DLC 19 Speculation

However, I'm still thinking Frontier is saving the best for the end and the 2 missing animals will be popular choices.
I hooope so. I'm not unhappy with this pack so far, but a lack of a Coati would break it for me. And for the second slot.... another too easy clone would be too much for me. I'd again feel like it would be a drop in money value. So Mara would be awesome.

To be fair, squirrel monkey would make me ecstatic, but that probably would fall under too easy clone. And I don't see two monkeys/primates in one pack.

What can be a "clone" if it comes to me would be another sloth in the WTE.
 
I've encountered bighorn sheep in the wild. Usually, I take a few pictures from a safe distance and move on. One time was a bit different. I was hiking with my family in Glacier National Park. We were hoping to hike up one of the mountains, but the end of the trail was covered in snow. Several groups of other hikers were resting on some rocks near the snow. We noticed a bighorn sheep browsing about 30-50 meters away and decided to eat our packed lunches on a large, flat rock where we could watch it. I grabbed my SunChips first for some salt and opened the bag with an audible crinkle. Before I'd even stuck my hand into the bag, four different rodents, including a pika and at least one species of ground squirrel, practically materialized on the edge of the rock. They stared longingly at my bag but did not approach further. I don't mind sharing my snacks, but I ignored them because I didn't want to hurt the animals or get in trouble with the park. Then, the wind changed direction, blowing the sweet and salty smell of toasted and fried grains towards the sheep. He turned towards the smell, sniffed twice, and looked at me. I yelled at him to go away and told him he couldn't have my chips. He turned away, but the progress of his browsing started shifting more in our general direction until he was just over 10 m away. I yelled at him a few more times when he kept glancing at me, but I knew it was time to leave. We walked away to look at the closed part of the trail, and I tried to eat again, but suddenly, his head was poking out of the brush on the path in front of me. He did not charge but simply sniffed in my direction and licked his lips plaintively. I turned around and walked back towards the crowds, hoping to deter him, but he followed me right through the crowds, scattering them with laughter and phones abandoned on tripods. At that point, I gave up trying to eat and escaped further down the mountain, where I was able to eat my peanut butter and jelly in peace. Honestly, I think he could have knocked me down or threatened me to steal my food, but he seemed very respectful about 'asking' even if he did ask too many times. I hope he got enough food later.

I know it's one of the least-liked picks, but I'm pretty happy we're getting bighorn in the game. I can imagine fun habitats for them in warmer climates than Glacier.
 
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I hooope so. I'm not unhappy with this pack so far, but a lack of a Coati would break it for me. And for the second slot.... another too easy clone would be too much for me. I'd again feel like it would be a drop in money value. So Mara would be awesome.

To be fair, squirrel monkey would make me ecstatic, but that probably would fall under too easy clone. And I don't see two monkeys/primates in one pack.

What can be a "clone" if it comes to me would be another sloth in the WTE.
Yeah same feeling. I think i have said this before but at the moment it really is a schrödingers pack for me. And the 2 missing ones really have the potential to tip the pack in one direction, for better or worse.
So far it has one animal im really excited about, 2 i will get use of but are really bland imo, and two i will most likely never find use for.
So the 2 missing ones really are the deceiding factor here. If they are two bangers like coati, mara, another monkey or a new bird, the pack could maybe shoot up to be a top 3 animal pack. If they are two more duds, like bear or bobcat the pack is gonna drop down to the bottom.
 
