COMPLETED CG Brewer Corporation Planetary Survey Initiative (Exploration)

[Flossy]

Ah, glad to see that's real - was it a big bonus?

Not massive, I got 230,000 for a system with 30 bodies - BUT - there does seem to be a 4x multiplier in force on all data sold. I couldn't understand how my balance had increased by over 2 million credits after selling just over half a million in data, so checked my journal file

 

[Brrokk]

It is an exploration CG why bother with a large ship.

As for FCs apart from PP aren’t they on,y available to players?

This is my new favourite exploration ship. With the new type of FSD I'm getting 50ly jump range. Also, it can land on a sixpence.

 

[Neilski]

Not massive, I got 230,000 for a system with 30 bodies - BUT - there does seem to be a 4x multiplier in force on all data sold. I couldn't understand how my balance had increased by over 2 million credits after selling just over half a million in data, so checked my journal file

Ah, nice bonus then, and the multiplier is even nicer!
(And well done for spotting the unexpected balance increase btw - I'd never have noticed it, with my cash balance having recently reached 11 digits, which is kinda silly even if there are people with 100x more than that. Maybe you're doing a better job than me of actually spending your income )

 

[aRJay]

Ah, nice bonus then, and the multiplier is even nicer!
(And well done for spotting the unexpected balance increase btw - I'd never have noticed it, with my cash balance having recently reached 11 digits, which is kinda silly even if there are people with 100x more than that. Maybe you're doing a better job than me of actually spending your income )

If you have an FC just put all the excess money in its bank, that way you can have a recognisable balance in your ship account.

 

[K Olley]

If you have an FC just put all the excess money in its bank, that way you can have a recognisable balance in your ship account.

Only one problem with that, I don't think I will be around in 150 yr's time

 

[Rhialto]

I joined up.
Just because it's been a while since i did some exploration, a good time to break in the Mandalay.
Using the Fss and Dss was a bit rusty, but it's coming back.
I already have several first discoveries and first footfalls.

 

[Neilski]

If you have an FC just put all the excess money in its bank, that way you can have a recognisable balance in your ship account.

Good idea. I already have a few billion in there but no harm (other than the loooong time it takes for the transfer amount to tick up!) not to transfer a lot more.

 

[Sublime]

New Asp Explorer buindle states "uncover the hidden" and the same day a major corp Community Goal wants people to actually, properly, map everything around the core systems... sounds near identical to the work done by tons of CMDRs over the years to find Raxxla.

A the same time:
There is a CMDR group who is 3D mapping the 200ly radius of Sol who has been doing this same thing for a while now. They have most of it done.

I know I may seem like a nut but something about all it feels wildly coincidential... and it also feels like a nudge from FDev to get people to stop half-assing the system scans in the region... lol

Excited to see what "Hidden" things people may finally discover in this region and excited to contribute to the goal here.

It’s just a load of fluff to get naive noobs to spend arx. Don’t fall for it.

 

[DjVortex]

So, mapping them adds nothing to CG goal?

AFAIK FSS-scanning and DSS-scanning the planet counts as 2 contributions. Only FSS-scanning it counts as only 1.

 

[Frand0m]

Pay close attention to the value of your data before selling it!
You may not be as annoyed as I am if you already are billionaires, but the DSS efficiency bonus system is still bugged for me this morning.
When checking the value of my scans at a station a moment ago, some had their bonus gone, and some had it back to normal... A 9.5M system down to 3.7M, a 1.5M back to 3.9M!
Take a look at these screenshots from a few weeks ago. It went back to normal when I logged in the next day, but the bonus can also disappear overnight...

I tried to make a report with the issue tracker, but it didn't work. I might just start a new thread, do they read them?

Bonne journée!

 

[varonica]

AFAIK FSS-scanning and DSS-scanning the planet counts as 2 contributions. Only FSS-scanning it counts as only 1.

Been scanning a lot of dwarf systems, T's and Y's, these are almost all icy bodies in the systems, it's way faster to just FSS and jump to the next system than stopping to map, even with mapping adding an extra point I think you will get more points FSS'ing and jumping immediately to the next system.

 

[Kira Goto]

Been scanning a lot of dwarf systems, T's and Y's, these are almost all icy bodies in the systems, it's way faster to just FSS and jump to the next system than stopping to map, even with mapping adding an extra point I think you will get more points FSS'ing and jumping immediately to the next system.

I think mapping might actually add two extra points (this matches with my experience as I could directly correlate a point increase of 'Scanned planetary bodies x 3 during hand-ins, even if I didn't fully map the entire system*), but it might well still be faster to just do the FSS scans and move along. If you're looking for most efficiency and/or score anyway, but going for mapping with or without supercruise assist would allow you to do/watch other things on the side, if you were thinking to.

*At least, I did not map the gas giants in the 3 or 4 systems which I covered, but if the CG counts mapping all the bodies relevant to it as "fully mapped system" for another boost of 50%...

