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[WeComeInPeace]

If we just stopped putting murderers in jail, it would be because that is what we are already pre-determined to do.
So no-one could be blamed if they go on to kill thousands of innocents, yes?

Quite the contrary. We send murderers to jail, and that is as predetermined as Friday coming after Thursday. We also blame people for doing bad things, and that is predetermined too. The whole idea of not being able to judge or blame anyone is misunderstood. We do both in this determined Universe. It's like when people ask why they should get up in the morning if everything is determined. For starters, you need to get out of bed to have breakfast and coffee, and if you just stayed in bed, you'd probably die rather quickly. Try and ask yourself what the different consequences of making a determined choice and a "free" one is? The definition of a free choice is one where you could have chosen something different. Free will only makes sense if we could go back in time, undo a choice, and do otherwise. We can't, even though it sometimes would be nice if we were able to.

I know it sounds crazy, or even offensive to some, but it really isn't. Nobody is taking away your ability to chose.

 

[the100thmonkey]

You've no evidence for the position. Neither side of this pseudo-debate do (Wittgenstein would argue that the 'debate' is a result of the limitations of analytic philosophy). That an interpretation is weird to you (or anyone else) does not mean it is the incorrect one - that's just the argument from incredulity (a fallacy). By the same token, denying a proposition does not qualify its antithesis as true, as that conclusion is grounded in its own faulty reasoning - the excluded middle fallacy.

The discourse about metaphysical determinism is pretty much meaningless in its entirety and attitudes to it are based on vibes - it's an intractable problem given current methods and tools available. The only thing that might move the discussion forward is actual physical evidence, which has not been forthcoming - if it had, it would be an actual scientific discussion, not one centring the inability of human symbolic systems and measurement to deal with observations.

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

I think there is a relation between the percentage* of discovered systems in this game and the percentage* of all the knowledge in our world...

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*: The relation of discovered systems/knowledge to what is still to be found out there.

 

[Codger]

I landed on this airless moon because it had Geological activity, and I wanted to take a look.

It was lava spouts and such. Some of them had needle crystals or other features, so I was able to pick up some Tin, Chromium, Vanadium, and other stuff. I still find it fun to use the Wavescanner and zero-in on the various formations and features, then shoot them and see what I get.

I also found this odd planet with miles of Tussocks.

Exploration-wise I found a Waterworld and a couple of Terraformable HMCs.

The Cobra MKV is turning out to be just spectacular for Exobiology. I can see everything around me so easily, and land smack-dab next to a biological target. I disembark at the front, mere steps from the thing I have to scan. Then off I go to the next.

The ship flies fast, very fast, yet is entirely controllable and easy to maneuver. It shoots off a planet in seconds, and then on to the next in a blaze of hydrogen fuel. It runs cool and scoops fast. It doesn't quite have the jump range of my DBX, but it still very good and not a problem at all.

My trusty DBX has met its match. It will gather dust now.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

Ongoing Investigation Of Network Issues | 15.01.25

Greetings Commanders, We are aware and have been investigating the following issues, which we are hoping to resolve as soon as possible: Long jump times and disconnects (leading to Orange Sidewinder & Mauve Adder errors) Microresource issues (notably with Bartenders) - we previously...

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[Markov Chaney]

You might also find systems where the first dico for the sun and close by bodies are taken, but further out bodies are still up for grabs. That means that you are the first to visit this system since the FSS was introduced.

Hard to tell in the Bubble, given you frequently get award the Frist!! certificate even when the System Map had the name of some guy right there on the bottom of the screen when you were sat there working out what order you needed to do DSS fly-bys. But yes I've definitely had some unambiguous cases where the Previous Guy had clearly not bothered flying out to the C-D barycentre.

 

[Markov Chaney]

Ongoing Investigation Of Network Issues | 15.01.25

Greetings Commanders, We are aware and have been investigating the following issues, which we are hoping to resolve as soon as possible: Long jump times and disconnects (leading to Orange Sidewinder & Mauve Adder errors) Microresource issues (notably with Bartenders) - we previously...

forums.frontier.co.uk

It addressed a minority of issues, and replies are disabled so nobody can point that out. Not sure an acknowledgement two months late with a mildly gaslighty tone and zero engagement is quite the look FDev should have gone for there.

But at least now we know and we can point people back to that when threads go crazy...

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

It addressed a minority of issues, and replies are disabled so nobody can point that out. Not sure an acknowledgement two months late with a mildly gaslighty tone and zero engagement is quite the look FDev should have gone for there.

But at least now we know and we can point people back to that when threads go crazy...

Jump times about an hour ago seemed normal again. Hoping I'm not speaking too soon.

