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DLC18 discussion and predictions
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So is SalamAnders.
Nooo see I forgot someone
Hate to break it to you but someone will have to be sleeping for it but it won’t be the brits.
EST time is the best Zone for Frontier IMO, you could wake up and see the trailer right at 9am. But I have to wake up at 6am so kachow watching the trailer in school
What’s @Iben’s channel?
My hopes/predictions for the remaining 5 (?) animals;
Other options would be
- Alpine marmot. Would be cool to get another rodent. Actually, we desperately need a non-hoofstock, non-carnivore mammal from Europe.
- Andean bear. Yes, we already have lots of bears (Asia got 6 bears!) but South America needs love too.
- Prediction: Yak (wild or domesticated). Hope: Chilean pudu. A small hoofstock is much needed. Would also settle for tufted deer or musk deer.
- Himalayan monal, golden pheasant, Temmincks tragopan or another pheasant. Hopefully as a habitat species, but would be ok with WE
- Mangshan pit viper
Other options would be
- Golden snub-nosed monkey. Two monkeys in one pack? Unlikely I think, but possible.
- Barbary macaque. See above.
- Gelada. See above.
- Barbary sheep, bharal, rocky mountain goat, chamois, tahr, bighorn; 2 caprids in 1 pack is possible. Might not be what people want though.
- Yellow-footed rock wallaby. More a species of rocky terrain than actual mountains, but close enough to be a possibility.
- Coati. Could be considered a highland species... I'd love a coati but I'm not hopeful.
- Kiang; unlikely since we already have Przewalskis wild horse and Somali wild ass.
- Guanaco/vicuna. Possible, but would be the fifth camelid.
- Goodfellows tree kangaroo; tropical mountains are mountains too. Much requested, somewhat leaked, but I still don't dare to hope for this one.
- A second species of crane (black-necked, demoiselle); also unlikely in my opionion.
- Ethiopian wolf. Frontier includes some animals that are rare in captivity, but none that are non-existant. So very unlikely.
- Bar-headed goose or blue-winged goose. A second species of waterfowl. We'd all love that, but I don't see it happening.
Why would they put a pheasant in the WE when you already have the peafowl and chicken as habitat animals? There is quite literally no reason for it
I agree, ground birds are too active for a walkthrough exhibit. Heck, the space has capacity for only 4 chickens.
Actually this is a mountain pack and we are getting an Andean Condor
(it would be super funny if this is the last pack and a mountain pack. With the mountain pack being the one that gives us “flying birds” so Planet Zoo ends with like, the Andean condor, Kea, Golden Eagle, etc. )
Its not even the activitly level. The WE animals we have have very specific reason why they are in there, for the bflies and bats its their flight and for the sloth its the speed and barely being able to move on the ground at all. And thats just not case with pheasant
why do people keep recommending animals for the WE, first the Tortoise and now any Pheasant???
I think it's because we've been waiting for any news for so long and people are just coming up with any ideas (never ending wish lists or new concepts etc) just to fill in the waiting time.
Hoping to hear some news tomorrow
Since the WE was announced people made this habit of trying to throw anything with less than 1.5 meter on it, regardless if that makes sense or not. It didn't even started with tortoises, there's has been people suggesting kiwis, tree roos, rabbits, pheasant, ibis, marmosets, galagos, pottos and many others being suggest for a long time by now just because of their sizes.
Just a little thing I tried and thought I'd share. I asked ChatGPT what it thinks the H. baboon, markhor and pallas cat have in common. This was its response:
From a zoological perspective, the Hamadryas baboon, markhor, and Pallas's cat share a few key characteristics:
1. Mammalian Classification: All three belong to the class Mammalia, meaning they are warm-blooded vertebrates that have fur or hair and typically give live birth.
2. Adaptations to Their Environments: Each of these animals has specific adaptations that help them survive in their respective habitats. The Hamadryas baboon is adapted to a range of habitats in Africa, including savannas and rocky terrains; the markhor is well-suited for mountainous regions in Central Asia with its impressive climbing abilities; and the Pallas's cat is adapted to the cold, arid grasslands and steppes of Central Asia.
3. Social Structures and Behaviors: While their social structures differ, they all exhibit unique social behaviors. Hamadryas baboons are highly social and live in complex troop structures; markhor can be social during mating seasons but are often solitary; Pallas's cats tend to be more solitary, especially outside of breeding season.
4. Dietary Habits: They are all part of the food web in their ecosystems, with the Hamadryas baboon being omnivorous, the markhor primarily a herbivore (eating grasses and shrubs), and the Pallas's cat being a carnivore, preying on small mammals and birds.
These traits highlight their adaptations to their environments while emphasizing their shared classification within the animal kingdom.
I then explained that they will be in a DLC for PZ and a little bit about that, and asked what it thinks the theme of the pack will be:
Given that the Pallas's cat, Hamadryas baboon, and markhor are all animals associated with mountainous or rugged environments, it’s likely that the theme of the DLC pack could focus on highland habitats or ecosystems.
