I knoww many people will hate this statement but zoos rely on ungulates, birds and carnivores.
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DLC18 discussion and predictions
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It would probably be more like
"This is the 16th bird we got, at this point just please give us more than 7 antelopes frontier, I would even take another gazelle, at this point, even though we already got 3 of them just give us another antelope I am tired of Macaws and waterfowl!!!"
There is a Dairy cow (specifically might be Holstein, Friesan, Fleckvieh or Montbeliarde) in Microsoft Flight Simulator that's been talked about on the subreddit for a bit, among a whole bunch of animals reported to be from PZ (some apparently seem to be from Zoo Tycoon XBOX) https://www.shacknews.com/article/141438/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-planet-zoo-animals
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Yo can we get that warthog as a remaster please?There is a Dairy cow in Microsoft Flight Simulator that's been talked about on the subreddit for a bit, among a whole bunch of animals reported to be from PZ (some apparently seem to be from Zoo Tycoon XBOX) https://www.shacknews.com/article/141438/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-planet-zoo-animals
I'm gonna be honest, I don't really care about getting birds. First, I just like mammals more, but second we need so many species to make a realistic zoo. I really hope in a sequel that has flighted birds there are at least 20 birds in the base game. Like sure it would be nice to get a duck, but when have you seen a zoo keep a single species of duck? Idk, it's hard for me to want birds at this point, especially ones that can't exist in standalone exhibits.
Every zoo i have been to houses multiple species of goose, swan, and duck. I've seen everything from Mandarin Ducks (barely actually saw them tho sadly) to like domestic petting zoo ducks. plus multiple kinds of swans and egyptian geese
I like this idea one animal to match each pack
arctic: musk ox
south america: greater rhea
australia: short beaked echidna
south east asia:
aquatic: brown pelican
africa: african spurred tortoise
north america: central american spider monkey
europe: eurasian pine marten
wetlands: rosette spoonbill
conservation: peres david deer
twilight: kirks dik-dik
grasslands: secretary bird
tropical: coquerels sifaka
arid: hamadryas baboon
oceania: goodfellow tree kangaroo
eurasia: markhor
barnyard: european rabbit
while we are at it
deluxe: spectacled bear
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none of these look anything close to what is in planet zoo and less then half are in zoo tycoon.There is a Dairy cow (specifically might be Fleckvieh or Montbeliarde) in Microsoft Flight Simulator that's been talked about on the subreddit for a bit, among a whole bunch of animals reported to be from PZ (some apparently seem to be from Zoo Tycoon XBOX) https://www.shacknews.com/article/141438/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-planet-zoo-animals
A reminder that their engine probably renders things differently, plus they may have done some touch ups to certain animals too. Stuff like the capybara, moose and dall sheep look directly ripped from PZ.
I know most people are just joking but are some people really taking critique or jokes about ungulates/other very well represented groups as disliking them? Obviously I can only speak for my own thoughts on the matter here, but you can critique something and still enjoy it. It's not that ungulates - or carnivorans, for that matter - aren't incredibly important to zoos - far from it, where has anyone ever even said that? - it's that they're already very well represented and groups that are equally important to zoos with rosters that have barely scratched the surface are repeatedly shafted for their extra padding.
I just feel like people keep using "but ungulates are super common" as an excuse for getting them lately - and its not like they aren't, but lets not pretend like they're the only insanely common group in zoos - or that they weren't already very well represented - because as it stands they've been favored to an unrealistic degree over groups that are also super common. I feel like a broken record but I'll say it again: the roster is limited and priorities should be taken. I'd rather get a small handful of neat antelope and a diverse bird roster than a boatload of antelope and next to no birds.
I just feel like people keep using "but ungulates are super common" as an excuse for getting them lately - and its not like they aren't, but lets not pretend like they're the only insanely common group in zoos - or that they weren't already very well represented - because as it stands they've been favored to an unrealistic degree over groups that are also super common. I feel like a broken record but I'll say it again: the roster is limited and priorities should be taken. I'd rather get a small handful of neat antelope and a diverse bird roster than a boatload of antelope and next to no birds.
Cool occasion to come out my old template about this idea, if you want to play around :
yeah people do take it seriously especially those in the realism above all else crowd. The problem is if all your favourite animals are ungulates and all you see is people praying for the next animals to be anything else it can hurt.