At least the micro stutter/freeze issue is on the tracker even if it hasn't been acted on yet. Mind you, I haven't been in GCZ for a while which, for me, is where it's really noticeable.

I'm still out in the Sanguineous Rim finding unexplored systems. Which is nice. I yearn to find an NSP though as I haven't come across one in yonks.

 

[Rustnsawdust]

Jump times about an hour ago seemed normal again

Since I'm just back in the game, I couldn't attest to normal jump times. But I've been doing a lot of it today and it seems very slow compared to my memory of the game. It was so noticeable that I started counting seconds - 15 or 20 seconds in witchspace was rather common.

But today was my first real attempt at exobio hunting and I declare it a success. Didn't find much jumping away from Colonia but today has been a good string of undiscovered systems, and plenty of bio targets. I'm a bit cack-handed at putting the ship down where I want it - and I'm really struggling to see lifeforms in the scans - but I've been lucky enough to stumble on targets pretty quickly. Good fun!

 

[0threeleven]

I'm really struggling to see lifeforms in the scans - but I've been lucky enough to stumble on targets pretty quickly. Good fun!

I like to stay 100 meters above the surface, cruise slowly and switch to external camera. You can look everywhere with that method, go above or below the ship, zoom in zoom out, cruise through valleys.

 

[CMDR Timber McWolf]

15 or 20 seconds in witchspace was rather common

That sounds like the normal jump time to me. At least that's what fellow Buckyballers told me would be about normal.

I like to stay 100 meters above the surface

I wish I had that LOD and drawing distance...
If I want to find anything while flying, I have to go down to ~20 meters and cruise at about 10 m/s...

So you can say, your mileage may vary, depending on your graphics settings.

 

[Markov Chaney]

That will do for my first ever full expedition on foot, thank you nicely. Did one 1km jog and the rest of the time I just got in and out of the SRV.

I spotted two bacteria sites whilst I was doing the third Stratum, so what I did was recall the ship and park it over one of the patches, pointing at the other patch, so I could find them again!

 

[K Olley]

But today was my first real attempt at exobio hunting and I declare it a success.

It's a big learning curve, some types are easy to find others can be a little harder, night vision with certain types of bio can help highlight them and some types prefer specific terrain.

 

[Markov Chaney]

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That will do for my first ever full expedition on foot, thank you nicely. Did one 1km jog and the rest of the time I just got in and out of the SRV.

Hm, that 1km was for the Tectonicas... but the Wiki says 500m should be sufficient. I tried one at 600-and-odd I'm sure.

 

[Zieman]

Hey Deck Officer, did we have a Trumble infestation, or why did you park my carrier inside fuel scooping range?

 

[K Olley]

That will do for my first ever full expedition on foot, thank you nicely. Did one 1km jog and the rest of the time I just got in and out of the SRV.

I find that if you use the sprint or run and then jump repeatedly you can maintain the speed for a long distance, easily up to 1km.

Hm, that 1km was for the Tectonicas... but the Wiki says 500m should be sufficient. I tried one at 600-and-odd I'm sure.

Turn around and you can get the distances and directions to your previous scans in the bit at the top of the screen.

 

[Markov Chaney]

Turn around and you can get the distances and directions to your previous scans in the bit at the top of the screen.

I figured that out, which is how I know it was 600-something.

It's remembering where things are if you see them before you are able to come back and scan them that's the tricky part... (and yes I know I could write down lat/long but c'mon this Artemis was an expensive bit of kit, gimme virtual pins in the HUD)

 

[K Olley]

It's remembering where things are if you see them before you are able to come back and scan them that's the tricky part.

I know the feeling, try jumping - jetpack, or jumping on ship if available.

 

[aRJay]

I figured that out, which is how I know it was 600-something.

It's remembering where things are if you see them before you are able to come back and scan them that's the tricky part... (and yes I know I could write down lat/long but c'mon this Artemis was an expensive bit of kit, gimme virtual pins in the HUD)

The distances are the minimum you have to go before you can get another valid scan, not how far to the next clump.

I have on occasion taken a sample from one side of a large clump of something only to find the next visible clump ends about a metre short of the exclusion zone, so I would have had two samples if I had sampled the specimen on the other side of my ship first.

Some kind of marker would be nice, I think one or more of the third party tools might have something like that, the one I use doesn’t.

 

[K Olley]

I have on occasion taken a sample from one side of a large clump of something only to find the next visible clump ends about a metre short of the exclusion zone, so I would have had two samples if I had sampled the specimen on the other side of my ship first.

Big area's of bio's like tussock I use a running / jumping and scanning routine until I get a green - scan that and carry on.

I also find this technique is useful in rocky or mountainous ground and to listen for the peep for the second and third samples.