Possible themes could include:
1. Mountainous Ecosystems: Highlighting the unique environments these animals inhabit, such as rocky terrains, grasslands, and elevated regions.
2. Biodiversity Conservation: Focusing on the importance of preserving highland habitats and the species that live there, potentially including conservation challenges.
3. Cultural Elements: Incorporating elements from the cultures associated with the regions where these animals are found, such as the Himalayan and Central Asian influences.
4. Habitat Enrichment: Offering new building items and enrichment options that reflect the needs of these specific animals, emphasizing their natural behaviors.
Overall, it sounds like an exciting pack that could add unique challenges and experiences to the game!
I was hoping it might come up with something that we hadn't thought of, but I think the only thing that stands out as actually being in common with these species is that they all inhabit rocky terrain.
I asked if I thought it would be a Highlands themed pack, and it said:
Not exactly. While the markhor and Pallas's cat are indeed associated with highland or mountainous regions, the Hamadryas baboon typically inhabits lower elevation areas such as savannas, cliffs, and rocky terrains. So, while two of the three are considered highland animals, the baboon is more versatile in its habitat preferences and is not primarily a highland species.
This doesn't really get us any closer than we've already gotten ourselves, but I thought it was interesting. The word 'rocky' comes up a few times and is the most solid link. Could this be a Rockies Pack? That would give us a slightly different roster than highlands I think and possibly more geodiversity.
From a zoological perspective, the Hamadryas baboon, markhor, and Pallas's cat share a few key characteristics:
1. Mammalian Classification: All three belong to the class Mammalia, meaning they are warm-blooded vertebrates that have fur or hair and typically give live birth.
2. Adaptations to Their Environments: Each of these animals has specific adaptations that help them survive in their respective habitats. The Hamadryas baboon is adapted to a range of habitats in Africa, including savannas and rocky terrains; the markhor is well-suited for mountainous regions in Central Asia with its impressive climbing abilities; and the Pallas's cat is adapted to the cold, arid grasslands and steppes of Central Asia.
3. Social Structures and Behaviors: While their social structures differ, they all exhibit unique social behaviors. Hamadryas baboons are highly social and live in complex troop structures; markhor can be social during mating seasons but are often solitary; Pallas's cats tend to be more solitary, especially outside of breeding season.
4. Dietary Habits: They are all part of the food web in their ecosystems, with the Hamadryas baboon being omnivorous, the markhor primarily a herbivore (eating grasses and shrubs), and the Pallas's cat being a carnivore, preying on small mammals and birds.
These traits highlight their adaptations to their environments while emphasizing their shared classification within the animal kingdom.
I then explained that they will be in a DLC for PZ and a little bit about that, and asked what it thinks the theme of the pack will be:
Given that the Pallas's cat, Hamadryas baboon, and markhor are all animals associated with mountainous or rugged environments, it’s likely that the theme of the DLC pack could focus on highland habitats or ecosystems.
Possible themes could include:
1. Mountainous Ecosystems: Highlighting the unique environments these animals inhabit, such as rocky terrains, grasslands, and elevated regions.
2. Biodiversity Conservation: Focusing on the importance of preserving highland habitats and the species that live there, potentially including conservation challenges.
3. Cultural Elements: Incorporating elements from the cultures associated with the regions where these animals are found, such as the Himalayan and Central Asian influences.
4. Habitat Enrichment: Offering new building items and enrichment options that reflect the needs of these specific animals, emphasizing their natural behaviors.
Overall, it sounds like an exciting pack that could add unique challenges and experiences to the game!
I was hoping it might come up with something that we hadn't thought of, but I think the only thing that stands out as actually being in common with these species is that they all inhabit rocky terrain.
I asked if I thought it would be a Highlands themed pack, and it said:
Not exactly. While the markhor and Pallas's cat are indeed associated with highland or mountainous regions, the Hamadryas baboon typically inhabits lower elevation areas such as savannas, cliffs, and rocky terrains. So, while two of the three are considered highland animals, the baboon is more versatile in its habitat preferences and is not primarily a highland species.
This doesn't really get us any closer than we've already gotten ourselves, but I thought it was interesting. The word 'rocky' comes up a few times and is the most solid link. Could this be a Rockies Pack? That would give us a slightly different roster than highlands I think and possibly more geodiversity.
They have to do the trailer tomorrow!
I’m hoping they tease something today and announce tomorrow
Apadtion to environment and being part of their ecosystems food web are surely some things they have in common, those three in additions to every single animal on earth
The ai might be onto something with the Cultural elements tho, like baboons were important in ancient egypt and the lantern and flags on the pack art. Markhor are the national animal of pakistan, so there is that. No clue how the pallas cat fits into that since i couldnt find anything about them having any cultural significance, in which case it would be a very strange animal to chose for the pack
Relax, bro. If you don't have hope, you won't be disappointed.