Chances are that it will never see a wide release, just like the 5600X3D. Unless you want to buy one at a significant markup from eBay or the like, you'll have to get one in person at a Microcenter.
Building a new PC for Elite: Dangerous Odyssey (hardware discussion)
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Chances are that it will never see a wide release, just like the 5600X3D. Unless you want to buy one at a significant markup from eBay or the like, you'll have to get one in person at a Microcenter.
Hi @Alec Turner (and all the other sages on this thread),
I've been catching up on this thread as my PC follows a similar path and spec to yours before this upgrade. I've also now jumped into the Quest 3 and would love to try ED in VR. I've watcehd some of your vids in the last 12 months where UI think you are using VR but I couldn't find anything through the search function so I wondered if you could share any view or experience based on your new PC Build. Does the 7800 and 4070Ti super deliver a good VR experience?
Thanks in advance
cmdr K
o7
I've been catching up on this thread as my PC follows a similar path and spec to yours before this upgrade. I've also now jumped into the Quest 3 and would love to try ED in VR. I've watcehd some of your vids in the last 12 months where UI think you are using VR but I couldn't find anything through the search function so I wondered if you could share any view or experience based on your new PC Build. Does the 7800 and 4070Ti super deliver a good VR experience?
Thanks in advance
cmdr K
o7
I think I may * be taking the plunge into a new rig once the RTX 5080 is out and its drivers matured.
* being the operative word
* being the operative word
Hello. o/
In fact I haven't actually played Elite in VR for a long time now. I'm sure this new PC would handle it absolutely fine but I just prefer not having to wear the headset when I'm playing these days. What you'll probably have seen in my videos is my use of a headlook device (I use a TrackIR5 which means that as I move my head so my view in the game turns with it). That, in combination with a nice 1440p curved screen with all ED's settings on Max/Ultra gives me such clear graphics (at a steady 120fps) without all the faff of wearing a VR device that I just prefer it. That said, I'm sure this rig would also deliver an excellent VR experience as well.
Sounds like a nice setup you have Alex. I myself just finish upgrading my computer with all new parts, still waiting for a couple more items to show up.
I went with AMD also, RTX 4070 Super, etc... Did this upgrade cause killed my old system and happens everything was on sale which is great cause funds are limited now that I am retired.
See ya out there and enjoy.
I went with AMD also, RTX 4070 Super, etc... Did this upgrade cause killed my old system and happens everything was on sale which is great cause funds are limited now that I am retired.
See ya out there and enjoy.
How are your graphics set up are you running HDR in windows? I have a 4k curved and really struggle to get the right mix so that I don't get all the color banding. Its really bad in the launcher looks terrible then when the game comes up its much better but even going into the green cloud at a titan looks terrible banding everywhere. I have a 4090 and the color on that is set to 10 bit RGB am I missing something?
I'm not running HDR. You really shouldn't be getting colour banding tho'. Have you tried turning HDR off just to check if that's the problem?
Elite Dangerous does not support HDR though does it.
rootsrat
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It doesn't natively, but it looks better in HDR imo
It could potentially increase the already existing banding in the engine, especially in bright lighting conditions.
Personally I use debanding shader in my own reshade preset to combat it and it works pretty well, with some terrain details being lost in the gradients as a compromise.
Thanks for the reply and yes that is exactly how mine is it looks better having it on but in certain situations especially bright lighting the wash out is terrible. Hard to believe such a beautiful game as this one does not have the ability to run HDR in 4k. Every other game I have which are all flight sim and racing games look stunning on my monitor this one looks like a kindergarden drawing when loading. Turning it off does not help and I am not willing to start lowering resolution on a awesome monitor just for one stupid game in the collection. Oh well just will have to cringe and bear it when it occurs.It doesn't natively, but it looks better in HDR imo
It could potentially increase the already existing banding in the engine, especially in bright lighting conditions.
Personally I use debanding shader in my own reshade preset to combat it and it works pretty well, with some terrain details being lost in the gradients as a compromise.
I'd love to play the game in HDR on my TV and PC display. Few FD games seem to support HDR natively, however. Of those that do, there seem to be quite a few complaints about it.
Hi
I've just looked on the web...
"NVIDIA's next-gen GeForce RTX 50 series 'Blackwell' GPU pricing leaked: RTX 5090 for $1999 to $2499, RTX 5080 for $1199 to $1499, RTX 5070 for $599 to $699".
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/1010...9-2499-5080-1199-1499-5070-599-699/index.html
....'Thump'!!...Faints and then hit's the floor (at the RTX 5080 estimated prices).
Jack
I've just looked on the web...
"NVIDIA's next-gen GeForce RTX 50 series 'Blackwell' GPU pricing leaked: RTX 5090 for $1999 to $2499, RTX 5080 for $1199 to $1499, RTX 5070 for $599 to $699".
Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/1010...9-2499-5080-1199-1499-5070-599-699/index.html
....'Thump'!!...Faints and then hit's the floor (at the RTX 5080 estimated prices). Jack
Obscene
Thing is, they've (nVidia) just about corner the market and dominate a huge percentage of it.
They can charge what they like.
Thing is, they've (nVidia) just about corner the market and dominate a huge percentage of it.
They can charge what they like.
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Wish they would leak the specs does it have a 2.1 DP port more specifically as that is the biggest drawback of my 4090 is it only has a 1.4 DP port. They keep saying it will easily do 120 HZ 4k gaming well so does the 4090 need that 2.1 DP for 240hz 4K so yes or no are you going to put it on there.
