I really regret not doing PP 1.0

That's because you decided to "consume" your time doing "boring" and "repetitive" things.

I didn't.

Well that’s the only way to do it if you’re going to argue that you can make 20K merits a week. But no, players won’t decide to consume their time with the grind, they just won’t bother with PP2 at all so what was then the point of it all?
 
Tell me what other rewards are there in PP? Module shoppers? Say the person who has all his modules. I don't even have 1 yet. I'm seeking reward for the gameplay I put it. Hence, the MERIT SYSTEM that has no merit.
It is unfortunate that modules were and have been locked behind powers.

I dedicated most of my game time for the ethos of the power.

I don't have guardian stuff on my ships, neither cared about Xeno, just picked up the things I like.

If you don't like PP 2.0, don't play it.
 
Tell me what other rewards are there in PP? Module shoppers? Say the person who has all his modules. I don't even have 1 yet. I'm seeking reward for the gameplay I put it. Hence, the MERIT SYSTEM that has no merit.
Merits are still dropping just fine.

...To top things off I have no weekly assignments message. COMPLETELY BLANK! SO There are no assignments to get merits with, a drastically reduced amount of rares to trade, and there's only 1 Titan left. Where's the gameplay? Nerfing is not content creation.
You don't need the assignments.
Just do Powerplay activities - you will still rank up.
 
Well that’s the only way to do it if you’re going to argue that you can make 20K merits a week. But no, players won’t decide to consume their time with the grind, they just won’t bother with PP2 at all so what was then the point of it all?
20k merits are achievable doing at least half a dozen of things... cycling them in different days, shouldn't be that boring 🤷‍♂️

The point of powerplay? The point of a video game: have fun.
 
The reward is the joy! The Adrenaline you feel on the motorcycle(Harley here). Everything you do in life has a reward attached to it, whether it's physical, mental , spiritual or emotional. If you don't do things for the joy(reward) than why do them? Are you some kind of Taoist monk who is centered in nothingness? Come on. I've waited a long time for the change in PP but it seems it's not any better than the first.
Nice, I ride a BMW R nineT. Always good to meet a fellow motorcycle enthusiast.

There's plenty of players who are enjoying the PowerPlay 2.0 gameplay, balancing issues notwithstanding. I've already picked some systems out that me and my group want to try and take or flip. That's fun for us. The same kind of fun that I get from other activities I enjoy. The reward to me is seeing the system flip following my actions, the modules and bonuses are just icing on the cake for me. I've always like dabbling in various gameplay loops in Elite, so PP2.0 suits me to the ground. I guess if an individual finds their fun in moving a rank bar and getting milestone rewards, then yes, PP2.0 is probably a bit slow to be a long-term investment. As they say, horses for courses. Most of my mates don't understand the draw from exploring, so not everything in the game is for everyone. I can understand why you're frustrated after hoping for something different though.
 
That the current discussion is dominated by module shoppers and rank grinders is unfortunate and possibly detrimental to PP, in my opinion.
You can ignore all that and still find come to the same root cause of merit rewards being unbalanced across activities and unlocks taking more effort than before.

It would have been great if the thargoid war had this level of info on how much certain activities help with progress, the flaws with orhtrus hunting in alerts and sampling vs combat being imbalanced early on would've been more obvious and easier to catch. The in-game info is still pretty bad at telling you how much you'll get for doing something before you do it which leads to requiring players to experiment in weird ways that could disrupt normal gameplay if you don't want to just look it up online. If powerplay is meant to be at all strategic then encouraging a more planning-focused playstyle even on the individual level would be a better fit than experimenting thats just throwing crap at the wall until you find the good activity for getting merits and/or helping your power.

I abused the hell out of the relic trade and got rank 729k merits (rank 94) the first week so I could ignore the progression system. I wish I could say there's a good progression system hidden behind all the grind, but there isn't. There's definitely more fun ways to do progression systems and unlocks than this (or most other unlocks in Elite).

