More Merits with the same cargo, you sir are nothing more then click-bait. Python is way better at Deep Core Mining then the Clipper. Only thing the Clipper has on the Python is 140 more boost speed. Python is Medium, Clipper is large. Python has more collectors and better weapon placements. Clipper maybe cool but that's about all it is. In any type of mining you can only go as fast as your collectors limpets can pick up and sadly Clipper doesn't have many so all that speed is wasted. Also when you have the Cargo hatch up and moving about asteroids you don't get to move "fast" nor should you. Python can even have a Fuel Scoop, that can move itself around. Clipper cannot, so even with an FC removing the Python's Fuel Scoop just gives it more collectors. What a waste of an argument.
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Remember, you get that cargo faster with the clipper! By the time the python has filled up, the Clipper has already sold its cargo and returned. After all, your collector limpets can't do anything if you don't have a core for them to collect from!
Inara doesn't display rare commodities properly. Most likely all those stations showing you 0 supply actually had some supply but Inara was just tricking you.
https://elite.lsdl.kr/ Use that instead
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I totally get it, I would love nothing more then to have a better and holier then thou Clipper build. It just doesn't exist, both Python and Type-8 are far better at Deep Core Mining then the Clipper.
T8 is also a very decent ship, but it also struggles from the same lack of speed. Don't get me wrong, you can deep core mine just fine with one, but you'll never be quite as fast as a Clipper.
Exploration and Exobiology.
Exploration went from 1 merit per 15k, to 1 merit per 80k.
Exobiology went from 1 merit per 500k, to 1 merit per 2.5M
Pre-nerf, first discovery bonuses were factored-in, post nerf, they were ignored.
prior to being nerfed both were just "suspended while we investigate".
what makes you think this time will be different?
That "last 3 weeks" bit was not in the context though.
I quoted that post in my previous reply.
"It's all about unlocking those Modules,....."
Since that post did not quote anything, the word "it" could stand for PPV2 as a whole (the topic of the thread). Not only its first 3 weeks, but also its entire future. At least that was how I understood it.
Seriously? You know PP 2.0 has only been out for 3 weeks right? Have you been reading anything else on this thread?
Enough.
Sorry but you can claim racing speeds all you want but Limpet Speed is where the true mining speed comes from.
As medium ships: both Python https://s.orbis.zone/qEp5 and Type 8 https://s.orbis.zone/qEp6 out perform the large Clipper https://s.orbis.zone/qEpb in every mining aspect. Using Identical builds for all 3, needing a cargo ship or an FC to move the goods around. Clipper doesn't get the job done well enough to perform as needed. If we was in a racing match all the more power to the Clipper but in that case there are smaller ships that can go faster. lol
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What is your problem? You seem upset.
Yes, PPV2 has only been out for 3 weeks as of yet. However, it seems that from now on this will be way to unlock these modules.
People are talking about PPV2 in this thread, not specifically and exclusively about how the new system has been performing for 3 weeks.
Limpet speed only matters insofar as you are unable to collect everything as quickly as possible. The Clipper, Python, and T8 can all collect a core just as fast as each other, because you will need to be inside the core for a certain amount of time to shoot all the interior surface deposits, regardless of how many limpets you have. If anything, the clipper likely can go slightly faster, because it's got superior agility and so can more rapidly spin around inside to snipe the surface deposits!
Do remember to carry a Mining Multi-Limpet Controller, though. It's got 4 collector limpets instead of 2, and for core mining you can use the prospector limpets without any loss in mineral collection rates.
There really aren't even many smaller ships that can boost faster, to be honest.
I'm aware of that. I paid more attention to the values that were non-zero and how high they were.
I was merely refuting the point that all the rares had their amounts nerfed. No, it's following the system state. This week (or at least until 2 days ago, haven't checked recently) a certain rare item was consistently showing a quantity of 100 available. And indeed, ever time I went there, it was that high. I fairly certain that system is in a Boom state this week and it wasn't even on my radar the previous weeks.
Oh, sure. I was only talking about the amount of hours per se. Of course for merits, it depends a lot on playstyle. Someone who is "just playing the game" and gathering merits along the way can put many more hours into it and not be anywhere near the people who were just duplicating PP data for hours on end.
Even changing to a multi-limpet on a Size 3, still not good enough to out perform the Python or Type-8. Any smaller ship with a Enhanced Performance Thruster could most likely go faster then the Clipper. lol
Oh i see, then that makes more sense yes. I must've misread it. Edibles always do that for me
I do agree, I'm also certain in the end it'll be the same thing they did to material farming. It'll just take the players a long time of complaining for FDEV to finally figure it out...
I'm curious what metric you're using?
Let's assume it takes, say, 60 seconds to finish abrasion blastering all the interior surface deposits(probably way too fast, but let's make this as bad for the clipper as possible).
Then, let's assume that collector limpets can grab a fragment in, say, 20 seconds. At most you're looking at 15 fragments released initially, which means with the Clipper's 8 collectors(you forgot a surface scanner) it only takes you about 40 seconds to have already collected all the fragments initially released, and you'll have excess limpets for the remaining 20 seconds.
IE, there's no difference in time between the two. If anything, the fact the clipper can turn ~40% faster means you'll actually finish mining the core ~40% faster, as well.
You might be surprised when it comes to speed, as well. There are a few that can get way up there, but when doing so they're so mass-limited, all they can effectively do is race. When it comes to speed combined with effectiveness, the only real competition the Clipper has is the Mamba.
I'm honestly surprised how much people underrate the clipper. It's very good in the right circumstances.
Does Frontier actually truly depend upon EliteDangerous 'customers' though?
i've only been here 6+ months , so for me everything in the game is still pure honeymoon phase & gravytrain space
but almost all the pilot vets i've spoken with tell me Frontier's real bread-winner is their OTHER games, no?They ( 'FDev' ) don't appear to ever be in too much of an enthusiastic hurry to post much onto these forums either. Is that just a simple by-product of 10 years old game or choosing to keep things isolated within each monthly LiveStream or whatever?
*EDIT: lol of course now i just noticed this FDev post which happened as i was typing--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...dancy-update-1-thursday-21st-november.630523/
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