That would be the logical assumption....
Don't leave your ship on the landing pad when reactivating settlements!
- Thread starter Badpun
- Start date
Yes, that is the logical assumption. I would've thought they wouldn't be powered up either. But I've always requested landing permission on any settlement mission because... doesn't hurt to ask. I particularly love landing on the pad at offline sites where I'm coming in to clean out scavengers. Love watching the ones there (as opposed to the waves that show up as soon as I arrive in DBXes) open fire on my ship as I come in to land. Even more fun to blow them away while under the cover of my ships shields.
Always have plenty of shields on ships you use on these missions. The ones I typically use are my Mamba, Vulture, and Imperial Courier.
Ive been driving in and dismissing ship... after I landed on one (on the pad) , got out and had a bunch of pirates, staring at me, then open fire.
(fortunately id dimembarked in the SRV, so just reversed full speed, and dismissed the ship)
(fortunately id dimembarked in the SRV, so just reversed full speed, and dismissed the ship)
If you go looting after the power-up there's the possibility of Scavengers who could potentially destroy your ship if its parked at the landing pad, I always park off-site and use my Scarab, if the Scav's show up they usually destroy my Scarab which tells me they have arrived and I need go deal with them before continuing my robbery spree - the payout more than covers the cost of a lost Scarab but I wouldn't risk my ship
I have never seen scavs arrive once power is up.
Doesn't happen often but I've had several waves arrive on one occasion during my looting activities, if they do arrive its usually only one small group but like I said it rarely happens but still wouldn't want to risk my ship just in case
Yeah I just had this happen to me. Got wanted in Benanekpeno because I was parked on the pad when I brought the power back online. Guess I'll go fight for the Thargoids now.
This is still happening in 18.06 unfortunately. It's quite immersion breaking when you feel like you're doing something good and end up leaving like a thief (if you even make it alive).
I had an armoured AX combat ship and was down to 60% hull when I realized the AX pilots in the area were shooting my ship because of the landing pad.
Surprisingly, I couldn't find an issue report for this so I created one.
Feel free to vote it up so it doesn't get lost Link to issue
I had an armoured AX combat ship and was down to 60% hull when I realized the AX pilots in the area were shooting my ship because of the landing pad.
Surprisingly, I couldn't find an issue report for this so I created one.
Feel free to vote it up so it doesn't get lost Link to issue
And what is the issue?
To land on a landing pad you need to request docking permission.
IF you dont have docking permission, you dont land on the pad - simple as that. You just land anywhere near the settlement, but at a safe distance from pads or buildings (so you dont get flagged for trespassing)
I always land some distance from the settlement and drive in. Any scavs show up on scanner from ~500m and I can deal with them from range, (the pad makes a nice clear firing range for this purpose) and once the kettle power is on I can park right outside whichever building I'm salvaging from.
I kinda like the variation between the different missions - some do struggle with any kind of changes.
Happened to me once ages ago, reactivating one of those Agri settlements where you have to make your way through multiple other buildings to reach the power centre. I dismissed the ship, parked my SRV and made my way through all the doors, and when I powered up the settlement I got some sort of trespass/pad blocking message. By the time I'd worked out what was going on and run back to the SRV I think I'd earned a bounty on myself. I realised the problem was that I'd parked it on the edge of the landing pad. Ground my teeth at the time, but live and learn, haven't done it again.
These days I just fly low and slow over settlements as I'm coming in to land, if I take incoming fire my approach depends what mood I'm in - might just take out the scavs with missiles, if I fancy a bit of foot combat I land a little way away, dismiss the ship and take the Scorpion (hiding it behind a rock or slope before closing in on foot). If there's no incoming fire I land nearish the power station entrance and walk in. I know there may be some chance scavs will drop in but it hasn't happened to me to date, every time I've seen additional sets of scavs it was when there was a set of scavs to start with.
