Not on twitter and not on every post but i'm one of those horrible persons that want the nile croc pver any other crocodilian lol
DLC 19 Speculation
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I want it too it’s really iconic and a modern massive croc would be dope add on that it’s an African croc too. Either it or the ABB could be our anniversary but I think reptiles are more effort for frontier in the texture department
Plus I’m happy with Americas crocodilians
What we really need is the Insect Animal Pack.
you want diversity and players to learn but then you are against sub-species saying a single leopard would be enough then you are against the coyote one of the most iconic species in north america and important for the ecosystem, honest question what do you want people to learn and what type of animals do you want?
They still haven't revealed JWE3 yet, maybe they're waiting for the cross promotion opportunity:I love how its been only one day and already basically everyone rallied around two animals.
Give us these cuties Frontier
As someone who lives in North America, saying coyotes are "one of the most iconic species" in my continent is rather audacious. There's a very long list of animals I'd much sooner consider to be iconic, coyotes being nowhere near the top.
My point with subspecies is that it's multiple of the same species occupying multiple roster spots. I think that's a waste when those spots could've instead went to a unique species. Imagine if we got black-footed ferrets instead of Amur leopards, for example. Then leopards as a species come on the 5th anniversary. More species get represented, this is something I see as a win-win.
This would be a good starting point
And what would be at the top of that list? The coyote is one of the most known animals in all of North America simply because of its range. Most people know what one is because they've had one in their backyard lol. Its important not just to focus on super iconic zoo animals but also animals that are iconic in the actual world and in general.
But why wouldn't they be able to learn with these animals as opposed to the ones that you want?
As someone who doesnt live in north america the coyote is definitely in or close to the top 10 most internationally iconic animals of the continent.As someone who lives in North America, saying coyotes are "one of the most iconic species" in my continent is rather audacious. There's a very long list of animals I'd much sooner consider to be iconic, coyotes being nowhere near the top.
My point with subspecies is that it's multiple of the same species occupying multiple roster spots. I think that's a waste when those spots could've instead went to a unique species. Imagine if we got black-footed ferrets instead of Amur leopards, for example. Then leopards as a species come on the 5th anniversary. More species get represented, this is something I see as a win-win.
This would be a good starting point
top 10 most internationally iconic north american animals would look something like (obviously this is subjective but most people list would be similar)
- bald eagle
- black bear
- cougar
- bison
- brown bear
- wolf
- elk
- coyote
- bobcat
- beaver
They are present in many indigenous peoples' tales, Looney Tunes, ~100 zoos/wildlife parks, and across the country in the wild. Granted many of us see them as pests, but there were also many NA players who wanted it badly. While it definitely wasn't high on my list, I can't honestly call it a terrible, useless pick.As someone who lives in North America, saying coyotes are "one of the most iconic species" in my continent is rather audacious. There's a very long list of animals I'd much sooner consider to be iconic, coyotes being nowhere near the top.
My point with subspecies is that it's multiple of the same species occupying multiple roster spots. I think that's a waste when those spots could've instead went to a unique species. Imagine if we got black-footed ferrets instead of Amur leopards, for example. Then leopards as a species come on the 5th anniversary. More species get represented, this is something I see as a win-win.
This would be a good starting point
If I were to rank the remaining options for North America (nearctic, non-coastal) based on iconicism:
- S: Bald Eagle, Snowy Owl, Black Bear
- A: Turkey, Bighorn Sheep, White Tailed Deer, Mallard
- B: Coyote, Wapiti, Bobcat, Canada Goose, Musk Ox
- C: Mountain Goat, Porcupine, Opossum, Burrowing Owl
Here's a list of species I think of when I think of North America
- Brown bears*
- Grey wolves*
- Moose*
- American alligators
- California sea lions
- Northern raccoons
- American beavers
- American bison
- White-tailed deer*
- Elk*
- Red foxes*
- Barren ground caribou
- Polar bears*
- Walruses*
- Bobcats
- Greater roadrunners
- Great blue herons*
- Wild turkeys
- Common loons*
- Mallard ducks*
- Canada geese*
- North American porcupines
- Fishers
- Ermines*
- Snowshoe hares
- Rock ptarmigans*
- Harbour seals*
- Belugas*
- Narwhals*
This is entirely subjective because what constitutes "the actual world" isn't universal.
My point is that there's more interest is learning about animals that don't crop up in sub-urbs like coyotes. Ones that more strongly highlight ecosystems as a whole, and not just species that are lucky enough to adapt with human industrialisation. Zoos as conservation facilities should prioritise what's at risk of being lost. Some diversions like petting zoos are fine, and a great gateway to having an interest in animals. But I feel like coyotes just do a poor job at showcasing the wildlife of North America. They're just kinda there, and I never really think of them unless that's the intention.
I personally would swamp white tail and elk around and switch musk ox and opossum around but otherwise this does seem like how the world views north america
For me as someone not from na the animals i first think of are something like:
-bald eagle
-raccoon
-bison
-cougar
-grizzly
Im sorry saying the fisher is iconic but not the coyote is bizarre way more people know of the coyote because of its pressence in pop culture than people who could even tell you what kind of animal the fisher is
One could say...the heavily suggested true finale, farewell safari pack with the secretary bird and Nile croc.
As a North American, I would never consider the ermine, beluga, narwhal, walrus, fisher, or snowshoe hare as iconic animals. Like, heck I'd consider those Arctic animals, but not North America; just generic Arctic animals with no ties to any particular continent
Go ahead. I got the croc/s I wanted (gharial, spectacled caiman, gator)
Nile adds more value than any other croc currently, as it'll be the only African croc in game
White-tailed deer are more widespread locally and extremely famous as game animals. I believe they are also the logo of John Deere tractor, but ...
... Wapiti are so majestic and have such lovely calls that I understand why they are more popular here.
The only reason I would switch them is elk is outside of game hunters when people think american deer they think elk because of the unique interesting call and very classic deer shape white tails just fall under the radar.
We don't know the name yet, this could be the "Western Animal Pack", which might change the outlook on Africa a bit, but at the moment it's looking like that direction.