Well wetlands and living exclusivly in the swamps of the nile and its sidearms do overlap heavily, so the lechwe defenetly fit the wetlands theme
DLC18 discussion and predictions
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so based on a cryptic conversation with my friend who does not interact with animals much but is however from asia here is the other 5 animals for the pack if it is a general asia theme
1. asiatic lion
2. chinese alliagtor
3. monkey (golden snub nosed monkey)
4. domestic water buffalo
5. generic turtle (chinese pond turtle)
1. asiatic lion
2. chinese alliagtor
3. monkey (golden snub nosed monkey)
4. domestic water buffalo
5. generic turtle (chinese pond turtle)
I definitely agree, I just think it's odd to say that the swamp dwelling anoa isn't semi-aquatic enough when flood grasslands are just as wet or arguably even less wet (depending on the individual habitat obviously).
Like isn't Sulawesi know for being swampy, at least at lower elevations?
While they do live in swamps it’s not their primary habitat, they mainly live in forests and are not as tied to water as water buffalo (and lechwe for that matter) are.
Well all I'm hearing is they live in swamps, which means they live in wetlands, which means they fit the theme. Keep those wild and domestic water buffaloes away from me (unless your making mozzarella cheese).
I mean, I bet you'd find more crested porcupines and black rhinos in grasslands than deserts.
Are you trying to get a rise out of me, because it's working
Personally I think that it would be
Black Buck
Reeves Muntjac
Yellow-Thorted Martin
Mandarin Duck
(Exhibit Animal) King Cobra
Prayer flags are a rectangle, so prayers can be written on them, not generally a triangle. The chain connecting the lantern is pretty different, and both go off screen, so being connected to the flagging isn't required.
I don't have a good answer for why they're there, but Himalayan doesn't seem the connecting feature. Alpine maybe, but it seems more generic. Both can be elements of festivals, but it's still more generic really.
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I doubt it. Even Frontier must realise the two are not even remotely comparable. Domestic water buffalo have several factors differentiating them from llamas - they aren't barnyard animals for one thing, and are specialised domestics. They also still have an exotic factor, whereas llamas are literally everywhere now (and no, their origin being in South America does not automatically give them the "exotic factor"). Llamas are practically pets and in a vaccuum they stand out. With the Barnyard DLC now out, the llamas actually have a place in the game (alongside the alpacas).
Water buffalo, though, you wouldn't stick in a barnyard. That would look stupid.
The key difference for me is that animals like water buffalo and lechwe are specialised to live in watery environments, while the anoa enjoys swamps but also live extensively in other habitats. That’s the key difference to why I consider the water buffalo and lechwe to be wetland animals but the anoa to not be.
To give another example, African buffalo also love swamps, but if we didn’t have African buffalo in the game already I also wouldn’t consider them a better pick for the wetlands pack over water buffalo.
For me, PD deer is better than water buffalo for the Wetlands DLC.
I agree that the water buffalo fits the theme better than the anoa and African buffalo hands down. My thought is the anoa could also fit in as well as an alternative pick. Yeah, they're not endemic to wetlands, but I just think they are much more unique and the fact they're actually kept in zoos gives them another point for me.
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I think anoas more, but PD deers would have been awesome! In ways I feel like we were robbed with hoofstock in wetlands. I love the lechwe, but the waterbuck and PD deer are a lot more popular amongst the community.
Good points but regarding the last one its actually not that uncommon here in germany, both in domestic type areas and barnyards.
Water buffalos in barnyards on the rise as thanks to the rewielding law of europe around 80% of waterways have to be rewielded, often flooding parts of fields and cow pastures so there are some rather successfull pilot projects keeping them in these areas, especally as they are seen as a benefit to rewielding efforts as natural bulldozers that organicly widen riverbeds on the side of waterways by bathing or playing in mud.
Afaik of 5 relativly near me that only 1 had any issues and that was due a buffalo wandering of at a defect part of a fence, but otherwise it seems like its gonna be a rising trend
That’s fair, I agree that anoas could fit into a wetlands pack (they’d fit better in tropical though, I mean that pack even comes with Tongkonan architecture from Sulawesi), my original point was just that the water buffalo was a better fit for wetlands (which we also agree on).
And yeah the choice of wild water buffalo in particular was lame of course, swamp-type domestic water buffalo (usually just called “swamp buffaloes”) look very similar to wild water buffalo aside from having smaller horns and would have been a much better option (the riverine water buffalo, which was domesticated independently, looks quite different).
Que pensez-vous du pack d'animaux des hautes terres
- Chat de Pallas
- Babouin Hamadrya
- Markor
- Vautour fauve
- Monal de l'Himalaya
- Yak
- Wapiti
- Hyrax des rochers
That's part of the issue concerning these widespread packs. Like take grasslands; most people would probably never consider the armadillo as a contender due to their association as desert animals. And I mean, I don't blame them, I'm used to seeing them in temperate woodlands, so grasslands isn't too far fetched at 1st glance, but there's always another choice that could make or break the pack.
I'm not saying it's bad, and I personally love the fact that the relative vague theme can squeeze in different animals you wouldn't think of normally, but there's always that "this animals could've been better, but what we have is already good"
I highly doubt the pack is Asia centered, Baboons are too iconic of an African species to include it in an Asian pack despite the decorations. Their range in Asia is also very small as well
We did get the sloth bear in a cold centered Eurasia pack and it totally felt outta place. Not saying you're wrong, but not saying you're right. It can really go either way. I'm expecting generic scenery that's influenced by Asian cultures but could also be used in different settings l
Yeah thats always the dilemma with these packs. With a really wide or vague theme there are tons of animals you can potentially include, but you also raise the number of animals you have to leave out.
Good example here is grasslands, the pack was pretty full of highly requested animals but you could have easily done another 2 grasslands animal packs without going into random animals that noone asked for.
Tropical is probably an even better example due to being a scenery set, and probably also even more vague therefore tons of animals that had to be left out