DLC18 discussion and predictions

Looking through the old Trailers, I've noticed in the Launch trailer for Oceania, the Tasmanian Devil does seem to have it's own sounds. It's a bit weird to not have them in game.

I've also come to appreciate how many variants there are of the single song.
 
Looking through the old Trailers, I've noticed in the Launch trailer for Oceania, the Tasmanian Devil does seem to have it's own sounds. It's a bit weird to not have them in game.
I dunno, the Tasmanian devil in the trailer still doesn’t make actual devil noises, they’re the same sounds they make in the game for the most part.

I’ve spent so much time with PZ devils (which I love to death regardless) that I’ve completely adjusted to the sounds they make, and I appreciate that the devs at least put the time in to make fully custom noises for them if they didn’t have access to the real deal. But gaaah, it still hurts my soul a little every time I think about what could have been, they’ll forever be missing something without their proper sounds.
 
"new" dream pack - which won't happen but if anything were possible:

Treetops Pack 12 animals including 6 exhibit birds with a new exhibit type, one half of a walk through, being non walk through. Normal pricing because it's 6 regular habitat animals and the exhibit birds.

Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
Aye-Aye
Ocelot
South American Coatimundi
Black Howler Monkey
Spider Monkey species
Bald Eagle (Non-Walk Through exhibit)
Scarlet Macaw (NWTE)
Toco Toucan (NWTE)
African Grey Parrot (NWTE)
Sulpher Crested Cockatoo (NWTE)
Rhinoceros Hornbill (NWTE)

Anniversary:
Spectacled Bear
King Cobra
Urban/city building set
 
This also makes me think...

2 are from África
2 are from Oceanía

So... Maybe...

2 for Europe
2 for Asia
2 for South América
2 for Central / North América?

That makes 12.
So with what we got:

Africa: Hamadryas + Secretary from the dictionary
Oceania: Tree roo + Echinda from the dictionary

All 4 of these are unique and pretty cool, i doubt anybody would have a problem with their inclusion

Europe: Duck + Pelican gives us the quintessential birds for the very generous price of no carnivoran and ungulate from europe, nice

Asia: Blackbuck + Muntjak cause if theres any continent actually happy to get some ungulate love it would be asia

South America: Mara + Rhea are just a needed combo

North America: Coati + Spider Monkey would give us 2 os the most wanted animals for south america in north america and im sure everyone is happy with that

And even then i could still go on about more animals, this game really could make use of 20 more animals ngl
 
Honestly I don’t know about you guys, but I would be down for a Conservation pack sequel. There is a lot of species that zoos help save, and I think one conservation pack isn’t enough. Here are some species off the top of my head and from the AZA SAFE program:
  1. Golden lion tamarin
  2. Peere David’s deer
  3. Red wolf
  4. Black footed ferret
  5. Guam Rail
  6. Anoa
  7. Nene
  8. Prairie Chicken
  9. Andean flamingo
  10. Andean bear
  11. Cuban crocodile
  12. Coral
  13. Colobus monkey
  14. California condor + Vultures (hot take, but from what I’ve seen in zoos, I think they can work in game)
  15. Freshwater mussels
  16. Pupfish
  17. Key beach mouse
  18. Radiated tortoise
  19. Sea turtles
  20. Whooping crane
  21. Wyoming toad
  22. Blandings turtle
Obviously not a full list, I’m sure I missed animals. Either way I find it cool, and think having another endangered animal pack would be worth it!
 
California condor + Vultures (hot take, but from what I’ve seen in zoos, I think they can work in game)
I would agree, ive seen an open topped vulture enclosure recently, well it was an enclosure for cameroon sheep, guineafowl and marabou and there happend to be one vulture in there aswell, so idk if what its deal was. Although i think to remember the whole wing clipping is being phased out?
Which might be a hot take but idk if thats necessarily always the best for the birds (depending on species ofc). I saw a video of a new pelican aviary where someone pointed out that he wasnt sure if the birds do have a better quality of life in a usually smaller aviary and being able to fly than being kept on those huge mixed savannah enclosures but being grounded. And honestly i think you can make an argument for the second option being the better one.

And while i think the no flight route works fine for all the normally flighted pirds we have in game aswell as stuff like ducks, pelicans and so on, going that route for vultures isnt something i think frontier could get away with. Similar to like macaws and stuff, flying is way to engrained into the perception of vultures by people to not include it.
And especially for more casual players a terrestrial vulture would probably be pretty perplexing
 
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Do you think we'll have to wait for the anniversary for the pack?
Given that Planet Coaster 2 releases on Wednesday, November 6th I'd assume we'll be getting the pack before the anniversary. I don't really see them doing two releases in the same week, especially given how much they're hinging on PlanCo2.

So I think a release just before the anniversary is more likely. Maybe one of the last two weeks in October?
 
I dunno, the Tasmanian devil in the trailer still doesn’t make actual devil noises, they’re the same sounds they make in the game for the most part.

I’ve spent so much time with PZ devils (which I love to death regardless) that I’ve completely adjusted to the sounds they make, and I appreciate that the devs at least put the time in to make fully custom noises for them if they didn’t have access to the real deal. But gaaah, it still hurts my soul a little every time I think about what could have been, they’ll forever be missing something without their proper sounds.
I hope the modders can break the code in that regard and can start adding new sounds to the game 🙏
 
Do you think we'll have to wait for the anniversary for the pack?
I would highly doubt it, if I had to guess a good portion of players play both games. Releasing the dlc May take some people away from PC2. Likewise, I’m sure that would be an issue with YouTubers who help spread the hype and news. Imagine trying to market for the dlc of one game, and only giving everyone a handful of hours to talk about it.

It just makes less sense than to release the dlc in October at some time.
 
Do you think we'll have to wait for the anniversary for the pack?
Assuming that LQA update from last week is correct (it didn't update in the Depot section, despite listing Depot 703081 as usual. It also lists an extra Depot that relates to the Deluxe upgrade extras, unlike previous ones) then it has to be sooner, with the max of 5 weeks putting it in mid October.

I'm decently confident on getting an announcement trailer before the next stream, but we'll see what happens.
 
Do you think we'll have to wait for the anniversary for the pack?
That was my guess until they left the anniversary date suspiciously free and releasing PC 2 the day after the PZ anniversary. So i'm sure we will get something for the anniversary but would be a weird marketing move to release a DLC for their most popular game right now one day and a whole new game the next day that will surely take all the atention. So my guess now is either in october and then an anniversary celebration OR first some small anniversary gift and then the pack for Christmas.
 
I'm still leaning toward Frontier "celebrating" the Planet Zoo anniversary a full week early, potentially even making it a bigger part of the stream than usual, so as not to conflict with Planet Coaster 2 at all. Releasing the DLC/update on Tuesday, 10/29 and then talking about it on the livestream feels pretty appropriate to me, TBH.

And I still think seeing some synergy between Planet Zoo and PlanCo2 with the anniversary update would be really cool. Maybe adding one of the new shops to Planet Zoo along with a carousel or something... And giving fans access to a 20% discount code for PlanCo2 and/or related future DLC by logging in after DLC purchase or something. I'm not expecting it, but it would be pretty effective I think.
 
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