍♂️
My dissapointment because if 1 missed 1 titan, i will receive all next rewards for previous titan.
2nd titan for the 1st, 3rd will be reward for 2nd and so on.
 
Hmm, so expecting to be able to skip the first 7 Titans and then turn up and get the 8 star final Titan decal? Very forum ;)
I think there is a bit more to it than that. I think that Frontier perhaps by accident has created the perfect FOMO machine.

The last update included the ability to kill Titans, we had no way of knowing that. Taranis was already weak and it was attacked from the start so things happened quite quickly.

Frontier then revealed that they had an elaborate loot systems for killing the titans and that each kill would yield unique loot. They also mentioned that the loot would get better and better. It LOOKED like the loot might work in the way we now know it does, but you know Frontiers track record with wording. Honestly I wasn't sure until Leigong went down.

Frontier then had to specify the timeframe you needed to be within to get valid bonds, one week. Soon after Taranis went down and I am pretty sure some people got caught out.

Now we know what the rules are: You are only going to get the rewards for participating in this TWO YEAR LONG story arc if you are playing the week each and every titan goes down. No, you have no way of knowing when these weeks are going to happen. Yes, it will happen over the summer vacation. No, you have no way of knowing what the rewards are so you can determine if you think it's worth it. Yes, you will loose rewards from the "shiny end" if you miss a titan.

I do think Frontier were quick to point us in the direction of dying Taranis. I also think it's good that they have rewarded people for just being in the Taranis and Leigong systems since open is bugged. But I also think that this way of rewarding players is likely to cause more hostility than it had to.

There will certainly be people who feel that because of events beyond their control they miss out on the "best" rewards for participating in this very long war. Stuff like illness, travel, technical issues.

There will also be people who buy into the FOMO and watch the titans like hawks planning socially around the kills. They are likely to afterwards be angry that they rewards do not live up to their expectations.
 
we had no way of knowing that
we had "lets create new anti thargoid weapon" CG, just before update, we also had streams.

We KNEW that they will add something with titans. What we didnt knew was thing about rewards (or maybe they said that, I could rewatch their streams, it isn't big deal, since now they put 4 different games in 1h stream, so average 15 minutes per game).
Actually only people which didn't knew "observe" elite as game to similar degree with average hobbit observing situation in whole middle-earth.
So sorry, but no. People which "didnt know" werent tricked by frontier. They were tricked by their own no paying attention.

I'm so sorry, but if people have FOMO connected with...decal it really is issue of people, not something wrong on side of devs. Also- if you will OBSERVE game you WILL know, when fireworks will happen. You play in online game- so communicate with people and engage in community efforts to better understand what and when will happen 🖖
I observe efforts around titans, and even now I can say "Oya will die not earlier than at may". Time will show, how good my estimation is.

Btw, "loot" isn't "better and better". It isn't rpg, where sword with 100dmg is always better than sword with 90dmg. Personally I prefer kit for chieftain, not cobra, so for me #1 was actually better than #2 ;)
 
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The last update included the ability to kill Titans, we had no way of knowing that. Taranis was already weak and it was attacked from the start so things happened quite quickly.
taranis was already weak as it was attacked from the start. and you had no idea that it will fall first? its not like we didnt see it coming...
while it did indeed fall very fast, it is a testament to the collective effort of all the players that actually paid attention, were active or came back for the show, and were present at the right place in the right time indeed. thats how rewards work.
They also mentioned that the loot would get better and better.
really? where? you mean cosmetics relfecting commanders progress in the titan slaying? the stars and bars on decals?
(not like i can say that the rewards arent actually getting better and better with this new cg)
It LOOKED like the loot might work in the way we now know it does, but you know Frontiers track record with wording. Honestly I wasn't sure until Leigong went down.
you might need glasses because we saw it just fine. (we who were there)
Frontier then had to specify the timeframe you needed to be within to get valid bonds, one week. Soon after Taranis went down and I am pretty sure some people got caught out.
though it wasnt as much as specifying the rules after its death, was it? fdev did retroactively made the rules easier (twice!) - you just had to be in the system to qualify for rewards. going forward you will have to qualify in the right timerframe...
im pretty sure some people get caught out. which is unfortunate, but thats just life sometimes, isnt it?
Now we know what the rules are: You are only going to get the rewards for participating in this TWO YEAR LONG story arc if you are playing the week each and every titan goes down.
the thing is... (correct me if im wrong) but the people who actually did actively and regularly participate in the 2 year story are there for the last week of titans life. as well as for the middle as they were there on the first week of titans arrival.
none of them have problem with understanding if 2 million are 2 million, none of them have problem with understanding that week is a week, none of them have problem with understanding that explosion is explosion and meltdown is a meltdown and that free arx go brrr with free ship kits as a cherry on the top. (god forbid three more paint jobs just for sticking your nose for a bit into titans remains)
who are there more than a week, getting more than 2 million, there when the hearts fall, there when the last core gets destroyed, there for the countdown and for the explosion; those get rewarded. as they should.
if you are trying to just weasel yourself in for the rewards you might have some difficulties, perhaps. though the bar had been set so low that i think some people are trying to limbo with satan in hell.
if you are not able to participate in any way for absolutely unavoidable reasons (or you are just normal person with normal priorities in life) then im sorry you dont get the free pc game cosmetics thingy, but thats just life sometimes, isnt it?
No, you have no way of knowing when these weeks are going to happen.
if you stay in the loop, pay attention and are active in the game, you will know when.
Yes, it will happen over the summer vacation.
yes, it might happen over the summer vacation. if you are on a beach and you are grumpy cos you dont get pixel bling for big pixel starfish go boom then what are you doing my friend?
No, you have no way of knowing what the rewards are so you can determine if you think it's worth it. Yes, you will loose rewards from the "shiny end" if you miss a titan.
yes, there is a very good way how to 'predict' what ships are going to get the rewards. its called logic. if you are confused what the nature of the rewards is going to be, then perhaps refer game news...
by accident
surely :)
the perfect FOMO machine.
do not succumb to the fomo! be vigilant! resist! stay with us! :c
 
I seem unable to get my point across so I will try to narrow it down more:

This is in Elite Dangerous terms an important and long-running story arc. For the grand finale the game sets you certain tasks.