Going full selfish here:
Arctic: Common eider
South America: White-nosed coati
Australia: Cape Barren goose
Aquatic: Brown pelican
Southeast Asia: Francois' langur
Africa: Grey crowned crane
North America: North American river otter
Europe: White stork
Wetlands: Southern screamer
Conservation: Golden lion tamarin
Twilight: American black bear
Grasslands: Patagonian mara
Tropical: Mantled guereza
Arid: Sulcata tortoise
Oceania: Black swan
Eurasia: Mandarin duck
Barnyard: Helmeted guineafowl
Yeah, before knowing there was an article on it, I wasn't really convinced. I'm guessing some more work was done to them, potentially by the Flight Simulator team (I'm guessing they started by upgrading some Zoo Tycoon models that Microsoft had the rights to).
Any justification does fall flat a bit. The bird, monkey & South America situation does seem a bit like artificial scarcity.
Using the Wayback machine, from the December 2021 meta-wishlist, with 54 animals we got 30 of the top 50, 40 of the top 100, and every species of the top 10 by the end of 2023. https://web.archive.org/web/2021121...sential-habitat-animals-meta-wishlist.582340/
Here's the ranking of animals we got, and might get, from this December 2021 Metawishlist:
- Wetlands: Capybara 1st, Platypus 9th, Asian Small Claw Otter 16th, Red-Crowned Crane 69th, Nile Lechwe 343rd, Wild Water Buffalo 343rd, Spectacled Caiman Not listed (Black Caiman 172nd)
- Conservation: Leopard 2nd (Amur on it's own would be 13th), Przwalski's Horse 3rd, Scimitar-horned oryx 37th, Siamang 43rd
- Twilight: Common Wombat 11th, Red Fox 22nd, Raccoon 38th, Striped Skunk 89th
- 2022versary: Red Deer 20th
- Grasslands: Maned Wolf 5th, Emu 8th, Caracal 27th, Red-necked Wallaby 38th, Nine-banded Armadillo 46th, Striped Hyena 68th, Blue Wildebeest 132nd
- Tropical: Lar Gibbon 7th, Red River Hog 11th, Fossa 13th, Brown-throated Sloth 16th, Asian Water Monitor 343rd
- Arid: African Crested Porcupine 6th, Dromedary 25th, Black Rhino 47th, Addax 49th, Somali Wild Donkey 76th, Dama Gazelle 149th, Sand Cat 149th
- Oceania: Tasmanian Devil 4th, North Island Brown Kiwi 34th, Little Penguin 89th, Quokka 109th
- 2023versary: Collared Peccary 60th
- Eurasia: Wolverine 10th, Takin 27th, Saiga 43rd, Wild Boar 50th, Mute Swan 60th, Sloth Bear 62nd, Wisent 89th
- Barnyard: Alpaca 203rd, Highland Cattle 223rd, Alpine Goat Not listed (Nigerian Dwarf Goat 124th), American Standard Donkey Not listed (Miniature donkey 179th), Hill Radnor Sheep Not listed (Merino 272nd), Sussex Chicken Not listed (No other breeds listed), Tamworth Pig Not Listed (Vietnamese Pot-bellied Pig 203rd)
- Evident Dictionary candidates: Secretary Bird 13th, Hamadryas Baboon 15th, Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo 19th, Markhor 34th, Coquerel's Sifaka 47th (Crowned Sifaka 343rd), Short-beaked Echidna 52nd (Western Long-beaked Echidna 343rd), Kirk's Dik-dik 73rd (no other Dik-diks listed), African Civet 109th (Owston's Palm Civet 272nd, Asian Palm Civet 343rd), Impala 109th, African Spurred Tortoise 141st
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I shared it here on the day it was teased and no one paid attention lol. If it's true then the plans of the desired Latin America and dictionary animals may not be the whole truth.There is a Dairy cow (specifically might be Fleckvieh or Montbeliarde) in Microsoft Flight Simulator that's been talked about on the subreddit for a bit, among a whole bunch of animals reported to be from PZ (some apparently seem to be from Zoo Tycoon XBOX) https://www.shacknews.com/article/141438/microsoft-flight-simulator-2024-planet-zoo-animals
That's... odd. How is it lower than the impala?
How does this affect incoming DLC?
We get another domestic cattle breed? Idk.
I don't know really, maybe a domestic in the next dlc? Not surprising at all though considering plenty of people were still asking for a dairy cow after barnyard was announced.
Damn, if they did that with limited slots (8-12) that would be pretty harsh. Only in situation of megapack that revisits all former packs, like discussed, could I let that slide