DLC 19 Speculation

Markiz

Markiz
Speaking about second Armadillo, I wouldn't go crazy over it, but if I got to choose I would go for Big Hairy Armadillo.

It would work like Gibbon or Spectcaled Caiman, where it would phase out all NB Armadillos from my zoos and become default one.

It would also boost Patagonia, which is always nice.

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DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Ok, here's my piece. The 9-banded was actually my favorite and most used animal of the Grasslands pack, more than any of the other ones it came with.
Partly because armadillos are Knights, but also because I see that species in the wild all the time and it's cool to be able to bring a local critter in my creations.

However, while I wouldn't push a 2nd armadillo away, I would rather not have one, especially in this pack. I feel like a 2nd armadillo wouldn't give me much more than what the current one already gives. I guess variety and all that, but to tell y'all the truth, I don't think I've ever seen an armadillo in a zoo except for a tiny little one (forgot the name)
 

The Aardvark

The Aardvark
DarthQuell said:
Ok, here's my piece. The 9-banded was actually my favorite and most used animal of the Grasslands pack, more than any of the other ones it came with.
Partly because armadillos are Knights, but also because I see that species in the wild all the time and it's cool to be able to bring a local critter in my creations.

However, while I wouldn't push a 2nd armadillo away, I would rather not have one, especially in this pack. I feel like a 2nd armadillo wouldn't give me much more than what the current one already gives. I guess variety and all that, but to tell y'all the truth, I don't think I've ever seen an armadillo in a zoo except for a tiny little one (forgot the name)
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I feel like the Nine-banded was the best option they could have gone with.
Yeah, it's not too common in European collections, but it's fairly iconic and it has a LOT of geographic coverage. It's found down south in Brazil all the way up to the States (and its expansion is all but stopping), and it occurs in a variety of dry, tropical and temperate areas.
Plus, they seem to have become slightly more common in Europe over the past few years (well, not by much... We were at 2 holders back in 2022 and now we're at 6 I think)
 

Milurian

Milurian
NegativeHeli said:
Are all of you really sure it's the Saki? Apparently a Reddit post gave pretty good guesses that showed it could possibly be a vulture (unlikely) though, I just want to see what led all of you to believe that it's a Saki Monkey.
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It has a long straight non prehensile tail it is mostly dark with a light face and dark features making most solid colour or mostly dark monkeys unlikely like howlers. Its big and boxy with its shoulder blades at head level which limits a lot of the other smaller monkeys like capuchins or tamarins. It pretty much has to be the white faced saki.
 

Milurian

Milurian
Iben said:
Having played with null exhibits for a long while I can tell you that there's more needed than making them null. It needs a greater rework than that. You can only go so far.

Again, I think it's a brilliant system and a way of working that fits the animals they're trying to represent greatly; but as you mentioned it has so much untapped potential and that's mostly because of how big and clunky they are. I'm sure that if they had to chance to introduce it now, it would be much less so; but alas 😅
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like please how hard would it be to give us a smaller and more realistic box.
Eletan888 said:
I mean honestly it was carnivores before Arid right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think people cared that much about getting them until we got 5 in one pack lol. Which was then followed by hoofstock heavy Eurasia and Barnyard. But weren't people unhappy with all the carnivores? I remember that being a critique of grasslands (honestly one I can get behind).
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People havent really cared about carnivores nearly as much for a couple of reasons.
One is that peoples problem with ungulates isnt the idea of ungulates is that its almost always bovids given how many ungulates we have we have very little diversity
A second problem is that they always choice ungulates with the same body plan medium to large sized ungulates that aside from horn style tend to have pretty similar silhouettes if they consistently included more smaller or differently shaped ungulates people wouldnt care as much.
A third problem is regional diversity we still only have 2 ungulates from south america and they are both domestic camelids we have no classic american or asian deer but what we do have is 3 semi arid african gazelle a ton of other african antilope and 2 african rhinos.

Carnivorans have been physically diverse looking at large climbing cats, seals and small mustelids making the fact that they are all from the same group less obvious. However people do complain they just go further down complaining about bears cats and dogs directly. Bears are the most unwanted carnivoran group right now with cats and dogs being permanently stuck in the public conscious so people both hate and want them.
 