Unless some other power has insane bonuses to PP cargo trading that I'm missing I think just swapping the rewards for rares trading and delivering PP cargo would be a good fix. Whatever rebalance there is it'll probably feel like pulling up the ladder similar to players who missed the exobiology elite rank after the scanning rewards were rebalaned. Unless the merit rewards are also multiplied by a significant amount, which is how a lot of other credit reward balances ended up.
 
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The reward is the joy! The Adrenaline you feel on the motorcycle(Harley here). Everything you do in life has a reward attached to it, whether it's physical, mental , spiritual or emotional. If you don't do things for the joy(reward) than why do them? Are you some kind of Taoist monk who is centered in nothingness? Come on. I've waited a long time for the change in PP but it seems it's not any better than the first.
I play this game because I enjoy sitting in a spaceship in VR and zoom around the galaxy (or, mostly, the bubble). Everything else is just a bonus and a reason to do it. But as long as I can fly my spaceship, I am happy. I don't care about rewards, challenge or progression.

Hmmm, maybe I am a Taoist monk.
 
I think you're a little delulu Rebel, 20k a week? where? How? Maybe 5-10 max. It's going to take a lot longer to get the mods than PP 1.0
I made 24K in a couple days while trying to figure out PP2.0, did some other activities, rebuilt a couple ships weapons and engineered them. I didn't do any rares except the initial unlock mission. It was all Power Wreckage Sites. A nice combo of search, salvage, and blowing up enemy transport ships.

With more experience I expect I can easily make more than 20K per week along with other activities. Some weeks I might not play, other weeks I can make up for it. Do I even want all the PP modules? Certainly not, I already have the ones I want. So for me, maybe 30 weeks of waiting.
 
Tell me what other rewards are there in PP? Module shoppers? Say the person who has all his modules. I don't even have 1 yet. I'm seeking reward for the gameplay I put it. Hence, the MERIT SYSTEM that has no merit.
Why modules ??
Why do people do BGS ?
For the fun of it.
Invariably those who enjoy PP will continue and those who don't care or understand will leave it be and won't be "forced?" ( Not quite but it's the best my brain can come up with ) Into playing a game they have no interest in
It was Fdev who thought that giving a reward would get more people involved ?
 
It was on this day that the phrase "module shopper" was invented by Helmut Grokenberger who like to eat his own shorts without ketchup. o7 Commander
It was back in the time, but no one ever reclaimed it :D ..not going to comment about one eating his own shorts without ketchup.
 
I think you're a little delulu Rebel, 20k a week? where? How? Maybe 5-10 max. It's going to take a lot longer to get the mods than PP 1.0
I got 33k last week without using either rares or exploration data, and without playing at all for two days.

Undermining primarily with kills+salvage seems to give 2.5k per hour, so 20k/week is practical for anyone who plays a fair bit; fortification is even more efficient.

(I am not at all optimised, particularly skilled, or at all capable of min-maxing anything)
 
not going to comment about one eating his own shorts without ketchup.
oh don't worry too much about it. They are just trying to mock me because I said I'd publically eat my shorts (i.e. admit I am wrong) if I am wrong about the rares nerf. Cause you know, that's what grown ups do. Let them have their fun.

Edited to form sentences that actually make sense. Words is hard.
 
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I think you're a little delulu Rebel, 20k a week? where? How? Maybe 5-10 max. It's going to take a lot longer to get the mods than PP 1.0
Last week with 24K merits I did not make it into the top 25% on the Nakao Kaines leaderboard. Which means >25% of cmdrs pledged to Kaines did better than 24K merits.

This week I will pay attention how many merits I have when I reach the 50% point. It will be Obviously 50% of cmdrs will have exceeded that amount.


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Oh wait... I just checked my INARA transactions and I got 10 million too. I must have snuck into the top 25%
 
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