Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

VR Golgot · Feb 2, 2025

Pretty sure some of the Redditors have given us FUD badges

Cosmo · Feb 3, 2025

ECity · Feb 3, 2025

Random moments:

Agony_Aunt · Feb 3, 2025

VR Golgot said:
Stu found the oddest move rationale yet...

What a Disappointment? - Star Citizen Spectrum

It is with a very heavy heart, Today. To suspend my monetary support for Star Citizen. For years I have witnessed the awe of Star Citizen. Sher beauty destroyed by endless patches that seem to only...

robertsspaceindustries.com

Then move all the topics to offtopic then, because by this yardstick none of them further the development of Star Citizen.

VR Golgot · Feb 3, 2025

Trending...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1iggjw0/this_person_is_having_a_bad_day

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1iggjw0/this_person_is_having_a_bad_day/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ig8ehx/meanwhile_the_chair

Source: https://wew.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ig8ehx/meanwhile_the_chair/

VR Golgot · Feb 3, 2025

CR's epiphany has now resurfaced on the sub.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igk780/chris_roberts_had_an_epiphany_in_2018

Source: https://wwe.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igk780/chris_roberts_had_an_epiphany_in_2018/

And the consensus is: He's full of it

Wotthe Dickens · Feb 3, 2025

How did human evolution get us here? Damn
Ed: hairless apes, mumble mumble, pattern recognition machines on legs, mumble mumble

Cosmo · Feb 3, 2025

Agony_Aunt · Feb 3, 2025

VR Golgot said:
CR's epiphany has now resurfaced on the sub.

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igk780/chris_roberts_had_an_epiphany_in_2018
Source: https://wwe.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igk780/chris_roberts_had_an_epiphany_in_2018/

And the consensus is: He's full of it

I bet the faithful are hitting those downvotes as hard as they can, but upvotes are winning (77%).

Skizomeuh · Feb 3, 2025

VR Golgot said:
Trending...

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1iggjw0/this_person_is_having_a_bad_day
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1iggjw0/this_person_is_having_a_bad_day/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ig8ehx/meanwhile_the_chair
Source: https://wew.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ig8ehx/meanwhile_the_chair/

Hey the issue council ticket was "NPCs stand up on chair", so it's solved.

VR Golgot · Feb 3, 2025

So Heavy_Bob shared the GrieferNET kill stats for ships flown vs account age (Jan 2025).