These days I just fly low and slow over settlements as I'm coming in to land, if I take incoming fire my approach depends what mood I'm in - might just take out the scavs with missiles, if I fancy a bit of foot combat I land a little way away, dismiss the ship and take the Scorpion (hiding it behind a rock or slope before closing in on foot). If there's no incoming fire I land nearish the power station entrance and walk in. I know there may be some chance scavs will drop in but it hasn't happened to me to date, every time I've seen additional sets of scavs it was when there was a set of scavs to start with.
The issue is you can't request docking permission since the settlement is offline, this also implies it is safe to land since you're coming to repair/help the place.
If it is implied that you shouldn't land on the pad despite the settlement being offline and you being an ally, then I believe it should at least be written in the mission description like other requirements or warning are already being displayed.
Note that you don't even get a pad loitering warning when you land on the pad so even more reason that it is quite insidious to fine you when the settlement is reactivated.
I am not sure you're referring to my comment but if that is the case, this was the first time I do this type of mission and I have still to try the other types.
Only Odyssey type mission I have done so far is data courier so this is usually fine regarding docking request.
Never trust any mission.
With the settlement without power how can they give you a loitering warning.
This behaviour and the behaviour of burning stations demanding docking requests from rescuers makes me think it is quite possibly a simple automatic system with no judgement capabilities.
It's definitely automatic in the case of the settlements, because... nobody's even there to watch it when you power it back on. Is it stupid?
Probably, especially since the on-foot UI shows nothing about what's going on in the ship until the fine warning pops up and it sometimes just instantly goes to "bounty" without you even getting half a chance to dismiss the ship prior. If it was without that... I'd only say "Maybe".
But I've never landed at those pads after seeing they don't offer docking because it's treated as a "completely offline" state, as opposed to a 'semi-offline' state as you'd see in Bust, Civil Unrest, etc. Hasn't stopped the game from being an idiot and slapping me with a "pad blocking" fine/bounty while my ship was, on one hand, outside the supposed trespass zone, but also a few hundred meters from the nearest pad. Likewise I had my SRV by a building door, not "on the landing pad". Even if that is more just Odyssey jank than any player fault... it's been ingrained into my memory enough that "You don't land or dock at a pad without permission", that I don't anyway. Sometimes it is also preferable because scavs are complete idiots and will shoot a ship or SRV with nobody in it, and start running toward it instead of looking for the owner.
... their weapons are also stupidly effective against shields(for some reason), but hardly seem to even scratch the paint on the actual ship hull. Source, me being lazy and not changing my shieldless AX ship to do a few reactivations, some donkey head scavs decided to shoot it for a few seconds and... didn't even do enough to make the hull counter go from 100 to 99.
Now that I didn’t know as I haven’t been shot at in a shieldless ship and flown away worriedly after seeing my shield taking much damage.
Yeap, you cannot request docking permission since the settlement is offline - but think of it... if i'm not home to welcome you in, is it implied that you can enter my house without my express permission?
Indeed you go in to repair the place, but that;s all you are there for - the implication that you can use the landing pad without express permission is a bit far fetched.
Remember, it's an universe you get blown to bits and pieces for loitering. Or for not freezing into place, if you are asked to by Settlement Guards.
Always thought it was weird that in this hyper-sec environment they don't issue a pass of some kind that says I'm allowed to walk around. Enter the wrong building and we'll throw you out, refuse to cooperate and we'll revoke it. Anyone else seen sneaking around without one just gets shot at immediately. Same pass should also give trespass bypass.
Always thought it was weird that in this hyper-sec environment they don't issue a pass of some kind that says I'm allowed to walk around. Enter the wrong building and we'll throw you out, refuse to cooperate and we'll revoke it. Anyone else seen sneaking around without one just gets shot at immediately. Same pass should also give trespass bypass.
Well, you get a security authorization to enter - by foot - in the settlement buildings (if the mission is issued by the settlement owners)
The Pads/Landing systems seem to work as a separate layer. When you get docking permission, that's all you get - you dont get authorization to enter secured building.
And you have to get landing permission - it's a process that make sure that pad is reserved for your ship and your ship only and which flags any other ships as trespasser.