Knowing they still have to reveal the guanaco and the bobcat 😂
The face of this guy seeing we speculate that the final animals are the mara and coati, knowing down well that the remaining animals are the blacktail deer and the kodiak bear:
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I've encountered bighorn sheep in the wild. Usually, I take a few pictures from a safe distance and move on. One time was a bit different. I was hiking with my family in Glacier National Park. We were hoping to hike up one of the mountains, but the end of the trail was covered in snow. Several groups of other hikers were resting on some rocks near the snow. We noticed a bighorn sheep browsing about 30-50 meters away and decided to eat our packed lunches on a large, flat rock where we could watch it. I grabbed my SunChips first for some salt and opened the bag with an audible crinkle. Before I'd even stuck my hand into the bag, four different rodents, including a pika and at least one species of ground squirrel, practically materialized on the edge of the rock. They stared longingly at my bag but did not approach further. I don't mind sharing my snacks, but I ignored them because I didn't want to hurt the animals or get in trouble with the park. Then, the wind changed direction, blowing the sweet and salty smell of toasted and fried grains towards the sheep. He turned towards the smell, sniffed twice, and looked at me. I yelled at him to go away and told him he couldn't have my chips. He turned away, but the progress of his browsing started shifting more in our general direction until he was just over 10 m away. I yelled at him a few more times when he kept glancing at me, but I knew it was time to leave. We walked away to look at the closed part of the trail, and I tried to eat again, but suddenly, his head was poking out of the brush on the path in front of me. He did not charge but simply sniffed in my direction and licked his lips plaintively. I turned around and walked back towards the crowds, hoping to deter him, but he followed me right through the crowds, scattering them with laughter and phones abandoned on tripods. At that point, I gave up trying to eat and escaped further down the mountain, where I was able to eat my peanut butter and jelly in peace. Honestly, I think he could have knocked me down or threatened me to steal my food, but he seemed very respectful about 'asking' even if he did ask too many times. I hope he got enough food later.

I know it's one of the least-liked picks, but I'm pretty happy we're getting bighorn in the game. I can imagine fun habitats for them in warmer climates than Glacier.
That sounds epic, Suzie. I'm in the same boat: several animals I've seen, no pictures🥲

I have a nice experience with a coyote. So, up the country, I have a 4-wheeler to help go around the property, to go through the swamps and haul logs and the like. Plus, it's fun to drive.
Anyways, I had to take some trash up to the trash cans, but it's a long walk to take the trash bags to the cans; like a mile or 2 of walking, plus it's woods, so anything could be on there (animals, but also weirdos who trespass). So, I hop on my handy dandy bike, carry the bags, and drive along the dirt road to the front of the property. As I'm going, there's a bend in the road, and when I turn I see this dog-like animal walk onto the road, stop, look at me, then turn around and go back in. It was a distance away so I assumed it was a dog that got out. I drive up that way (since I'm going that way anyways), and I look to where the animal went back in, and on a log, like a beautiful rustic painting, this coyote standing on it. Now, this guy was only 20 feet away (that's what, about 6 or 7 meters). He wasn't far at all. We just stated at each other for a good 15 seconds. Then he hopped down and trotted into the forest...

Beautiful animals, this story makes me happy we're getting the coyote, when I was only met about them 2 days ago🤣
 
Yeah same feeling. I think i have said this before but at the moment it really is a schrödingers pack for me. And the 2 missing ones really have the potential to tip the pack in one direction, for better or worse.
So far it has one animal im really excited about, 2 i will get use of but are really bland imo, and two i will most likely never find use for.
So the 2 missing ones really are the deceiding factor here. If they are two bangers like coati, mara, another monkey or a new bird, the pack could maybe shoot up to be a top 3 animal pack. If they are two more duds, like bear or bobcat the pack is gonna drop down to the bottom.
Bobcat would be the worst for me personally. I understand americans who want to build their home zoos with it, but from an european point of view... ah gawd. Same with another Armadillo, to be quite honest.
I dould live with a Black Bear, but if we ever get another bear, I still want a Eurasian Brown Bear. The grizzly model is dated and not a good replacement, same for the Himalayan Brown Bear.
 
What surprise picks do you think are most and least likely for the final two spots...

assuming we are right about the first five, and if it doesn't go to the coati / ocelot / mara / tamandua / ABB / another monkey favoured predictions, and not another bird.

Also what would be your peak and pit of the following options?

Jagarundi
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Viscacha
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Desert Cottontail
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Wild Guinea Pig

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American Porcupine
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Marsh Deer
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Agouti / Paca / Borugo
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Kinkajou
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Arrau Turtle
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WE: Pygmy Marmosets

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For me -

Most likely of these: I think the American porcupine is not a bad bet, or the marsh deer for ease of implementation.