Ship Name	< 30 Days	1 to 6 Months	6 to 12 Months	1 to 2 Years	2 to 5 Years	5 to 10 Years	10+ Years	Total Kills
Cutlass Black	62	74	52	115	210	138	56	707
Aurora MR	56	38	52	48	102	55	14	365
Avenger Titan	40	82	52	72	168	122	32	568
Constellation Taurus	38	107	52	99	207	159	80	742
Intrepid	36	35	11	34	44	28	14	202
Arrow	31	34	27	54	189	104	44	483
Gladius	28	85	38	98	215	135	63	662
Buccaneer	23	42	25	41	91	92	20	334
C1 Spirit	21	43	23	50	95	87	16	335
Mustang Alpha	17	35	18	41	60	34	3	208
Zeus CL	16	22	21	47	90	68	35	299
Sabre Firebird	15	86	51	88	187	151	65	643
Constellation Andromeda	14	40	17	39	108	81	33	332
Vulture	12	24	21	39	87	60	30	273
Nomad	11	9	11	18	34	28	8	119
Pisces Rescue C8R	10	11	6	20	45	30	21	143
Cutter	9	18	10	36	36	13	14	136
Cutlass Red	8	15	18	15	35	27	10	128
Ares Star Fighter Inferno	7	10	2	11	41	21	8	100
F7C Hornet Mk II	7	18	13	19	42	48	19	166
Freelancer MAX	7	11	9	13	35	29	13	117
F7A Hornet MkII PYAM Exec Stealth	6	12	16	29	66	27	7	163
Guardian QI	6	38	16	44	110	110	62	386
Polaris	6	16	12	17	60	50	25	186
Sabre	6	32	29	50	112	129	42	400
Scorpius Antares	6	1	1	1	8	1	0	18
100i	5	1	6	3	12	2	1	30
F7C-S Hornet MkII	5	22	4	26	61	45	19	182
Hull A	5	3	4	3	5	14	5	39
Sabre Comet	5	28	19	25	55	49	18	199
Starlancer MAX	5	13	13	36	87	59	31	244
Zeus ES	5	4	7	27	62	47	23	175
325a	4	6	3	6	29	23	6	77
Constellation Aquila	4	3	3	3	14	15	5	47
F7A Hornet MkII PYAM Exec Military	4	23	16	16	64	29	10	162
F7C-M Super Hornet	4	11	9	11	63	45	16	159
Guardian	4	10	7	11	46	26	19	123
Hercules C2 Starlifter	4	8	1	9	20	21	7	70
A1 Spirit	3	6	2	6	11	6	0	34
Avenger Stalker	3	3	0	1	3	9	9	28
Carrack	3	2	4	8	22	18	13	70
Cutlass Black PYAM Exec Stealth	3	1	7	9	18	9	5	52
Freelancer	3	1	1	2	7	11	3	28
Gladius Valiant	3	19	4	20	15	22	4	87
Redeemer	3	3	2	5	17	10	9	49
Vanguard Harbinger	3	9	3	14	42	32	17	120
Cutlass Black PYAM Exec Military	2	6	7	7	28	22	5	77
F8C Lightning PYAM Exec Stealth	2	6	2	5	15	5	5	40
Fury	2	1	0	8	11	10	10	42
Gladiator	2	9	5	4	13	14	7	54
Hercules A2 Starlifter	2	5	1	0	7	6	1	22
Hercules M2 Starlifter	2	7	1	4	14	4	3	35
Hurricane	2	2	0	6	10	12	5	37
Mercury Star Runner	2	5	1	5	18	21	11	63
Pisces C8 Tutorial	2	0	0	0	4	0	0	6
Prospector	2	1	1	5	25	21	11	66
Reclaimer	2	6	1	9	15	19	14	66
Scorpius	2	9	2	14	23	15	1	66
Scythe	2	3	0	7	8	6	1	27
Talon	2	0	3	4	14	11	3	37
Terrapin Medic	2	4	3	8	19	19	4	59
125a	1	1	0	1	3	0	2	8
Constellation Phoenix	1	2	1	4	16	9	11	44
Corsair	1	7	18	28	53	48	15	170
Corsair PYAM Exec Military	1	0	3	1	2	1	0	8
Cutlass Blue	1	4	3	13	15	21	9	66
Cutter Scout	1	0	1	6	5	5	1	19
Defender	1	1	0	0	2	5	5	14
Eclipse	1	3	2	6	10	7	3	32
Fortune	1	0	0	1	3	0	1	6
M50	1	1	3	3	11	1	8	28
Mustang Beta	1	0	1	0	3	1	0	6
P-52 Merlin	1	1	2	4	3	1	0	12
Reliant Kore	1	1	3	0	14	4	3	26