 

[marx]

I know I may seem like a nut but something about all it feels wildly coincidential... and it also feels like a nudge from FDev to get people to stop half-assing the system scans in the region... lol

It's not half-assing though: when they introduced the FSS, the developers specifically talked about it being designed for players to just scan what they're interested in, and move on to the next jump if there isn't anything.
If Frontier now want people to fully scan every system, they'll need to motivate people to do so. Ideally, that would be by designing some better mechanics than the simple and grindy minigame that we have. However, that takes work, so the more likely scenario is that it'll get the exobiology treatment, with full system scans getting a 50x multiplier or similar.
(I'm not really joking there: when Frontier buffed exobio because too few people were doing it, they went with 20x on most payouts.)

 

[Spaceman-FXL5]

it's way faster to just FSS and jump to the next system than stopping to map,

Totally this. Even with full scan system taking between 1 to 3 minutes, you get 1 point per body, travelling to bodies even with SCO to map them for 2 more points each, takes way longer than just jumping to next system and doing another full system scan again!

EDIT - system with 40 bodies I get 40 points (OK I have no idea if I get 1 point for WW or ELW but I scan them anyways and also gas giants first as then you can concentrate on the remaining Icy and Rocky bodies!) - I have no idea how long mapping 40 bodies in a system would take - I think I would rather log off and go to pub - as I already have the 40% pre engineered DSS's from previous CG. Even if you engineer a DSS you can get 26% scan over 20% standard.

EDIT 2 - if they want 'mapped' data specifically, then we should be paid accordingly like 20x

 

[varonica]

Totally this. Even with full scan system taking between 1 to 3 minutes, you get 1 point per body, travelling to bodies even with SCO to map them for 2 more points each, takes way longer than just jumping to next system and doing another full system scan again!

It certainly does, and let me put it this way, the first day I mapped around 25 systems with many dwarf T, Y, and L's with icy bodies, jumped to the CG megaship and turned in that data and was immediately in the top 25% of contributors. Mapping those system didn't take long, and keep in mind I am doing this while also doing the Raxxla Potato Hunt process, so crashed ships, megaships, capital ships, mapping 8th moons etc and checking the number of signals per body for inhabited systems and logging everything, oh and also mapping any body with over a million in credits just for the heck of it, so ELW's, WW's and Teraformables mainly, and still the first set of data I turned in put me in the top 25% group.

Now, if it's true as some claim that the process is to encourage us to map these systems because some clue has been placed on the planets that won't be visible unless mapped, then they have set it up so that the most efficient way to get contribution points is to not actually map anything but just jump from system to system and use the FSS. So it does seem a rather badly thought out CG if they want us to actually map stuff.

 

[CMDR Lefty Jackson]

Question...

Can you submit data more than once?

Say I submit and it only puts me at the minimum level of 100%, but I want to be at least 50%, can I go back out and scan, then return to submit more data?


"...Contributions will be valued by thoroughness, with full FSS scans & planetary probing completions rewarded higher..."

What is "planetry probing completions"?

What is the difference between a "full FSS scan" and I assume a not full scan? I've used FSS only a few times, basically new to it, so please forgive my ignorance to such technology! Such as, does that mean if a D-scan honk says there are 10 bodies, you FSS scan to get it to show 10/10? Sorry, I'm still really new to exploration scanning stuff!

Thanks for the info.

 

[Kzak]

Question...

Can you submit data more than once?

Say I submit and it only puts me at the minimum level of 100%, but I want to be at least 50%, can I go back out and scan, then return to submit more data?

What is the difference between a "full FSS scan" and I assume a not full scan? I've used FSS only a few times, basically new to it, so please forgive my ignorance to such technology! Such as, does that mean if a D-scan honk says there are 10 bodies, you FSS scan to get it to show 10/10? Sorry, I'm still really new to exploration scanning stuff!

Thanks for the info.

IIRC as long as the CG is open and active, you can submit data as often as you want. A 'full' FSS scan, I think, means FSSing every single body in the system. A non-full scan means less than 100% of the bodies in the system are scanned with the FSS.

 

[Flossy]

Question...

Can you submit data more than once?

Say I submit and it only puts me at the minimum level of 100%, but I want to be at least 50%, can I go back out and scan, then return to submit more data?

Yes of course you can - you can come and go as often as you like, adding more data each time. It's what I've been doing anyway!

What is the difference between a "full FSS scan" and I assume a not full scan? I've used FSS only a few times, basically new to it, so please forgive my ignorance to such technology! Such as, does that mean if a D-scan honk says there are 10 bodies, you FSS scan to get it to show 10/10? Sorry, I'm still really new to exploration scanning stuff!

Thanks for the info.

Yes that is correct, if you get 10/10 it will show as 100% completed (ignore all the signals at the bottom end of the scanner!)

 

[varonica]

does that mean if a D-scan honk says there are 10 bodies, you FSS scan to get it to show 10/10?

When you fully FSS a system a message comes up telling you that you have completed 100% of the system. Asteroids don't count towards mapping completion.

 

[CMDR Lefty Jackson]

Yes of course you can - you can come and go as often as you like, adding more data each time. It's what I've been doing anyway!



Yes that is correct, if you get 10/10 it will show as 100% completed (ignore all the signals at the bottom end of the scanner!)

- Can submit more than once, cool.

- Right, the middle to the right side of the FSS "signal bar" is where the planetary bodies are.

Thank you!