Surely, but snowy owls would be better
Hot takes for planet zoo
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That statement was in no way about if bunnys are a "good pick" for the game, eventhough personally theyd be pretty rad, but just about the fact that anectodal evidence might as well be no evidence aslong as their isnt a better source backing it up
Sad hot take that i wish was different:
Im pretty sure the next pack will be a pretty big dissapointment. Everyone counting on the focus being on underrepresented groups is setting themselves up for disapointment
Even if we get the south america revisit that everyone wants i really doubt its gonna be a good pack.
Im pretty sure the next pack will be a pretty big dissapointment. Everyone counting on the focus being on underrepresented groups is setting themselves up for disapointment
Even if we get the south america revisit that everyone wants i really doubt its gonna be a good pack.
If the Bush dog would be added:
My Reaction would be so happy compared to the community...
Frontier SA Pack
- Tufted Capuchin
- White-tailed Deer
- American Flamingo
- Tamandua
- Ocelot
- Guanaco
- Bush Dog/Tayra
I think this is a great template, but I like the idea of certain packs going heavy on some areas. For example, a savannah DLC should be ungulate-heavy, while a jungle DLC would be more monkey/arboreal-heavy, and wetlands bird-heavy, etc. So in the end the different categories would all balance each other out. But unfortunately we don't live in that world.
Well yeah but as you said we don’t have a perfect system like that. Personally I do like the little bit of everything approach, but yeah maybe in a place where Arid gave us ungulates, tropical gave us arboreal mammals, and wetlands gave us birds things might be a bit better.
I’ll say this here as a “hot take” but I want to see the news for the upcoming DLC just to see if I am disappointed with the results. Like I’m 80-90% sure the DLC “won’t go my way” so I mostly just want to see what the potential results are.
Obviously I would love to be mistaken, but man, I really don’t have my hopes up.
Obviously I would love to be mistaken, but man, I really don’t have my hopes up.
I like the idea of balanced packs where it makes sense. I agree with others that certain themes should come with higher concentrations of specific taxa. I think this is the balance I like:
- Classic Carnivora 1-2 (at least one cat/dog/bear is good, but more than 2 gets to be too much)
- Ungulates 0-2 (generally no more than 2 per pack, ideally one or none)
- Monkeys 1-3, or 7 (adding at least one where possible is good but hope for more under appropriate themes, needs a catch-up pack)
- Misc. small mammal 1-2 (at least one musteloid, rodent, marsupial, xenarthran, etc. is good, too high effort for more than 2 usually)
- Birds 1-3, or 7 (needs a catch-up pack, but until then 1-3 per pack is usually good)
- Habitat reptiles 0-1 (want a turtle, don't need much else, can take one of the bird slots occasionally)
Same. Is like i'm just waiting, not expecting. I'm sure it won't be the SA dlc i need and want nor it will feature 4 birds like i would like.
I think people are more lenient towards more penguins and crocodilians because we have such limited selections or habitat birds and reptiles that we are willing to take whatever we can get, they are by no means my priorities within their class but still have some small gaps that they could fill in like a small Antarctic penguin or an African crocodile
This would a genuinely great format, I genuinely hope the next dlc gives us both a bird and a monkey and basically regardless of what they are I will be happy. Although saying that I would totally be happy for some packs quite heavily rated towards birds and monkeys, my ideal Latin America pack would probably contain 3 birds, 3 monkeys and the mara
At this point there aren't very many classic carnivores I think would be valuable editions other than the ABB and a small jungle cat such as the ocelot
Also going to throw out another hot take:
The black headed spider monkey should absolutely be the go to choice of spider monkey and I don't understand why it isn't
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That’s a good way of saying how I feel, I’m not excited or anticipating, I’m just waiting. I agree, if it had to be any pack it would be SA, or atleast a pack with some half decent birds and a NWM.
I’ll admit I am still open to a bunch of pack ideas, but even for the ideas I am open to I can still see Frontier doing it the Frontier way. Like an island pack that’s 5-7/7 mammals, when islands are known for birds. A SA pack that has multiple ungulates and low amounts of birds and monkeys.
Why should the black headed be the go to species?
You can make that argument for a lot of other species though:
- Aptenodytes (emperor penguin)
- Groilla (Eastern gorilla)
- Loxodonta (forest elephant)
- Ailurus (arguably, depending on which species was intended by the devs)
- Hydrochoerus (lesser capybara)
- Camelus (wild Bactrian camel)
- Eudyptula (Australian fairy penguin)
- Struthio (Somali ostrich)
- Probably others that I didn't mention
I assume because unlike the Geoffrey's spider monkey, the black-headed spider monkey actually lives in the Amazon.
Black headed Spider Monkey is distributed on fringe of South American continet. You can even make argument that it's still not Amazon animal. Maybe Red Faced SM could be a better pick, if living in Amazon is an issue.
Red is range or BH Spider Monkey
This is area of Amazon Rainforest from Wikipedia
This is range of RF Spider Monkey.
But however, yes, if people wanted Spider Monkey as specifically SA monkey, then sure they have to ask for different species. I always wanted specifically Geoffroy's, because I wanted Mexican monkey, and I prefer coloration of it. That's why I always hoped we'd get multiple Latin American monkeys, so I can get my Geoffroy's and South America can still get a monkey
Sumatran orang utan is also a big one. That one i actually wouldnt mind seeing how lackluster the current one is
It’s actually found in South America (admittedly not a very extensive range) and it is the most common species in captivity with sizeable distributions across both Europe and NA whilst the Geoffrey’s is almost exclusively found in NA
There's 3 species or orangutan now, so it doesn't work exactly the same way
I personally don't care much for the ABB...I barely use the bears we already have. But ABB does have a huge color morph variation as well as habitat versatility. Think Red Fox with color morphs and Cougar with habitats. So if we are ranking bear species the ABB should be pretty high up the list for a roster slot.
If I had a choice I would have removed Formosan Black Bear, Himalayan Brown Bear and potentially 1 of the other 3 "black" bears we have in game(Sloth, Sun, Spectacled).