... oh yeah, AND I bet stock is really thin on the ground at launch due to heinous scalping.
Was anyone expecting anything less?
We have a market overwhelmingly dominated by a single company, that is engaged in tacit collusion, with it's dramatically smaller 'competitors', to refrain from competition in certain market segments.
We have a market where the revenues have become wholly decoupled from the budgets driving development of the hardware being sold, as the dramatically larger enterprise cloud and AI markets subsidize everything. Gaming is a fringe concern; a way for the brand to reach the wider public, and a hedge against potential volatility elsewhere. Hardware and software are designed for AI, then adapted to gaming. Aspects not particularly suited to gaming are shoehorned in anyway, under the guise of new 'features', while demand for those features is artificially inflated by pressuring developers to strategically deoptimize games.
We have the threat of tariffs providing convenient cover for price increases, despite the bulk of initial production beating the implementation of said tariffs, and much of production being moved to avoid future ones.
People will buy as many of these 2k+ USD parts as they can sell (which won't be many, because even at 2500 Dollars, the profit margins are pathetic compared to the same wafer allocation going to AI instead). It's a thoroughly captive market, with no alternatives, if one wants vaguely similar performance.
At ~1200USD the 5080 will sell well, as it will compete with the 4090 in most areas (making it significantly faster than anything that isn't an RTX 4090 or 5090), while needing less power.
600-700USD 5070s will sell because 12GiB of VRAM is enough and the NVIDIA tax can be justified by an improved feature set.
Most of the rest of the stack will still sell well enough, mostly because people are stupid and mindshare lives rent free in the sparsely populated skulls of brand loyalists.
AMD and Intel have withdrawn from the high-end, while NVIDIA's mainstream offerings are both overpriced and lack VRAM. It's going to make for some very easy recommendations based on budget, but sure isn't going to represent healthy competition, outside perhaps, the 200-400USD segment where there is some overlap between viable parts.
My RTX 4090 can do 4k240, even with HDR (they've even patched scRGB 16-bit HDR to support frame generation in drivers starting about 9-12 months ago). DSC is near omnipresent and is a ~3:1 compression ratio.
That said, I'd be astonished if the 5000 series doesn't have DP 2.1, because 1.4a is at it's limits, even with DSC.
We have a market overwhelmingly dominated by a single company, that is engaged in tacit collusion, with it's dramatically smaller 'competitors', to refrain from competition in certain market segments.
We have a market where the revenues have become wholly decoupled from the budgets driving development of the hardware being sold, as the dramatically larger enterprise cloud and AI markets subsidize everything. Gaming is a fringe concern; a way for the brand to reach the wider public, and a hedge against potential volatility elsewhere. Hardware and software are designed for AI, then adapted to gaming. Aspects not particularly suited to gaming are shoehorned in anyway, under the guise of new 'features', while demand for those features is artificially inflated by pressuring developers to strategically deoptimize games.
We have the threat of tariffs providing convenient cover for price increases, despite the bulk of initial production beating the implementation of said tariffs, and much of production being moved to avoid future ones.
People will buy as many of these 2k+ USD parts as they can sell (which won't be many, because even at 2500 Dollars, the profit margins are pathetic compared to the same wafer allocation going to AI instead). It's a thoroughly captive market, with no alternatives, if one wants vaguely similar performance.
At ~1200USD the 5080 will sell well, as it will compete with the 4090 in most areas (making it significantly faster than anything that isn't an RTX 4090 or 5090), while needing less power.
600-700USD 5070s will sell because 12GiB of VRAM is enough and the NVIDIA tax can be justified by an improved feature set.
Most of the rest of the stack will still sell well enough, mostly because people are stupid and mindshare lives rent free in the sparsely populated skulls of brand loyalists.
AMD and Intel have withdrawn from the high-end, while NVIDIA's mainstream offerings are both overpriced and lack VRAM. It's going to make for some very easy recommendations based on budget, but sure isn't going to represent healthy competition, outside perhaps, the 200-400USD segment where there is some overlap between viable parts.
My RTX 4090 can do 4k240, even with HDR (they've even patched scRGB 16-bit HDR to support frame generation in drivers starting about 9-12 months ago). DSC is near omnipresent and is a ~3:1 compression ratio.
That said, I'd be astonished if the 5000 series doesn't have DP 2.1, because 1.4a is at it's limits, even with DSC.
Yeah I cannot on mine as it is native at 7680 x 2160 so max is 120HZ not enough bandwidth so monitor is ready for DP 2.1 but even the best NVidea card is not and the 7800XTX is the only card that can do it but heard it struggles too.
I bought a top spec Dell PC for playing ED in VR, but now I regret it. The VR was great for a couple of days, but then several things happened. The wow factor wore off, the discomfort started to become annoying, the shortcomings of the game became even more annoying. I got a stiff neck from having to look behind me every time I accessed the left panel on my Corvette. I got annoyed because I missed phone calls and visitors' doorbell rings. I decided that it was better to play on a normal monitor. I guess VR isn't for everyone.
Thereafter I was playing on a 4k monitor, which is nice, but the small room I played in got terribly hot because of all the fans going like hair-dryers. Then I saw my electricity bill. I play a lot and running a PC at an average of 500w was starting to cost me serious money. I carried on for a bit, then I got a laptop with a mobile RTX 4070, which seems to use very little power. The screen is only 2560 x 1600, but it's OK. I have mounted my sticks on a board and the laptop sits between them. Now I can sit in the armchair and play with the arrangement sitting on my lap, while watching films or Youtube on my tablet. It's not perfect, but I'm much happier.