The tasks are not skill-based. The gameloop in question is quite simple.

The tasks are not based on cooperation. In fact it is much more difficult to complete them in open. For you nit-picky types: Yes you can complete them in private groups but the point still stands.

The tasks are not grind based either. You can't just brute force them when you have time.

The tasks are in fact more luck-based. You need to be able to log on and play during 8 one-week periods that occur due to events beyond your control. Again for you nit-picky types, I am aware that a single run is enough but the point still stands.

What is my point?

1: This is more complex than "noob/scrub/lazy players just want free rewards"

2: This is a game design that is probably quite likely to cause players who are invested in the game to become upset.

What is the solution? Possibly provide more ways to complete the tasks that are grind or skillbased.

I do not have any horses in this race personally. I am just making an observation on human nature and game design.

God's speed commanders, and good night.
 
I'm pretty sure that FDev didn't tell us to attack Taranis first; that was something that a majority of the playerbase decided through their collective actions. Theoretically the Pilots Federation could have gone for one of the stronger Titans instead, which would have meant more time for others to get involved. But many Commanders were clearly keen on claiming a Titan kill as early as possible, so Taranis was the first to fall, having had a massive target drawn on it by various player-led anti-xeno organisations.

I'm not convinced that adding more "grind" or "skill" would remedy the situation. People are apparently willing to fight the war against Thargoids through grindy scout sampling, hence why Taranis was so weak in the first place. And basing it on especially skilled AX combat instead would give an outsize advantage to those players willing and able to put in the hours required to "git gud", which to me would leave even more players out than the current approach.
 
I disagree with the notion that people are "missing out on the rewards of this 2 year story arc" if they do not get the Titan combat rewards, and I say that knowing full well I won't get all 8.

There were plentiful CGs during the Thargoid War that awarded unique paintjobs to reflect one's service to the cause. For example I'm rather fond of the AEGIS paintjob for my iClipper and AX Gunship. I've "only" been playing for maybe 4 years, and in that time there's always been CGs with exclusive paintjobs. They're just time capsules you can put on your ships, friends. They look nice, but they are to reflect a time and space. Don't forget this!
 
2: This is a game design that is probably quite likely to cause players who are invested in the game to become upset.

What is the solution? Possibly provide more ways to complete the tasks that are grind or skillbased.

I do not have any horses in this race personally. I am just making an observation on human nature and game design.

God's speed commanders, and good night.
With all due respect
You are theorycrafting problems for people that have no problems. Those that are invested. If you arent, then please dont speak for us.
Seriously, please, find something better to do. Your observations are wrong.
 
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I gather that it's just supposed be a reward for playing the game and participating in the destruction of the titans.

Of course leave it to gamers on a forum to find fault with a company giving out rewards.

There is that old saying about not looking a gift horse in the mouth.. :)
 
This is a game design that is probably quite likely to cause players who are invested in the game to become upset.
Is it really?

Odd, as I may not be considered "invested" in any game (an odd concept, but, meh, that is just my outlook), but have been playing this one for quite some time (7 years-ish), have missed participating in many CGs over that time, for different reasons, yet have never thought "I'm off because I didn't get those lovely multi-cannons".

I do understand that the requirement of playing a game, and interacting with a particular piece of content, within a loose window, might be considered inconvenient by some...

If missing that window is going to cause one to leave the game, well, "invested" isn't the word I'd use...

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FOMO against me. I have a squadron Farcanonn expedition toward Beagle Point, with target date 18th May. I will run toward Beagle Point when the date is closer, but before the trip, I will hit the current Titan for 2M bonds or more, and will dock in the closer station to my FC. I have 1 week for the route toward Beagle Point, make the screenshots, enter a FC, use the escape pods to return ot the bubble, and return ot my last docked station, ready to hit the current titan another 2M bonds to avoid lossing the rewards. And transfer my ship (or stored modules, and sell my ship, both work). I use and abuse the mechanics to my own benefit.

Its a terrible expedition, but we are at the end of the Thargoid War Storyline, with incoming updates, new ships and more. I canceled my plans for bringing my FC and other players with me (I had the route to save fuel), and not a discovery expedition, only the waypoints and the final goal, but at this moment, is what the game provide me. And at worst, I only lose the ARX for each heart.... 0.35€ the 8 hearts, the shipkit and decal is ensured.

The good part, I like this time management problem, did a similar trick with escape pods, apex shuttle, and the "change to horizons (now Stuck option)" to teleport from first Stargoid approach to Reinadi planetary collision, and back toward my FC before the last thargoid approach.... the same day my wife and me put a crafts market in the local Manga convention. But everything can be done if organized.

I will made a better exploration trip, but outside the current narrative and special rewards. And always with SuicideStockDBX or Escape Pods as quick return. Its a eternal fight against FOMO, but at ATM, I always won until our next battle.
 
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I understand that people have busy lives and all, but an hour's worth of gameplay in any given week seems extremely reasonable for anyone wanting to participate, especially when the galaxy map and sites like dcoh.watch both let you see these particular weeks coming a mile away.

If you know you're going to be away for a long period of time, could always try via steam deck.
 
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