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The "exodus" thing has always been a bit of a myth that some content creators or other vested interests had tried to push as a narrative etc. The truth is we have seen as many testimonials of people moving from SC to ED over the years, if not more, as the other way around. Many of those we have posted here. Once you get rid of gaslighting in those testimonials for the most par it is the same kind of audience at the end of the day.

But it is true it seems we are seeing many more testimonials of SC players switching back to ED as of late.

I'm really talking about comments i've personally seen over the years, not just streamers or whoever trying to push a narrative by claiming it.

Its one thing for a streamer to claim "people are leaving ED for SC in droves" and another to see comments saying they themselves have made the change. Of course, nothing stops those comments coming from alt/fake/marketing accounts, but if we assume that for one we can't dismiss for the other.
 
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Viajero

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I'm really talking about comments i've personally seen over the years, not just streamers or whoever trying to push a narrative by claiming it.

Its one thing for a streamer to claim "people are leaving ED for SC in droves" and another to see comments saying they themselves have made the change. Of course, nothing stops those comments coming from alt/fake/marketing accounts, but if we assume that for one we can't dismiss for the other.
For sure. I am actually saying that if you get rid of that gaslighting there was no basis for the "exodus" claim since we have seen as many SC players claiming to switch to ED, if not more, over the years too. And we have posted many of those testimonials here.

Although it is true it seems we are seeing many more testimonials of SC players switching back to ED as of late.
 
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I think hell might be freezing over...

Bored has some interesting gossip again:

EDIT: Seems like it's a fake account / troll effort. Meh. See next post:

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BoredGamer: My video was copy struck down @Space Tomato The financial report showed how they bought turbulent and have them working on a new project, a fantasy type MMO with the new star engine

The comment seems to have been deleted now, but sitll appears in the VOD here.

Presumably this is gossip from his dev contact who discussed further c-suite leavers etc.

Bored actually got some content...

Source: https://youtu.be/yYdQCw6YRrg?si=PRJ0F-GHBb3VkOwn&t=110s

All aligns with names missing from CIG's About page, with a bonus suggestion that the CMO Elliott Chin will drop off soon too...

If that's one of the reasons for the financials being late, it's an intriguing one ;)
 
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I think hell might be freezing over...

Bored has some interesting gossip again:

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The comment seems to have been deleted now, but sitll appears in the VOD here.

Presumably this is gossip from his dev contact who discussed further c-suite leavers etc.



If that's one of the reasons for the financials being late, it's an intriguing one ;)

"That's just more ammo for everyone calling this a scam"

Yes, yes it is.

And if confirmed, its one in the eye for everyone who tried to brush off "soulsinger" as just being the name of new new magic tech for Star Citizen.

Also like Tomato's reaction to it and contrasting it to NMS/Light No Fire, where Helo Games released one game before starting on another. As a side note, Light No Fire does look quite interesting. Will wait for the reviews to come in after release though.

Wonder how Bored got to see the financial report... a leak i guess?
 
The "exodus" thing has always been a bit of a myth that some content creators or other vested interests had tried to push as a narrative etc. The truth is we have seen as many testimonials of people moving from SC to ED over the years, if not more, as the other way around. Many of those we have posted here. Once you get rid of gaslighting in those testimonials for the most par it is the same kind of audience at the end of the day.

But it is true it seems we are seeing many more testimonials of SC players switching back to ED as of late. Which would be supported by the last years uptick increase in Elite player concurrency averages. On the other hand SC has been dropping around 25% concurrency in the last couple of years.
Like most of the supposed exodus's from one side to t'other and back again...it solely depended if a persons tastes in gaming only extended as far as the very niche genre of spacehip games. Like the majority I suspect, I have fairly varied tastes in gaming and play a bit of everything...with the only exception being survival games.

To me personally with regard to ED or SC...it was never a case of either/or but more both... since they were never even vaguely similar to begin with, and to be fair...now I don't play either :whistle:
 
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rootsrat

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The "exodus" thing has always been a bit of a myth that some content creators or other vested interests had tried to push as a narrative etc.

I don't think that's entirely correct. The "exodus" was not an actual exodus, but following disastrous Odyssey release for sure A LOT of players ditched ED for SC. I am talking about our Hussars community, but with 400 people it is a substantial sample to fairly said it was a trend.

Note I'm talking about the couple of years that Odyssey was broken, both with bugs and performance issues (many of which were not fixed to this day).