Retaliator	1	1	2	0	7	3	1	15
Starfarer	1	1	0	0	1	0	0	3
Syulen	1	3	4	8	11	6	1	34
Talon Shrike	1	0	0	0	5	0	2	8
Vanguard Warden	1	2	1	3	1	9	1	18
135c	0	1	0	0	2	0	0	3
300i	0	0	0	4	2	3	2	11
315p	0	2	1	2	5	8	1	19
350r	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	2
400i	0	2	2	0	14	7	4	29
600i	0	1	3	0	6	5	1	16
85X	0	3	2	1	6	4	1	17
890 Jump	0	0	1	1	8	7	1	18
Ares Star Fighter Ion	0	5	0	1	4	4	4	18
Aurora CL	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
Aurora ES	0	0	0	0	2	3	0	5
Aurora LN	0	0	0	4	3	6	4	17
Aurora LX	0	0	0	0	0	1	2	3
Avenger Renegade	0	0	0	2	2	3	0	7
Avenger Warlock	0	4	1	1	2	10	1	19
Ballista	0	0	1	1	0	1	0	3
Blade	0	4	0	2	7	2	1	16
Carrack Expedition	0	0	2	0	0	2	2	6
Caterpillar	0	3	2	2	4	2	3	16
Caterpillar Pirate	0	1	0	1	2	1	0	5
Centurion	0	1	0	1	0	0	0	2
Constellation Phoenix Emerald	0	0	0	0	2	1	1	4
Cutlass 2949 Best In Show Edition	0	0	0	0	1	10	6	17
Cutlass Steel	0	0	0	0	3	1	1	5
Cutter Rambler	0	5	1	9	14	13	5	47
Cyclone	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
Cyclone-RC	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	2
F7A Hornet	0	0	0	0	0	2	8	10
F7A Hornet MkII	0	9	28	76	229	187	87	616
F7C Hornet	0	3	1	1	6	5	2	18
F7C Hornet Wildfire	0	0	0	1	0	1	0	2
F7C-M Super Hornet Heartseeker	0	0	0	1	3	0	2	6
F7C-R Hornet MkII	0	0	0	1	16	2	1	20
F7C-R Hornet Tracker	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	1
F7C-S Hornet Ghost	0	7	2	5	13	11	9	47
F8C Lightning	0	15	15	52	133	121	46	382
F8C Lightning Executive Edition	0	0	0	0	1	3	5	9
F8C Lightning PYAM Exec Military	0	6	4	4	15	6	0	35
Freelancer DUR	0	0	1	0	0	4	3	8
Freelancer MIS	0	0	0	0	1	1	3	5
Fury MX	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	1
Glaive	0	0	0	1	0	2	2	5
Hammerhead	0	0	0	1	5	7	3	16
Hawk	0	1	0	2	9	14	5	31
Herald	0	2	0	2	2	5	2	13
Hull C	0	3	1	0	5	5	2	16
Khartu-al	0	0	0	0	2	3	0	5
Mantis	0	0	1	7	12	15	8	43
Mule	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	1
Mustang Delta	0	0	1	1	0	1	0	3
Mustang Gamma	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	1
Mustang Omega	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	1
Nova	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
P-72 Archimedes	0	1	0	0	1	0	1	3
Pisces C8	0	0	1	4	5	10	5	25
Pisces Expedition C8X	0	2	0	12	14	9	8	45
Prowler	0	0	0	0	1	1	1	3
Pulse	0	0	1	3	2	5	1	12
Razor	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	1
Razor EX	0	3	4	4	22	18	9	60
Reliant Tana	0	0	0	0	1	4	1	6
Sabre Peregrine	0	0	1	0	3	0	0	4
Sabre Raven	0	0	0	0	7	17	1	25
San'tok.yāi	0	1	4	1	8	4	0	18
Starfarer Gemini	0	0	0	2	0	1	1	4
Syulen PYAM Exec Military	0	2	3	2	4	4	1	16
Terrapin	0	3	0	1	1	0	4	9
Ursa Medivac	0	2	1	0	5	1	1	10
Valkyrie	0	3	5	3	7	6	0	24
Vanguard Hoplite	0	0	4	2	2	1	2	11
Vanguard Sentinel	0	0	0	3	16	6	1	26