Least likely: Pygmy marmosets. The animations needed for them wouldn't be worth it for their tiny size.

Peak: Kinkajou or Viscacha for an unusual and enigmatic pick.

Pit: Wild guinea pig. I'd prefer the cottontail if we're leaning towards domestics. I wouldn't hate it but it would suck if it took a coati spot.

Of these, I'd most like the Kinkajou, Agouti, or Vischacha, although I was today years old when I heard of the Vischacha so had to look up what they are, but they are adorable.


Meh bobcat looks just like the lynx. Not even that insteresting as a clone. Ocelot is much more interesting and has a much larger range. So if not the mara then let it be the ocelot, but not the bobcat. Along with the coyote is probably one of the most boring picks possible. Does it fit the theme and feel of the pack? Sure, but there are far better options.

Ok scracth that about the bobcat being the most boring pick possible. We have a winner right here.
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They look different enough to me: Canadian Lynx vs American Bobcat vs Eurasian Lynx


This is the part of the conversation that gets me nervous. Everyone mentioning all of my "nightmare scenario" animals as exciting choices lol bobcat, white tailed deer, american black bear, kinkajou lol

The day before the livestream there was some talk about coyotes and then BOoM. So all this talk about the bobcat and white tailed deers is scaring me lol
I get the others being cloney, but why is the kinkajou a nightmare animal to you? It's very different looking from any other animals in game.

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Of these, I'd most like the Kinkajou, Agouti, or Vischacha, although I was today years old when I heard of the Vischacha so had to look up what they are, but they are adorable.



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They look different enough to me: Canadian Lynx vs American Bobcat.



I get the others being cloney, but why is the kinkajou a nightmare animal to you? It's very different looking from any other animals in game.

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I was talking about the eurasian lynx and the bobcat. Canadian lynx i actually really like, just not right now.

About the kinkajou: as an oddball in a pack that also has the mara and the coati in it i would be ok with it but as a replacement of either i hate it. Is neither as common nor useful as those two and there are far more important southamerican species that could go in it's place, even among clones.
 
Just edited my post above and added the Eurasian Lynx comparison with the Bobcat. They do look kind of similiar to each other but the Eurasian Lynx still has much more prominent ear-tuft compared to the Bobcat and also much more prominent cheek-fur. Here's 2 more comparison pics as well.

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American Bobcat vs Eurasian Lynx
 
A few things to interpret on this incoming dlc
Zoo keepers dlc we easily identified 3 whereas the remainders were completely random due to the themeless theme. This time we got 2 and hints at 3 which we figured out pretty quickly and we figure it’s new world theme: therefore we figure the remaining 2 can be anything from NA CA SA that are highly requested.
Saki monkeys are animals I completely forgot about, regardless I am greatful we are finally getting a new world monkey after all this time. Every now and then frontier has decided to give us some oddballs instead of the the animals we been begging for.
The flags we sow that gave us the hints of the other animals suggest “spot 8” will yet again be used for Scenary/builds. I’m not against it but a bit disgruntled that it is a suggestion that we are done with exhibits and WTE (what a wasted potential).
 
I hooope so. I'm not unhappy with this pack so far, but a lack of a Coati would break it for me. And for the second slot.... another too easy clone would be too much for me. I'd again feel like it would be a drop in money value. So Mara would be awesome.

To be fair, squirrel monkey would make me ecstatic, but that probably would fall under too easy clone. And I don't see two monkeys/primates in one pack.

What can be a "clone" if it comes to me would be another sloth in the WTE.
Agreed! As much as I love the confirmed animals, none of them needed majorly new models or animations. Hopefully both of the unrevealed species got the workload of a unique model and new animations.
 
Yeah, I'd say if that flag doesn't look like Saki, then it doesn't look like monkey at all. I think people that "saw" Owls and Vultures are closer than Howlers and Tamarins.

I understand people wanted different SA monkey (so did I) but this is Saki
I thought Andean Condor, to be honest. Sitting in a tree, big ring around its neck.
 
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