Aramar

Aramar
I spent the day at a zoo and saw two other clones that would fit in an American dlc: Humboldt penguin and South American sea lion.

However, I'm still thinking Frontier is saving the best for the end and the 2 missing animals will be popular choices. Normally they used to reveal the highlights first and then when they showed the clones at the reveal everyone complained, so I think they just inverted it now: start with the clones so that people complain and then show the true stars and everyone will be happy.
 

AlexSea

AlexSea
So, if this is a New World Animal Pack, which I think is very likely, there should be a roughly even split of animals from both continents. So far we have:

North America:
Coyote
Bighorn Sheep

South America:
Greater/Lesser Rhea
White-Faced Saki (probably)

We still don't know what flamingo species we're getting, so it could easily go in one or both categories. I think the American or Chilean Flamingo are the most likely choices here. If I had my way, with what we already know, the continent split would look like this:

North America:
Coyote
Bighorn Sheep
North American Elk

South America:
Greater Rhea
White-Faced Saki
Chilean Flamingo
South American Coati
 

NachoB

NachoB
DarthQuell said:
How would people feel if we got the 3-banded armadillo in a slot? Because it's clear that a carnivoran or an ungulate would break it for most...

Personally, the 2 I'm hoping for (assuming all our predictions are true) would be the Argentine black-and-white tegu and also the Patagonian mara
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If it is a giant armadillo i'll be happy. Three banded not so much. I really just want mara and coati other options (except maybe the howler) would dissapoint me in a way or another. But it would make me mad if it is the white tailed deer or bobcat. I can be ok in the end with guanaco / vicuña, pudu, brazilian tapir... But aren't really what i want now. Tamandua, ocelot, brazilian porcupine, tegu are all fine but again, not my top choices. All of these (minus the north america boredom duo) would be very useful to me though.
 

Moonfox

Moonfox
AlexSea said:
So, if this is a New World Animal Pack, which I think is very likely, there should be a roughly even split of animals from both continents. So far we have:

North America:
Coyote
Bighorn Sheep

South America:
Greater/Lesser Rhea
White-Faced Saki (probably)

We still don't know what flamingo species we're getting, so it could easily go in one or both categories. I think the American or Chilean Flamingo are the most likely choices here. If I had my way, with what we already know, the continent split would look like this:

North America:
Coyote
Bighorn Sheep
North American Elk

South America:
Greater Rhea
White-Faced Saki
Chilean Flamingo
South American Coati
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This is my absolute dream pack! I want to hear elk bugles and coyote yips and watch coatis in my zoo 🥹
 

Birb（｡･ө･｡）

Birb（｡･ө･｡）
Bughs said:
What do you think, could this DLC theme make a wild turkey species to appear?
Like classic wild one, rio grande or ocellated?
It could be on a peacock rig maybe.
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It would easily be the highlight of the pack for me along with the rhea and saki (though albeit still not my most wanted American bird over a spoonbill, ibis, screamer, or waterfowl, which I guess just goes to show how many options there are that are still unique from each other, and Frontier should be giving us more birds in the first place), but unfortunately I don't think it's likely as we've never had more than two birds in a pack before - hell, despite how broad of a group they are, two is an achievement by itself lol
 
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Marvinb

Marvinb
DarthQuell said:
How would people feel if we got the 3-banded armadillo in a slot? Because it's clear that a carnivoran or an ungulate would break it for most...

Personally, the 2 I'm hoping for (assuming all our predictions are true) would be the Argentine black-and-white tegu and also the Patagonian mara
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Might be a hot take, but id really like one of the common armadillo species as the nine banded is more or less abscent in european zoos.
I think three banded might be pushing it size wise as they are in that meerkat/prairie dog size class, which seemingly only gets considered for colonial animals, not soliary ones.
So six banded seems like a more likely option, which id also enjoy.

But, im pretty certain were never gonna see another armadillo as animating all the bands and stuff seems like way to much of a hassle for an animal than few people gonna care much about, especially when we have one already
 
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