There are various difficulties with interpreting the data. (The system doesn't track uniques, so some kills will be duplicates. Players could have ground their way up to ships rather than bought them. Etc).

But one thing that stands out is: The base starter ships really aren't dominating in the first 30 days: Lots of 'punch above' starters instead.

Interesting to note how quickly the F8Cs start to appear after 30 days too.

Only other trend with any weight I noticed was that hardly anyone's flying alien ships. (Or if they are, they're disintegrating before anyone gets a chance to shoot them

)

VR Golgot · Feb 3, 2025

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpn1k/this_series_keeps_feeling_more_and_more_on_the

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpn1k/this_series_keeps_feeling_more_and_more_on_the/

The defence force saw this one off. (And the mods saw off prior versions apparently

)

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfH3flBwfcs

VR Golgot · Feb 3, 2025

Meshopotamia:

Various issues occurring at server boundaries:

Bonus mesh for quantum snares:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpzi3/does_the_snare_work_in_40

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpzi3/does_the_snare_work_in_40/

There are 2 issues currently.
You can only snare ships on the same server. Server to server won't work.
The snare will also randomly stop working, but you won't know. On your end it will be on.

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De-fuelling:

The other day I was running the Save Stanton event and I ran out of fuel between locations because the servers didn’t communicate that I had refueled.

The workaround I found for this was to store my ship after refueling. I never had the issue when doing that but it happened twice if I didn’t store the ship after fueling. The 2nd time it happened, it dropped my fuel to 40% when I crossed a boundary and I was able to reroute to somewhere close and top off. Frustrating bug but it’s definitely an issue with the servers communicating with each other.

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QT drop outs & loadout resets:

Honestly, this guy seems to be fairly confused. But on the other hand, who can blame him

Trying to QT anywhere in my Taurus, it may succeed for a few hundred km but the ship drops out and may or may not go back in without intervention. My Cutty Black behaves normally and if I fit all ballistics to the Taurus it works fine, so this is 100% a canon in-game problem.

A bit more study revealed that switching the weapons off works. Some of the time. Then I noticed that the weapons are switching themselves back on in qt and that is what's dropping me out of warp. Sometimes it refuses to work even with that. So after more frustration I figured out disabling life support and weapons generally fixes the issue. Until the next time I have to qt anywhere and then the whole thing starts again. I have a hotkey to disable weapons quickly but there's no facility to do it for life support so its off into the MFDs for that. Having figured all this out I can fairly reliably solo VHRTs with a LOT of faffing about.

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metatheurgist · Feb 3, 2025

VR Golgot said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ig8ehx/meanwhile_the_chair
Source: https://wew.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ig8ehx/meanwhile_the_chair/

But why is that head so creepily small?

Skizomeuh · Feb 3, 2025

metatheurgist said:
But why is that head so creepily small?

Health imperatives, else the commando on the left would be more seriously injured he already is.

VR Golgot · Feb 3, 2025

This is the most tortured way to say 'Derek Smart was right'

Little did I know that while a certain fellow shouting '90 days tops' would be hilariously wrong, that scam artist who sold early access asset packs to his vaporware mmo on steam might ultimately be right about this scam artist selling vaporware off steam. Knowing what we know now I'd warn everyone away from either one's future lies and scams.

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Generally loving how much CR-seeing is going on under the 'epiphany' post though

Agony_Aunt · Feb 3, 2025

VR Golgot said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpn1k/this_series_keeps_feeling_more_and_more_on_the
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpn1k/this_series_keeps_feeling_more_and_more_on_the/

The defence force saw this one off. (And the mods saw off prior versions apparently )

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfH3flBwfcs

Comment:

Another one from starcitizen_refunds, you lot are starting to panic aren't you, lol.

LOL. Yes, sure, we're really panicking that the "game" is in the worst state its been in in a long time.

Hah, just watched the video - 50% of the game budget... and pre-sales. On the nose.

Oh my, it just gets funnier and funnier.

Viajero · Feb 3, 2025

VR Golgot said:
Meshopotamia:

Various issues occurring at server boundaries:

Bonus mesh for quantum snares:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpzi3/does_the_snare_work_in_40
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1igpzi3/does_the_snare_work_in_40/

De-fuelling:

QT drop outs & loadout resets:

Honestly, this guy seems to be fairly confused. But on the other hand, who can blame him

"~~PES~~ Server meshing is now behind us"

Viajero · Feb 3, 2025

A small bit from Zyloh´s post that has not got much attention yet:

That means dedicating all our resources to improving stability, addressing critical issues, and delivering meaningful quality-of-life updates.

While some may think CIG cancellation of the free fly is good news and "a small step in the right direction", in fact this is the perfect opportunity for CIG to rationalize no meaningful new features or content for the foreseeable.

Players: "But, CIG, you said you would still continue adding more content in the PU and new features in parallel preview channels, in addition to focusing on bug fixing and QoL!"
CIG: "Yeah, sorry no can´t do anymore. Got to dedicate all our resources to improving stability! See you!"

Skizomeuh · Feb 3, 2025

Also players: "but but, you also said SQ42 was the priority!"