Maybe they're just sticking by the letter of their T&C's and any sales laws of the relevant country/s as opposed to 'needing to hang onto an insignificant amount of money?
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Maybe they're just sticking by the letter of their T&C's and any sales laws of the relevant country/s as opposed to 'needing to hang onto an insignificant amount of money?
This is quite off topic and we can continue in PM if you are interested in my career. However in short - you never quit coding even when you became senior architect, proof of concept snippets, test cases, etc... On the other hand if you divert to managing positions you could eventually stop coding and start managing people and other resources. Regarding other languages I'm familiar with few other programming languages.
I just chalk it up to bad planning management. But certainly not worth going all out and doing the hurt "I'm gonna take my ball home and play with other kids"... The product being released is awesome, it is sadly it's not going to have offline, would have been helpful, but as a game it's great. Loss happened, badly presented... we got that... They feel bad, we feel bad... NEXT...
Seriously, I am 50+ and I still say you look like a child running off the playground... you can do better. Be better than others, show forgiveness and understand for a hard choice and teething issues for a new system and move on.
I wish to see peace among those in the community, altruistic perhaps, but you asked.
There are those who fan the flames yet you choose to focus on me, the one who wishes for peace, ironic.
Shame.
Shame on those <insert expletives plus livid description of mental shortcomings here> who sent/send those threats.
Shame.
Now it will be that all 0.00001% of insignificant numbers of offline backers are not only pirates but murderers and criminals
P.S. Just to be clear, i do not approve threats on anyone over this.
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I suspect Cathy that they're afriad that many who really aren't interested in the offline game will nonetheless pretend to be in order to get a refund and then buy the game for a much cheaper price. If so you can see their point.
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If that is so, the bad will and knock to their reputation (personal as well as corporate) is not worth it.
I'm going to post this again, and as a reply to this, because there's been no reply to it.
Not in my case they haven't. My initial request for a refund was for the Elite: Dangerous - Lifetime Expansion Pass, A pre-order bought and paid for from your shop.
My first attempt was dismissed using the fact I was a Kickstarter Backer as an excuse... saying kickstarter pledges are not refundable (something I'm already aware off). That's not what I was asking for.
I opened a second ticket pointing out the mistake and AGAIN asked for a refund for the Elite: Dangerous - Lifetime Expansion Pass, A pre-order bought and paid for from your shop. Apparently the matter is now under investigation.
Since all undelivered pre-orders are entitled to a refund, I'm not sure what there is to investigate. So, to go back to the above quoted post, no, not all eligible under your current rules (i'm one of them) have been refunded.
People have gone THIS low? I thought this community was good. I don't want to think what will happen when CIG has to axe something...
No. The payment was for entry into the beta program entitling the tester the final game for free as way of a "thank you"
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It doesn't include the cost of the full game. The payment was for entry into beta and early access to the code. The final game is provided effectively free as a way of thanks for participating in the beta.
They'd lose their perks (reserved names, insurance discounts, Collector's Box Sets, starter ships, decals, etc, etc) so I don't think there would be many that actually liked and wanted to play the game that did that. However, I'd concede that there would probably be a few. So a few gits get a few pounds - meh, I'd say it wasn't a big concern, but that's merely speculation.
I myself requested a partial refund, but just to make a point and show solidarity with those truly affected... if they actually offered that partial refund (zero chance, I do not fit the criteria) I'd just refuse it anyway!
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You're altruistic. That's nice. I never met an altruistic person before, but then given the social circles I mix in perhaps that's not so surprising.
And I didn't "focus" on you. I responded to your post, as you might expect people to do.
Sorry to hear you’ve had personal threats over this Michael, however upset I am over the decision and however it has coloured my view of Frontier and my wish to spend money with you guys in the future I do not feel that threats are justified in any way shape or form it is at the end of the day just a game.
I'm starting to get seriously tired of this "hard choice" line. Its only a hard choice because they designed it that way.
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Now it will be that all 0.00001% of insignificant numbers of offline backers are not only pirates but murderers and criminals
P.S. Just to be clear, i do not approve threats on anyone over this.
Indeed - it's a tiny minority and not worth anyone stressing over.
Michael
But anyone who did that would lose out on other rewards that cost money, e.g. the life-time free expansions. Also the in-game goodies like default access to Sol. You may be right in that's what they're thinking, but add that to the loss of reputation and good will... I'm still struggling to reconcile it.
That is very much not true. We have plenty of posts by accounts that are a day old or less, whether they are legitimate or not, declaring how unsatisfied they are. And of course the whole debate about refunds, DRM, the future of ED if FD were to shut down, etc.
Just chalking this up to the "online crowd" is too easy. Or did you mean the "offline crowd"? Either way, my point stands
Hmm, I've just apologized to a moderator for possibly taking up their time needlessly so I will only say this:
I think that people would be happier, and maybe derive more enjoyment out of projects, well, ENDEAVOURS, like Elite: Dangerous ,if they just assumed that the people developing them were competent. I'm sure that you have a lot of experience, many people in these forums do.
I do think that not many have the kind of experience with developing games that the ED leadership has. So I would personally feel a little awkward describing my work experience and then using that grounding to judge someone like DB.
Hazarding a guess but your account was flagged as kickstarter and they missed the detail whilst rushing to get through them? A possibility at least
I disagree. Pre - order price 50 dollars - Beta access 25 dollars if bought seprate both from the store. Total price 75 dollars. This statement is just playing with numbers. Total price of beta with pre-order or not is 75 dollars. You are still paying for the Retail game in both cases regardless.
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