If I were to guess, I'd say about 50% of those that went to play SC never came back to ED. (Joke's on them but still).
 

Viajero

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I don't think that's entirely correct. The "exodus" was not an actual exodus, but following disastrous Odyssey release for sure A LOT of players ditched ED for SC. I am talking about our Hussars community, but with 400 people it is a substantial sample to fairly said it was a trend.

Note I'm talking about the couple of years that Odyssey was broken, both with bugs and performance issues (many of which were not fixed to this day).

If I were to guess, I'd say about 50% of those that went to play SC never came back to ED. (Joke's on them but still).
SC has also had plenty "odyssey" moments too in the past that made many of SC players come to ED. We are just seeing closer the side we are more familiar with. We have seen this in many testimonials aswell. And many players that came to ED from SC probably never came back to SC either 🤷‍♂️

But it is true it seems we are seeing many more testimonials of SC players switching back to ED as of late. Which would be supported by the last years uptick increase in Elite player concurrency averages. And also the fact SC has been dropping around 25% concurrency in the last couple of years.
 
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Nah. SC has also had plenty "odyssey" moments too in the past that made many of SC players come to ED. We are just seeing closer the side we are more familiar with. And many players that came to ED from SC never came back to SC either 🤷‍♂️ We have seen this in many testimonials aswell.

But it is true it seems we are seeing many more testimonials of SC players switching back to ED as of late. Which would be supported by the last years uptick increase in Elite player concurrency averages. And also the fact SC has been dropping around 25% concurrency in the last couple of years.
A lot of the folks I drift along with have either just moved constantly between the two or played both over a number of years ...and still do (I have around 5,000 hours in both). Depends on which is flavour of the month or whatever suits the current mood or state of brokenness of one or t'other, especially amongst groups of long existing players/friends...but those are only the people that simply can't live without flying spaceships like I said.

My particular group of mates have about as many hours in ARMA, GR Wildlands or IL2 as we have in SC or ED 🤷‍♂️
 
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rootsrat

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SC has also had plenty "odyssey" moments too in the past that made many of SC players come to ED. We are just seeing closer the side we are more familiar with. We have seen this in many testimonials aswell. And many players that came to ED from SC probably never came back to SC either 🤷‍♂️

But it is true it seems we are seeing many more testimonials of SC players switching back to ED as of late. Which would be supported by the last years uptick increase in Elite player concurrency averages. And also the fact SC has been dropping around 25% concurrency in the last couple of years.
Yes, I suppose I don't really see the SC -> ED trend, because we've only recently formalised our Org in SC and before that it was an unofficial "reserve the name" kind of a thing, so we didn't really track any numbers. Also, the % of ED vs SC players is our community is extremely shifted towards ED obviously, so that's another reason I can't comment much on that side of things.

Just wanted to point out that while it wasn't an "exodus", there definitely was a couple of years during which quite a lot of people completely ditched ED for SC and it wasn't part of the organic, regular "I want to play something else for a while" organic thing. In fact that is partially the reason we've decided to go formal with our Org - it was big enough to warrant this step :)
 

Viajero

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Yes, I suppose I don't really see the SC -> ED trend, because we've only recently formalised our Org in SC and before that it was an unofficial "reserve the name" kind of a thing, so we didn't really track any numbers. Also, the % of ED vs SC players is our community is extremely shifted towards ED obviously, so that's another reason I can't comment much on that side of things.

Just wanted to point out that while it wasn't an "exodus", there definitely was a couple of years during which quite a lot of people completely ditched ED for SC and it wasn't part of the organic, regular "I want to play something else for a while" organic thing. In fact that is partially the reason we've decided to go formal with our Org - it was big enough to warrant this step :)
Nothing wrong with branching out of course, not sure when you guys did it but in the last couple of years the SC community has been decidely shrinking in both time played / concurreny and new accounts. And not insignificantly. I suspect many SC orgs are now defunct or at the very least inactive. And as we have seen in this very thread testimonials some of those have probably come (back) over here.

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SC has had many Odyssey moments, with their corresponding "exodus". The last couple of years of extremely bad stability and worst player experience is just one more such moment. Probably not the last. And I suspect the not insignificant number of testimonials we have seen of SC players back, or starting, in Elite has probably been part of Elite´s uptick in concurrency during the last 12-16 months.
 
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Stu found the oddest move rationale yet...

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You and StuGT deserve medals or at least badges for all the hard work! :) at least you attempt to make a difference to any naive or poorly informed potential backers.
 
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