DLC 19 Speculation

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Less grainy image shows that is is probably the banners again definitely not an animal anyways
Looks like the box enrichment
I would be super happy with Vicuña but hope for at least one animal from the top of the random goat’s list.

How could you be so negative for a beautiful animal like this?

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The thing is I don't hate the vicuña or guanaco, but they are such a wasted slot, we already have have 4 camelids in game, and in terms of ungulates alone the SA tapir (which could introduce tapir deep diving) or Pudu would be much more interesting.
 
Gosh a lot of people are very certain about things, I'm not even 100% sure the sun will rise tomorrow
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I am saying definitively that vultures are explicitly, 100% out of the question.

This pack seems to have a secondary desert focus on top of a broader Americas focus, much like Eurasia had a temperate/highlands focus.
I also think it’s just not worth getting in the bird delusion again. I hate watching people get hope over this stuff, especially if (as usual) it’s nothing from Frontier directly.
 
This pack seems to have a secondary desert focus on top of a broader Americas focus, much like Eurasia had a temperate/highlands focus.
Or how Zookeeper initially seemed to be very heavily focused on mountains or highlands judging by the key art...
The cold blue colour, the huge rock formation, the three animals shown all being found at higher altitudes
 
Even if that isn't a saki, there's absolutely now way we are getting a flying bird. I bet my entire savings account on it lol. If flying birds were coming, we would have gotten them years ago.

Also, I really think that in Frontier's mind, Arid=Desert and Tropical=Rainforest. I really doubt we'll get pack's featuring these biomes again.
 
Here is my conspiracy theory instead:
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Notice how the string doesn't align perfectly between the flamingo and saki.
Notice how there seems to be a pattern here: saki, flamingo, bighorn, rhea, saki, flamingo, and repeat.

What if the 6 individual banners are actually just one big piece, and there's another similar piece showing four more animals?
This brings up a separate question. How much of these key arts is done in game?
 
Here is my conspiracy theory instead:
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Notice how the string doesn't align perfectly between the flamingo and saki.
Notice how there seems to be a pattern here: saki, flamingo, bighorn, rhea, saki, flamingo, and repeat.

What if the 6 individual banners are actually just one big piece, and there's another similar piece showing four more animals?
I mean if we are getting 8 animals again I can see this happening. I doubt we are getting anything above the usual 8 unless we are getting multiple exhibit animals again.
 
Okay… apologies in advance for the long-as-heck rant, but this whole vulture/saki debate struck a chord with me.

I don't take any pleasure from saying this, I really don't, but I feel like everyone who's rallying behind us getting a vulture in this DLC is being willfully ignorant. There are way too many points against it being a vulture. Let's look at what either animal has going for and against it;

Vulture
The only vulture that has a white "ruff" prominent enough to match the cutout's shape is the Andean condor; I'm sticking my neck out there to say that, I’m confident enough in my vulture knowledge to say it. If it's somehow a vulture, it is almost certainly an Andean condor, and these points are based on the assumption that that's indeed what we're looking at.

Pros:
  • The inclusion of the mute swan means we can’t completely discount flying birds as habitat animals.
  • The Andean condor would make about as much sense in a desert-themed pack as a monkey such as the saki.
  • Andean condors have compelling conservation value.
Cons:
  • As people have mentioned before, it would make very little sense to include a non-waterfowl flying bird with no fanfare this late in the game’s lifespan.
  • While Andean condors do occur in deserts, I would almost certainly associate them more with the Andes mountains. If they wanted to include a desert-dwelling vulture from the Americas, I feel like the turkey vulture or black vulture would be a more rational choice.
  • If a flying bird were to be randomly and unceremoniously added to the game, I doubt it would be a vulture. Vultures don’t have the best reputation amongst the general public, and that’s putting it lightly…
  • Why would they add a flying bird when there are so many highly-requested ground-dwelling birds they could add instead?
  • If that papel picado is depicting a vulture, it would have to be a fairly stylized one, whereas all the other cutouts (bighorn, rhea, flamingo) are pretty frank, realistic silhouettes. Also, the shape language doesn’t communicate “vulture” very well. Why wouldn’t it have its neck sticking out, or its wings spread out? If it is indeed an Andean condor, wouldn’t they want to show off the male’s fleshy caruncle, arguably its most distinctive feature?
  • This pack already has two confirmed birds; a rhea and a flamingo. Getting three birds in one pack is a stretch. We’re all adults here, we can admit that.
White-faced Saki
Pros
  • New World monkeys are perhaps the single most highly requested animal type here on the forums. Frontier can only ignore that for so long.
  • White-faced sakis are common in captivity, certainly moreso than condors... or even most vultures, I’d wager.
  • The saki would be far more easy to add than a vulture; they could feasibly modify their existing monkey rig into something that works for it. The vulture definitely couldn’t be slapped onto an existing rig and look decent.
  • The cutout art matches the silhouette of a saki perched on a branch well, and, unlike a vulture, it makes sense for it to be depicted facing forwards, since their white face is their most defining characteristic. It’s quite literally in the name. Plus, the shape of the face-blob in the cutout matches the shape of the saki’s face almost perfectly (It’s admittedly hard to tell from such a small artwork, and the fact that most of the pics folks have uploaded are super blurry doesn’t help, but rest assured, looking at it up close, it’s gotta be the saki’s face).
Cons
  • Again, if this is a desert-themed pack, a monkey is a weird pick, but we don’t have any confirmation that that’s the theme. The scenery and color palette of the preview image certainly make it look like a desert pack, but who knows.
  • …yeah, I’m not gonna lie, the saki doesn’t have much else going against it. It’s just way more plausible than a vulture, sorry.
And, if you’ll forgive a little appeal to emotion here… I want it to be a vulture so, so badly. I haven’t mentioned it here before (because I try to avoid talking about really hypothetical stuff like flying birds), but vultures are my favorite animals of all time. I adore them, and they’re the main reason I’d prefer aviaries over aquariums in a Planet Zoo 2. However… I just don’t see it. Like I said, I take NO pleasure in saying any of this… but I cannot see any world where a vulture is a part of this upcoming DLC.
 
Multiple dart frogs and make them mixable pls
I'm still gonna be delusional and hope for macaws as exhibit animals lmao

I know the chances of this happening are pretty much non-existent, but still. It would make sense as an inclusion, and this would be the perfect pack. If it's gonna happen (it's not), I'll be happy; if it's not gonna happen... Oh well, I knew it was impossible
 
Looks like the box enrichment

The thing is I don't hate the vicuña or guanaco, but they are such a wasted slot, we already have have 4 camelids in game, and in terms of ungulates alone the SA tapir (which could introduce tapir deep diving) or Pudu would be much more interesting.
I understand and respect your opinion. For me Coyote, Bighorn sheep and another flamingo are all absolute waisted slots 🤷🏽‍♂️
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